No cut off on documents but let's identify the new elements that new documents add. Chuck From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Volker Greimann Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 8:46 AM To: gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] The overflowing list (was Re: A new and rather important document with respect to jurisdiction issues) I think we all agreed earlier that there would not be a cut-off line for new documents. Especially with a long PDP such as this one, we can expect things in the real world to change, and we should take note of such changes in our work to ensure we remain current. Best, Volker Am 15.07.2016 um 14:42 schrieb h.raiche@internode.on.net<mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net>: A really big plus one for Andrew. I share concerns wth those who question whether the place to start is with uses. It implicitly assumes that all of the current 'uses' of the information should continue. General data protection law strongly suggests otherwise. However, we are starting with uses - and as long as everyone realises that the current uses of the data will not be permitted under data protection law, then let's proceed. And yes, we will come down to Andrew's fundamental question - what personal information that is collection should be accessible to all - OR NOT. And, in the end, I am not sure how much more information we need. From my perspective, I know I will not have time to read all of what is on the list already, let alone new stuff. So maybe let's focus on the information identified in public comment as the critical information for this issue and start talking about uses - what of the uses should be maintained, and what - for strong data protection reasons - should not. Holly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Sullivan" <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com><mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> To: <gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org><mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org> Cc: Sent: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 08:10:25 -0400 Subject: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] The overflowing list (was Re: A new and rather important document with respect to jurisdiction issues) On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 11:32:13PM -0400, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
May I suggest that we add it to our already overflowing list of important documents?
I don't object, but I'm wondering whether there is really anything new in most of the additional documents people are bringing. It seems to me that we have a fundamental question we're going to have to answer. I know that we've decided that now is not the time for deliberation, so I don't encourage discussion about this question. But I'm decreasingly convinced that more material is going to help us come to any decision about balancing the desire of some, on one side, to have a lot of personally identifying information about domain name registrants; and the desire of others to ensure that such personally identifying information is protected on privacy grounds. We can probably continue to find additional examples of people insisting they need one or the other of these, but I do not really see any way that more evidence that someone really really wants one of them (with all the attendant arguments rehearsed) is going to help us come to a conclusion. Best regards, A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com<mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> _______________________________________________ gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg _______________________________________________ gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg -- Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung. Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Volker A. Greimann - Rechtsabteilung - Key-Systems GmbH Im Oberen Werk 1 66386 St. Ingbert Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901 Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851 Email: vgreimann@key-systems.net<mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net> Web: www.key-systems.net<http://www.key-systems.net> / www.RRPproxy.net<http://www.RRPproxy.net> www.domaindiscount24.com<http://www.domaindiscount24.com> / www.BrandShelter.com<http://www.BrandShelter.com> Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook: www.facebook.com/KeySystems<http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems> www.twitter.com/key_systems<http://www.twitter.com/key_systems> Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534 Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP www.keydrive.lu<http://www.keydrive.lu> Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen. -------------------------------------------- Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. Best regards, Volker A. Greimann - legal department - Key-Systems GmbH Im Oberen Werk 1 66386 St. Ingbert Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901 Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851 Email: vgreimann@key-systems.net<mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net> Web: www.key-systems.net<http://www.key-systems.net> / www.RRPproxy.net<http://www.RRPproxy.net> www.domaindiscount24.com<http://www.domaindiscount24.com> / www.BrandShelter.com<http://www.BrandShelter.com> Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on Facebook and stay updated: www.facebook.com/KeySystems<http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems> www.twitter.com/key_systems<http://www.twitter.com/key_systems> CEO: Alexander Siffrin Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534 Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP www.keydrive.lu<http://www.keydrive.lu> This e-mail and its attachments is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. Furthermore it is not permitted to publish any content of this email. You must not use, disclose, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, kindly notify the author by replying to this e-mail or contacting us by telephone.