Its a comment so take it as it is please. - Please do some of us a favor : I wanna know : * demonstrate your learned self and share your interpretation of the document so that I can get corrected. I am happy to learn as it is a continuous process; * Also, plz. share the more details on "multiple Registrar & LEA meetings where some of their wants (most of which they never expected to get and many of which they couldn't provide any reason for asking for)" * OR share a document clearly stating the Registrar / Registry / LEA expectations / wants /dezires and or wants; My comment w.r.t. Tax-Savings will definitely not go down well with a lot of people here but since we are a matured group I expect all to take it NOT with a pinch of salt and work constructively to achieve a good whois structure. AND MY comment on tax is coming from a few members saying the ³The GAC does not want us to earn² and Privacy being paramount-More than Security from Terror - Cyber Terror. And Some then seconded it. Also, I am a law abiding citizen, if you as a register or a registry is ready to take responsibility for data security, I am happy to share my photo id to do business with you. Not a worry. If I want to be shady, I will find ways and means, or (If you know about Law in the US) - I would plead the 5th :-) Do I need say more or I rest my case. Gentlemen - Its a discussion, its not abut defending our territories. On 7/14/16, 2:05 PM, "Rob Golding" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org on behalf of rob.golding@astutium.com> wrote:
On 2016-07-14 08:58, Catalyst-Vaibhav Aggarwal wrote:
So now v agree to say that GAC / Law enforcement is over reaching and suggestions, pants made are baseless and have no argument.
You appear to turn many ideas / comments you don't understand into some sort of personal attack.
Perhaps if you had * read the document * understood the document * attended any of the multiple Registrar&LEA meetings where some of their wants (most of which they never expected to get and many of which they couldn't provide any reason for asking for) you wouldn't be jumping so quickly to these weird conclusions.
YET we come back to the table and talk of Privacy and other related factors. How can it be ?
One (of many) examples ..
LEAs wanted the personal details, home address etc of senior STAFF of a Registrar listed on a website.
Not simply provided (as is law in most locales) to the company regulating authority in that region - most of whom DO NOT make that information public without a warrant for very valid reasons
Not even just submitted to ICANN (as indeed much information about the management of a registrar already is) for them to know / leak
But published for anyone and everyone on the registration website
If someone LEA or otherwise wants to to talk to my Registrar, they can do so at the office (by appointment) or by phone or by email or through the ticket system or any number of other *appropriate* and *documented* methods - they DO NOT need to know about and turn up at my HOME address
Rob -- Rob Golding rob.golding@astutium.com Astutium Ltd, Number One Poultry, London. EC2R 8JR
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