Dear All, Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email and the MP3 recording below for the Next-Gen RDS PDP Working group call held on Tuesday, 31 May 2016 at 16:00 UTC. MP3: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-nextgen-rds-31may16-en.mp3 The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#nov> ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives:http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-wg/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/0xOOAw Thank you. Kind regards, Michelle DeSmyter ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for Tuesday, 31 May 2016 Michelle DeSmyter:Dear all, welcome to the Next-Gen RDS PDP WG Meeting on 31 May 2016 16:00 UTC Michelle DeSmyter:member page/SOI: https://community.icann.org/x/I4xlAw Michelle DeSmyter:agenda page: https://community.icann.org/x/0xOOAw Michelle DeSmyter:If you do wish to speak during the call, please either dial into the audio bridge and give the operator the password RDS, OR click on the telephone icon at the top of the AC room to activate your AC mics. Please remember to mute your phone and mics when not talking. Susan Kawaguchi:Hello All Daniel K. Nanghaka:Hello Fabricio Vayra:Hi! Richard Padilla:Hi Vlad Dinculescu:Hi All Greg Shatan:Hello, all! Maryan Rizinski:Hello everyone! Lisa Phifer:Hello all, Chuck will be joining us shortly to start the call Chuck Gomes:I will dial in instead of using Connect Me Jim Galvin (Afilias):Hi - is there any audio? Trying to decide if my audio is working.... Chris Pelling:afternoon all Sam Lanfranco:okay Richard Padilla:yes VAIBHAV AGGARWAL:Hey Guys !!! Jim Galvin (Afilias):Not hearing anything.... Chris Pelling:I can hear audio Roger Carney:I can hear as well Chris Pelling:Michele just said Hi Chris Pelling:Michelle * Jim Galvin (Afilias):Sigh.... Holly Raiche:@Jim - everyone is just being polite andrew sullivan:I can now hear Chuck too. Farell FOLLY:Good afternoon everyone Jim Galvin (Afilias):Gave up on AdobeConnect audio - on the phone now too... Ayden Férdeline:hi all Ankur Raheja:Hello All Benny Samuelsen / Nordreg AB:please enable scroll on document Ayden Férdeline 2:Hi. Just a quick question, if a document does not specifically reference the RDS, how should we capture it? Should we reasonably extend these so to be relevant for the RDS, or should we only capture the general principles raised in the source document? Thanks Greg Shatan:muted Kathy Kleiman:requirements or possible requirements? Lisa Phifer:possible requirements Ayden Férdeline 2:thanks Lisa Chris Pelling::p Holly Raiche:Good question Kathy David Cake:Yes. Good point Kathy. Kathy Kleiman:To reflect for future chat readers: "actual requirements" today for Whois may be "possible requirements" for tomorrow's RDS Lisa Phifer:docs that seem to be gaps becuase they were identified as significant: Lisa Phifer:SAC051 Lisa Phifer:A29 WP on procs for handling conflicts with law Lisa Phifer:A29 WP 203 3/2013 Lisa Phifer:A29 WP 217 4/2014 Lisa Phifer:Final EU 2016/679 of EU Parliament (new DP reg) Lisa Phifer:EU DP directive (1995) Richard Padilla:@lisa I will pick up A29 WP 203 3/2013 Kathy Kleiman:I'll be happy to take A29WP 203 3/2013 - which is realted to what I am currently working on. Lisa Phifer:Greenleaf book/article Holly Raiche:And the other point (arising from SAC 54 - is to look beyond the RAA so see what else may be 'required' or a least 'collected' Fabricio Vayra:I'll take A29 WP on procs for handling conflicts with law Richard Padilla:ok will take the A29 WP 217 4/2014 instead Ankur Raheja:@lisa My first document is complete. Please sign me up for WHOIS New gTLD URS Policy and Rules for URS Policy. Thanks VAIBHAV AGGARWAL:Can V Send an Email with just the List so that selection vS Interest is a concious decision andrew sullivan:Note that we could specify mandatory fields and also ones that registries _may_ provide if they wish andrew sullivan:a nice thing about any modern protocol for this sort of service is the tolerance for unknown fields Ayden Férdeline 2:@Vaibhav Just to clarify - are you asking that we send a message to the list before we allocate these documents? VAIBHAV AGGARWAL:Yes Please VAIBHAV AGGARWAL:Self Consultation is a welcomed idea Ayden Férdeline 2:We have had these documents circulating on the list for the past two weeks already... if people want to volunteer to take them now, I think that's great... Holly Raiche:@ Andrew - true - and I don't think we can go beyond what people MUST do - but the data collected may still be covered by various data protection regimes Kathy Kleiman:I think you may have volunteers for almost all the 8 now Lisa Phifer:I think still missing EU DP directives (old and new), Greenleaf book/article, SAC051 Jim Galvin (Afilias):I'll do SAC051 Greg Shatan:I can do EU DP Reg 2016 Ayden Férdeline 2:7 June seems reasonable to me Farell FOLLY:ok for me Holly Raiche:I can do SAC 054 earlier than that. Farell FOLLY:ok Holly Raiche:Do we need the Greenleaf book within a week.? IIsn't the context for the book looking at various data protection laws globally? Lisa Phifer:@Holly, Greenleaf book or article about trends - not sure what needs to be extracted, perhaps someone from the privacy subteam can weigh in Greg Shatan:We now have 3 Gregs in this group. There oughta be a law.... Kathy Kleiman:@Greg - try being a Kathy :-) Rod Rasmussen:Greg is in transit (air) at the moment. Holly Raiche:@ Lisa - what specifically do we need from the Greenleaf publication? He is often at the UNSW lawfaculty and I can have a chat with him for information if that helps Holly Raiche:I'll have a chat with them Sana:I'll do 95 directive Kathy Kleiman:Tx Chuck VAIBHAV AGGARWAL:@Kathy Excellent Q & @Chuk "Applause" Kathy Kleiman:Can we get control back to the document on the screen? Kathy Kleiman:Tx you! Ayden Férdeline 2:@Holly - Greanleaf in his (lengthy) book talks about privacy laws in Asia. He begins by mentioning how in Europe there are binding treaties on data protection and supranational courts which can make binding decisions on privacy and data protection. Then he pivots to Asia where he says there are no equivalent international agreements or empowered deliberative bodies. So the European approach to privacy and data protection is very much top-down, whereas in Asia it is bottom up, with national laws the starting point. The other issue he raises is that not all countries in Asia have strong democratic institutions. It's an interesting book but very, very lengthy... if you are going to meet with him it might be helpful to ask if he knows anything specifically about WHOIS, as his book (to me) was more about how to evaluate/compare privacy laws Holly Raiche:I have already bashed his ears about the Whoisissues - but will have another chat on these issues Ankur Raheja:Thanks Chris Pelling:Thanks all :) Fabricio Vayra:thanks, Chuck! Richard Padilla:Ok folks later Sara Bockey:thank you all Ayden Férdeline 2:thanks to all Vlad Dinculescu:Thanks All Maryan Rizinski:Thanks everyone, bye Kiran:Thanks andrew sullivan:bye! Edmon:bye Greg Shatan:Bye all!