August 2016 - Gnso-rpm-tmch

Mp3, Attendance & AC Chat for RPM TMCH Sub team call 05 August 2016 15:00 UTC
by Michelle DeSmyter Aug. 5, 2016

Aug. 5, 2016

Dear All, Please find the attendance, MP3 recording and Adobe Connect chat below for the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) TMCH Sub Team call held on Friday, 05 August 2016 at 15:00 UTC. MP3: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-rpm-tmch-05aug16-en.mp3 <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-rpm-tmch-05aug16-en.mp3> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the Sub Team wiki page:https://community.icann.org/x/UwSbAw Attendees RPM TMCH Sub Team: Grace Mutung’u Khouloud Dawahi Kathy Kleiman Kristine Dorrain Kurt Pritz On audio only: Jeff Neuman Apologies: Philip Corwin Susan Payne ICANN staff: Mary Wong Antonietta Mangiacotti David Tait Michelle DeSmyter ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-tmch/ Main RPM Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/rhiOAw Sub Team Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/UQCsAw Thank you. Kind regards, Michelle DeSmyter ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for 05 August 2016: Michelle DeSmyter:Welcome to the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) TMCH Sub team Meeting WG held on Friday, 05 August 2016 at 15:00 UTC for 60 minutes. Grace Mutung'u:Hi everyone Grace Mutung'u:I'm sorry I'm having problems with my mic Mary Wong:The document that is on the screen is the updated scoping document Kurt is mentioning Kathy:Hi Grace, please feel free to type... Kathy:or would you like a local number to dial in on? Kristine:Sorry I'm late, dialing in now. Grace Mutung'u:thanks Kathy. I don't think I can dial in from Nairobi Kurt Pritz:Can we dial out to Grace? Grace Mutung'u:Its okay, I will type Kathy:Tx Mary! Kathy:Publicly available information - list/links back to the WG - as a first step. Great! Grace Mutung'u:what about users of TMCH? They may have practical experiences on what they could /could not find at TMCHs Kathy:+1 Grace Mary Wong:@Kurt, that is something David and I are working with our GDD colleagues to sift through Kristine:I'm getting a horrible background noice like chirping khouloud Dawahi: we should go no for the public information available on the internet and try to outreach other mostly the registrars khouloud Dawahi:me too kristine Mary Wong:@Kathy, @Khouloud, should this Sub Team reach out to registrars, registries and users at this stage? Kathy: NO! khouloud Dawahi: I think that meeting the trademark house should be done by the WG call not the sub team group as it s role is to collecte available public information .Is nt that the essential role of the sub team ?@Mary yes we should as i said in the chat previously .Yes for the registrars and registries at this stage not the trademark house .I dont know if you agree with me khouloud Dawahi:@Kathy No about what I didnt understand ?? khouloud Dawahi:@kathy yes that s what i said it s up to the WG group call to contact the trademark house not the sub team Kathy:+Khouloud - my emphatic "no" was to the idea of meeting privately with the TMCH through the WG. Kathy:+1 Khouloud I would agree that the whole WG needs to meet with TMCH