As you noted, I was concerned about the use of the term ‘rules’. As you know ICANN does not establish rules for the DNS; the IETF approves the technical standards for the DNS. I just wanted to make sure that everyone understands that. Chuck From: isolatedn@gmail.com [mailto:isolatedn@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Sivasubramanian M Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 10:34 AM To: Gomes, Chuck Cc: benny@nordreg.se; gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] OT Re: An important technical consideration about nature of the service (was Re: The overflowing list ) Dear Chuck, ICANN Coordinates the allocation of Names and Numbers, by policies and programs. "Rule" may be a strong word here, slipped in from the question that I was answering, it is coordination, and the coordination happens by agreements. If it coordinates the allocation, it ought to consider itself responsible for all aspects concerning how fairly these resources are allocated, and ICANN especially ought to pay attention to the aspects related to DNS data. By your question, "what rules does ICANN make about DNS", are you implying that DNS is free for all, in a commercial sense? Sivasubramanian M On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 7:52 PM, Gomes, Chuck <cgomes@verisign.com<mailto:cgomes@verisign.com>> wrote: What rules does ICANN make about DNS? Chuck From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org>] On Behalf Of Sivasubramanian M Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 10:13 AM To: benny@nordreg.se<mailto:benny@nordreg.se> Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] OT Re: An important technical consideration about nature of the service (was Re: The overflowing list ) On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 9:39 PM, benny@nordreg.se<mailto:benny@nordreg.se> <benny@nordreg.se<mailto:benny@nordreg.se>> wrote: Inline comments -- Med vänliga hälsningar / Kind Regards / Med vennlig hilsen Benny Samuelsen Registry Manager - Domainexpert Nordreg AB - ICANN accredited registrar IANA-ID: 638 Phone: +46.42197080<tel:%2B46.42197080> Direct: +47.32260201<tel:%2B47.32260201> Mobile: +47.40410200<tel:%2B47.40410200> From: <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Sivasubramanian M <6.Internet@gmail.com<mailto:6.Internet@gmail.com>> Date: Friday 22 July 2016 at 15:19 To: Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com<mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com>> Cc: "gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org>" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] OT Re: An important technical consideration about nature of the service (was Re: The overflowing list ) Dear Andrew, On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 6:09 PM, Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com<mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com>> wrote: On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 06:02:26PM +0530, Sivasubramanian M wrote:
That would be a problem for me as a Registrant from another country, if my country were to provide stronger safeguards against the release of my data to LEA.
So don't do business with an Irish company? As a Registrant, I don't make the choice to do business with the Irish Company, but the Registrar who registered my domain name or the Registry that operates that domain name at the Top Level makes that decision. That is so wrong in all aspects You as registrant choose registrar and compliant to accept conditions wherein there are referred to jurisdiction of the registrar Policies to make every company providing anything anywhere do exactly the same thing? Why not? The obvious answer, ICANN does not make the rules in every country… Please spare us from wasting time on such nonsense as this… Are you saying that this discussion on use of Registrant data is "wasting time" and "such nonesense" as an individual participant, or saying this as Nordreg.se or as a stakeholder group member ? And, ICANN can not make rules in every country, but ICANN can make rules about DNS, it can encourage good practices concerning DNS data. On your earlier comment that "this is so wrong", the point is not about a Registrant choosing a Registrar, but that the choice of the Registrar does not alone guarantee the data rights of the Registrant. Sivasubramanian M Sivasubramanian M A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com<mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> _______________________________________________ gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg