Dear all, Please find the mp3, AC Recording, attendance and AC Chat below for the GNSO Review Working Group held on Thursday, 30 November 2017 at 13:00 UTC. 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Kind regards, Nathalie ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for 30 November 2017 Nathalie Peregrine: Dear all, welcome to the GNSO Review Working Group call on Thursday 30 November at 13:00 UTC Nathalie Peregrine: Agenda page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_a... Krishna Seeburn - Kris:got disconnected Nathalie Peregrine:Glad you're back :) Krishna Seeburn - Kris:hi all Krishna Seeburn - Kris:it can ge gated access and will need members acceptance Jen Wolfe:I am on hold to get on the call Nathalie Peregrine:I ll alert the operator Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Hi everybody Krishna Seeburn - Kris:hi Krishna Seeburn - Kris:you sould have a why as we well Krishna Seeburn - Kris:25th may 2018 Krishna Seeburn - Kris:i think we need to do something soonest Marika Konings:One comment in relation to the SOI, following up on Mary's update, at some point it may also need to be considered whether SOIs need to be published publicly without any kind of access control (is that proportional to the purpose?). One could for example consider whether this information is only visible after logging into the wiki space, with clear information available how a log in can be obtained so it is still accessible, but there are some access requirements in place. Nathalie Peregrine:Lawrence Owalale-Roberts has joined the audio bridge Jen Wolfe:I agree with Wolf Ulrich Krishna Seeburn - Kris:May 2018 will impact........ Krishna Seeburn - Kris:from gdpr Mary Wong:Thanks for clarifying, Julie - that's what I meant about scope, in two respects: specific to the implementation of the current recommendations, and more broadly for the GNSO Operating Procedures. Mary Wong:Thanks everyone for having me on the call; I will be sure to update you all as soon as we have more information, hopefully imminently. Emily Barabas:Is the document not displaying for anyone else? Or is it an issue on my end? Krishna Seeburn - Kris:i see it Marika Konings:I am seeing it Nathalie Peregrine:I see it Sara Bockey:i see it Nathalie Peregrine:please log out and back in quickly,iy should fix it Mary Wong:The Community Recognition program spans all officers who are stepping down from SO, AC, SG and Constituency leadership. Krishna Seeburn - Kris:that was done.... Mary Wong:That's why we had 49 at ICANN60 :) Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:How about WG volunteers? Mary Wong:We will be starting this Award cycle, beginning with a call for nominations, soon. Krishna Seeburn - Kris:i agree with you wolf...may be that should be something to consider Mary Wong:@Julie, I can answer Wolf-Ulrich. Krishna Seeburn - Kris:very true and is great actually Krishna Seeburn - Kris:it has helped Krishna Seeburn - Kris:perhaps one other thing we should also think of is that wearing out of volunteers Krishna Seeburn - Kris:do we have a way to ensure continuity for example Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:ok Julie! Marika Konings:From a personal experience on the RDS WG, the out of bounds rotation definitely gets a lot less attendance than the 'normal' WG meeting, but the leadership is committed to keeping this rotation to accomodate participants from the Asia-Pacific timezone, regardless of lesser attendance. Krishna Seeburn - Kris:i've notcied that marika.... i am on the RDS Mary Wong:+1 to Marika's observation from the RPM Working Group Mary Wong:As Emily is saying, we do, however, get grumbling from either American or European-based folks on rotations that are APAC-friendly, but that is simply a function of the fact that currently WG membership is dominated by volunteers from those regions. That may change in the future, Marika Konings:In theory, everyone is always supportive of the idea of rotation, until they realise it means that they have to do a call at 4.00 am :-) rafik:sharing the pain Marika Konings:and of course, with all being volunteers and having day jobs, this is completely understandable Sara Bockey:I've noticed the same with rotation times for APAC. It also seems to draw more people from N Am & EU than APAC Marika Konings:@Sara - some are of the view that having 1 out of 4 calls in their timezone is not sufficient for them to effectively participate so some may just give up? Sara Bockey:I can see that...makes sense rafik:rotation worked well for ccwg. Sara Bockey:But that could be said for everyone when meetings rotate from morning/afternoon/evening Marika Konings:but CCWG ran on a pretty short timeline so maybe that made it easier for people to commit to rotation (and of course, high stakes outcome :-) Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:@Marika: It happened twice to me due to travelling; but I realized it was the wrong day :-) Krishna Seeburn - Kris:why not bring them from 1to 5? 1 to 7 seems a bit unreasonable Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Is the survey anonymous? Krishna Seeburn - Kris:i do not think it is anonymous.... Sara Bockey:It may be that some are just more steadfast in attending during set hours due to work or family obligations. Emily Barabas:Yes, I believe it is. One moment. Will confirm. Emily Barabas:Apologies, I am wrong and Kris is right :) The name is required. Mary Wong:Yes, name is rquired to make sure the person responding is a WG member in fact. However, the information is kept confidential. Marika Konings:Summary information is published but not attributed as far as I recall Krishna Seeburn - Kris:it depends also on the surveys as well Marika Konings:Apologies, but I have to drop off for another call Sara Bockey:thanks all Mary Wong:Thanks everyone! Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:thanks bye Krishna Seeburn - Kris:thanks all