Kathy:@Kurt: do you think there is "publicly-available information" from registries and registrars on the sunrise and TM? Kathy:TM claims? Kathy:@Grace: what type of materials would you like to gather from users? What type of questions? khouloud Dawahi:thanks dear kathy yes i fear that we may go astray if we contact the TMH as our essential role is to gather data not to assess them .It is up to the WG to assess them but i think we should contact registries and registrars @kathy Grace Mutung'u:@ Kathy, their view on the CH procedures....gaps... Kathy:@Mary: to Notes: and also what might be privately available reports to ICANN that could be "redacted" or otherwise shared in some form or other Kristine:Kurt, I like that. Kristine:We should really start with our question list before dragging anyone else in Kristine:I understand that point, Kathy Kathy:@Mary: where does our list of publicly-available documents stand? Kathy:@Mary: is there a Q&A on Analysis Group? Kristine:I think looking at the report will be very helpful in determing what we still need to look for. khouloud Dawahi:not at all kathy khouloud Dawahi:yes khouloud Dawahi:kathy Grace Mutung'u:yes, certainly khouloud Dawahi:@kurt hhhhhhhhh Kathy: Tx Khouloud and Grace! khouloud Dawahi:you re most welcome kathy Mary Wong:@Kurt, @Kristine - we will be happy to do that, and guidance from the Sub TEam would be great so we're not starting from zero Kristine:Exactly, Mary. We need to provide guidance and that is a good use of this subteam's time. khouloud Dawahi: I think that google searchs can be helpful as well Kristine:khouloud, what specific searches do you recommend? Kristine:Agree with document lists and summary, NOT analysis. khouloud Dawahi:i think we should look for registrars inputs , i found a google input doc related to the TMH so , it could be helpful actually @kristine Mary Wong:@Khouloud please send it to the list. As noted earlier, we are not reaching out to registrars at this point. khouloud Dawahi:@Mary ok i will send it to the sub team or should i send it to the sub team and WG as well ??, Mary Wong:Just the sub team for now, I think, as we are compiling the list Kathy:In notes: Compare TMCH's Monthly report against publicly available data to see if it is comprehensive. khouloud Dawahi:@mary ok i will send the report i found after the call Kristine:Thanks, Khouloud. I agree we should archive that for when we get there. Kurt Pritz:I'd like to see the report Khouloud found also. Kristine:Sorry, time is up so i'll put my hand down. I propose we spend the week on the list generating some questions and we can use next week to review the question list. Kristine:yes Kristine:Will do. Kurt Pritz:Agenda item 2: the sub-team can provide edits to the Analysis Q&A doc so it can be included in what we present to the RPM WG khouloud Dawahi:@kristine welcome @kurt yes will send it to the group i hope it would be helpful as it provided the opinion of a registrar .I didnt send it back then because it was to early . Kristine:Thanks to staff! Mary Wong:@Kurt, got it, thanks Michelle DeSmyter:Sub team wiki space: https://community.icann.org/x/UQCsAw khouloud Dawahi:Thank you all David Tait:Thank you all Grace Mutung'u:thnaks all khouloud Dawahi:bye

