Hi David, Greg and Ariel, If we don't have the draft text for a question, e.g., Q5(b), how can we close it? We've barely begun to open it... Best and tx, Kathy On 5/28/2019 7:00 PM, Ariel Liang wrote:
Hello Kristine,
Thank you for your comments.
Yes, that’s the latest Sunrise status check document we circulated last Friday.
Staff plan to send an updated version of the Status Check document before next week’s call that also includes the draft text for Preamble Q, Q5(b), Q8, Q9, Q10, Q11, and Q12. All Sunrise charter questions have been discussed by the Sub Team.
After the Sub Team has done the first pass of all draft text and the discussion threads are closed, staff will work with Sub Team Co-Chairs to produce another updated version with consideration to all Sub Team input. By then, the Sub Team will still have chance to review / comment on the updated draft and point out any missing information or mischaracterization.
Question for Kristine: Are you suggesting keeping the thread for Q5(b) open longer? Comments on the discussion threads do not necessarily need to respond to staff’s draft text, but we understand the point you raised. Transcript for last week’s call just became available (when Q5(b) was discussed) and we will include the draft text for Q5(b) in the updated status check document asap.
Best Regards,
Ariel
*From: *"Dorrain, Kristine" <dorraink@amazon.com> *Date: *Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 6:09 PM *To: *Ariel Liang <ariel.liang@icann.org>, "gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org" <gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org> *Subject: *[Ext] RE: [Gnso-rpm-sunrise] Closing Date of Sunrise Discussion Threads
Ariel, is this doc current? https://community.icann.org/display/RARPMRIAGPWG/Documents%2C+Drafts%2C+Resp...
All: I apologize I’ve just been treading water due to other constraints on my time lately. I thought my comments were being captured in the conversations, but I’m a little worried they might not be, or I’m looking at the wrong doc. I know we’ve had some good discussions on a few threads that aren’t fully captured in the doc yet, so I won’t re-hash those, but only call out a few things I noticed.
If that link is right, then Q3a and b are wrong (I cannot find the thread). There is absolutely no consensus that RY/RR name lists and pricing should be restricted in any way. At best I suggested potentially finding a way to use TM-PDDRP for that, but SDRP doesn’t fit the use case at all. I guess it’s fine if we need to reflect this viewpoint, but I think the viewpoint of what is likely to be the whole of retail RYs and RRs should also be reflected and I’m troubled there is not even placeholder text for that Was someone supposed to draft that?
Q4 better reflects the lack of consensus, though I think it’s still missing a basic “freedom to operate” perspective from RYs/RRs.
Q5a- text in orange might related to any of the subparts, but we should also note the business issues with forcing ROs to hold off on launching their TLDs for even longer, at a daily cost to themselves. This just defers cost to another party.
Q5(b)…there is no discussion on the doc so how can we close it? But in the event I didn’t make my views clear before. Sunrise should remain mandatory. No either/or.
Q6a…Staff comment/note #2… All RY zone files are updated daily. I’m not sure where this recommendation came from. I opposed comments 3-5 and I think there is good discussion on this thread. No consensus, clearly.
Q8&12: no comments on the work Maxim and I submitted yet?
Q 9 : also good discussion on the thread that I won’t re-hash (and it looks like, I won’t have time to participate in). But no consensus.
Q10 we asked and answered this.
Q11 Did we discuss this at all?
Sorry for my cursory thoughts, but I didn’t want the doc to be finalized yet and I can’t remember where we’re at.
Best,
Kristine
PS: I’m going to try to make both full calls tomorrow but may have conflicts.
*From:*Gnso-rpm-sunrise <gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces@icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Ariel Liang *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2019 12:38 PM *To:* gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-rpm-sunrise] Closing Date of Sunrise Discussion Threads
Dear Sunrise Sub Team members,
This is the last call for comments on the Sunrise discussion threads. The scheduled closing date/time for all discussion threads is tomorrow, Wednesday, 29 May at 23:59 UTC.
Per discussion with the Sub Team Co-Chairs, if you believe any Sunrise discussion thread should remain open longer, please nominate here. Furthermore, if any discussion thread were to be extended, it must be closed no later than Friday 31 May at 23:59 UTC, per Co-Chairs’ direction.
Currently the following Sunrise discussion threads are open:
* Preamble Q (& Proposals #1, #3, #8) * Q3 (& Proposals #10 & #11) - extended * Q4 - extended * Q5(a) - extended * Q5(b) (& Proposal #7) * Q6 (& Proposals #2 & #4) - extended * Q8/Q12 * Q9 (& Proposal #13) – extended * Q10 * Q11
Best Regards,
Mary, Julie, Ariel
*From: *Ariel Liang <ariel.liang@icann.org <mailto:ariel.liang@icann.org>> *Date: *Thursday, May 23, 2019 at 8:17 AM *To: *"gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org>" <gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org>> *Subject: *Closing Date of Sunrise Discussion Threads
Dear Sunrise Sub Team members,
On behalf of the Sub Team Co-Chairs, Staff would like to inform you that the discussion threads for the following agreed Sunrise charter questions will remain open until *23:59 UTC on Wednesday, 29 May 2019* to facilitate further discussions about the proposed answers, preliminary recommendations, and individual proposals.
* Preamble Q (& Proposals #1, #3, #8) * Q3 (& Proposals #10 & #11) - extended * Q4 - extended * Q5(a) - extended * Q5(b) (& Proposal #7) * Q6 (& Proposals #2 & #4) - extended * Q8/Q12 * Q9 (& Proposal #13) – extended * Q10 * Q11
Only the discussion thread for Q1 has been closed so far.
Please provide your input to the proposed answers and preliminary recommendations, as well as comment on the related Individual Proposal via the discussion threads. You may find the links to the opening messages of the discussion threads here: https://community.icann.org/x/_oIWBg
Thank you for your time and contribution.
Best Regards,
Mary, Julie, Ariel
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