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Notes and action items from the TMCH Sub Team call held earlier today
by Mary Wong Aug. 5, 2016

Aug. 5, 2016

Dear all, Here are the staff notes and action items from the Sub Team call held earlier today. For your convenience, we have categorized them into three main tasks, as you’ll see below: (1) the Sub Team’s report to the full WG next week; (2) the agreed activity for the Sub Team between now and our next call next Friday; and (3) additional staff work (besides the initial data gathering work we describe under (1) – for that, please look for a draft preliminary Sub Team report shortly.) 1. The Sub Team will make a preliminary report to the full Working Group regarding the status of its work at the next Working Group (WG) meeting on Wednesday 10 August. In preparation for that report, please note the following: · Sub Team members are requested to review the Notes from the Sub Team meeting with the Analysis Group and provide any suggested changes or comments by 12:00 UTC on Tuesday 9 August. This will allow us to send the report to the WG a day prior to the WG call. The Notes (as sent to the full WG last week) are attached and are also available on the Sub Team wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/eQ2bAw. · Staff will draw up a brief report for the Sub Team’s review by Monday 8 August. · The report will cover the following three areas: a) Request for clarification from the WG about the scope of the task of the Sub Team: In this respect, staff notes that early WG conversations about setting up the Sub Team had included the possibility that the Sub Team would go out to the relevant providers for basic data, e.g. the TMCH for number of trademarks registered, number of trademark holders that used the “TM+50” mechanism, number of trademark holders that used the “extended registration” period, etc. As a result of the call today, our understanding is that the Sub Team will focus on what data is publicly available – in that respect, it may be that many of these questions can be answered by publicly available data. NOTE: One follow-up question that staff had for the Sub Team is whether, by “publicly available”, the Sub Team means only information, documents and materials that have been published or that are otherwise available for public access (e.g. through a Google search), or whether the term also encompasses information that already exists and that can be made available on request (e.g. completed studies and reports that are not published or otherwise available via public access). b) Report on the scope of the initial data gathering work: The staff understanding from the call today is that, based on the Sub Team’s suggestions on possible public sources, staff will gather and retrieve the necessary documents, information and materials from those sources. Each document will be posted to or linked from the WG wiki space, and a bibliography may be prepared depending on the number and type of documents. Staff will review the documents for any relevant data that staff will then extract, from which review staff will prepare a summary for the Sub Team. Analysis of the data and other relevant information from the materials will be performed by the Sub Team. As an initial exercise, staff will begin review of data from the following publicly available sources: (i) presentations and webinars given by Deloitte/IBM; (ii) the TMCH monthly reports to ICANN; and (iii) other existing public documents known to staff (e.g. public comment reports, GAC advice, scorecards and implementation notes, TMCH-related reports such as the RPM Staff Paper, and the Analysis Group’s report). Another possible source of data could be the monthly registry and registrar reports to ICANN – for these, Policy Staff will need to coordinate with our GDD colleagues (see further below). c) Report on discussion with the Analysis Group: Staff will attach the final note on this call after the Sub Team has provided any additional comments, as noted above. 2. Between now and the next Sub Team call next Friday, the Sub Team will continue to generate and discuss questions for which additional data gathering can be done. · Kristine Dorrain will follow up with a note to the list on this topic. · To kickstart this discussion, Sub Team members may wish to refer to the WG Charter questions and additional questions that have been suggested by the community (attached as incorporated into the Updated Scoping Document) · Sub Team members may also consider whether it will be useful, when we get the initial data from the staff report, to note which questions can be answered at least in part by the data we have, which may require additional data that can be gathered, and which may require much more analysis and/or hard to find data 3. In addition to the initial data gathering (above), policy staff will continue to coordinate with our GDD colleagues to see what additional data can be shared from the TMCH. · As noted on the call, this may take some time due to staff being out of the office for much of August. · To the extent that the Sub Team or WG wishes to obtain additional data from the TMCH providers at some point, it was noted on the call that requests should be sent as early as possible. Although the providers are very keen to collaborate and have been helpful throughout the New gTLD Program, it takes a bit of time for them to provide responses to requests. · For the monthly registry and registrar reports, policy staff will consult GDD staff to find out which, if any, reported data is likely to be relevant to RPM review. · A reason why some data may not be available or easily shared with the WG is contractual arrangements and NDAs. We hope the above set of notes and action items is accurate and helpful. The recording, transcript and Adobe Connect chat from the call today will be posted to the Sub Team wiki space as soon as each comes available: https://community.icann.org/x/UQCsAw. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org Telephone: +1-603-5744889

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Meeting Invitation: RPM TMCH sub team call Friday, 12 August 2016 15:00 UTC
by Michelle DeSmyter Aug. 5, 2016

Aug. 5, 2016

Dear all, The next RPM TMCH sub team will be held on Friday, 12 August 2016 at 15:00 UTC for 60 minutes. 08:00 PDT, 11:00 EDT, 16:00 London, 17:00 CEST For other times: http://tinyurl.com/j4xj9kc Adobe Connect WITH AUDIO enabled:https://icann.adobeconnect.com/gnso-rpm/ For those of you using the Adobe Connect audio, you may do so by activating your computer microphone via the Adobe room (Using a headset is preferable here). Make sure your speakers and microphone are not on mute. - Select the TELEPHONE ICON at the top of the AC toolbar and choose CONNECT MY AUDIO (only option). - Select USING COMPUTER twice - Select ALLOW access to the ICANN Adobe room - the TELEPHONE ICON at the top of the toolbar should then have changed into a MICROPHONE ICON - You may click on this MICROPHONE ICON to mute yourself (Icon will then have a line through it) and to unmute yourself (Line disappears) Participants must ALWAYS have their microphone or telephone on MUTE as default setting. You are requested to RAISE YOUR HAND if you wish to participate to avoid disruption. Dial-in details are below. Please confirm your dial-out or apology requests to GNSO Secretariats gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> ______________________________________________________________________ Participant passcode: RPM TMCH Dial in numbers: Country Toll Numbers Freephone/ Toll Free Number ARGENTINA 0800-777-0519 AUSTRALIA ADELAIDE: 61-8-8121-4842 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA BRISBANE: 61-7-3102-0944 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA CANBERRA: 61-2-6100-1944 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA MELBOURNE: 61-3-9010-7713 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA PERTH: 61-8-9467-5223 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA SYDNEY: 61-2-8205-8129 1-800-657-260 AUSTRIA 43-1-92-81-113 0800-005-259 BELGIUM 32-2-400-9861 0800-3-8795 BRAZIL 0800-7610651 CHILE 1230-020-2863 CHINA CHINA A: 86-400-810-4789 10800-712-1670 CHINA CHINA B: 86-400-810-4789 10800-120-1670 COLOMBIA 01800-9-156474 CZECH REPUBLIC 420-2-25-98-56-64 800-700-177 DENMARK 45-7014-0284 8088-8324 ESTONIA 800-011-1093 FINLAND 358-9-5424-7162 0-800-9-14610 FRANCE LYON: 33-4-26-69-12-85 080-511-1496 FRANCE MARSEILLE: 33-4-86-06-00-85 080-511-1496 FRANCE PARIS: 33-1-70-70-60-72 080-511-1496 GERMANY 49-69-2222-20362 0800-664-4247 GREECE 30-80-1-100-0687 00800-12-7312 HONG KONG 852-3001-3863 800-962-856 HUNGARY 06-800-12755 INDIA INDIA A: 000-800-852-1268 INDIA INDIA B: 000-800-001-6305 INDIA INDIA C: 1800-300-00491 INDONESIA 001-803-011-3982 IRELAND 353-1-246-7646 1800-992-368 ISRAEL 1-80-9216162 ITALY MILAN: 39-02-3600-6007 800-986-383 JAPAN OSAKA: 81-6-7739-4799 0066-33-132439 JAPAN TOKYO: 81-3-5539-5191 0066-33-132439 LATVIA 8000-3185 LUXEMBOURG 352-27-000-1364 MALAYSIA 1-800-81-3065 MEXICO 001-866-376-9696 NETHERLANDS 31-20-718-8588 0800-023-4378 NEW ZEALAND 64-9-970-4771 0800-447-722 NORWAY 47-21-590-062 800-15157 PANAMA 011-001-800-5072065 PERU 0800-53713 PHILIPPINES 63-2-858-3716 POLAND 00-800-1212572 PORTUGAL 8008-14052 RUSSIA 8-10-8002-0144011 SAUDI ARABIA 800-8-110087 SINGAPORE 65-6883-9230 800-120-4663 SLOVAK REPUBLIC 421-2-322-422-25 SOUTH AFRICA 080-09-80414 SOUTH KOREA 82-2-6744-1083 00798-14800-7352 SPAIN 34-91-414-25-33 800-300-053 SWEDEN 46-8-566-19-348 0200-884-622 SWITZERLAND 41-44-580-6398 0800-120-032 TAIWAN 886-2-2795-7379 00801-137-797 THAILAND 001-800-1206-66056 UNITED KINGDOM BIRMINGHAM: 44-121-210-9025 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM GLASGOW: 44-141-202-3225 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM LEEDS: 44-113-301-2125 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM LONDON: 44-20-7108-6370 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM MANCHESTER: 44-161-601-1425 0808-238-6029 URUGUAY 000-413-598-3421 USA 1-517-345-9004 866-692-5726 VENEZUELA 0800-1-00-3702 Thank you. Kind regards, Michelle

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REMINDER Meeting Invitation: RPM TMCH sub team call held on Friday, 05 August 2016 at 15:00 UTC
by Terri Agnew Aug. 4, 2016

Aug. 4, 2016

Dear all, The next RPM TMCH sub team will be held on Friday, 05 August 2016 at 15:00 UTC for 60 minutes. 08:00 PDT, 11:00 EDT, 16:00 London, 17:00 CEST For other times: http://tinyurl.com/jydobno Adobe Connect WITH AUDIO enabled: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/gnso-rpm/ For those of you using the Adobe Connect audio, you may do so by activating your computer microphone via the Adobe room (Using a headset is preferable here). Make sure your speakers and microphone are not on mute. - Select the TELEPHONE ICON at the top of the AC toolbar and choose CONNECT MY AUDIO (only option). - Select USING COMPUTER twice - Select ALLOW access to the ICANN Adobe room - the TELEPHONE ICON at the top of the toolbar should then have changed into a MICROPHONE ICON - You may click on this MICROPHONE ICON to mute yourself (Icon will then have a line through it) and to unmute yourself (Line disappears) Participants must ALWAYS have their microphone or telephone on MUTE as default setting. You are requested to RAISE YOUR HAND if you wish to participate to avoid disruption. Dial-in details are below. Please confirm your dial-out or apology requests to GNSO Secretariats gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> ______________________________________________________________________ Participant passcode: RPM TMCH Dial in numbers: Country Toll Numbers Freephone/ Toll Free Number ARGENTINA 0800-777-0519 AUSTRALIA ADELAIDE: 61-8-8121-4842 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA BRISBANE: 61-7-3102-0944 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA CANBERRA: 61-2-6100-1944 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA MELBOURNE: 61-3-9010-7713 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA PERTH: 61-8-9467-5223 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA SYDNEY: 61-2-8205-8129 1-800-657-260 AUSTRIA 43-1-92-81-113 0800-005-259 BELGIUM 32-2-400-9861 0800-3-8795 BRAZIL 0800-7610651 CHILE 1230-020-2863 CHINA CHINA A: 86-400-810-4789 10800-712-1670 CHINA CHINA B: 86-400-810-4789 10800-120-1670 COLOMBIA 01800-9-156474 CZECH REPUBLIC 420-2-25-98-56-64 800-700-177 DENMARK 45-7014-0284 8088-8324 ESTONIA 800-011-1093 FINLAND 358-9-5424-7162 0-800-9-14610 FRANCE LYON: 33-4-26-69-12-85 080-511-1496 FRANCE MARSEILLE: 33-4-86-06-00-85 080-511-1496 FRANCE PARIS: 33-1-70-70-60-72 080-511-1496 GERMANY 49-69-2222-20362 0800-664-4247 GREECE 30-80-1-100-0687 00800-12-7312 HONG KONG 852-3001-3863 800-962-856 HUNGARY 06-800-12755 INDIA INDIA A: 000-800-852-1268 INDIA INDIA B: 000-800-001-6305 INDIA INDIA C: 1800-300-00491 INDONESIA 001-803-011-3982 IRELAND 353-1-246-7646 1800-992-368 ISRAEL 1-80-9216162 ITALY MILAN: 39-02-3600-6007 800-986-383 JAPAN OSAKA: 81-6-7739-4799 0066-33-132439 JAPAN TOKYO: 81-3-5539-5191 0066-33-132439 LATVIA 8000-3185 LUXEMBOURG 352-27-000-1364 MALAYSIA 1-800-81-3065 MEXICO 001-866-376-9696 NETHERLANDS 31-20-718-8588 0800-023-4378 NEW ZEALAND 64-9-970-4771 0800-447-722 NORWAY 47-21-590-062 800-15157 PANAMA 011-001-800-5072065 PERU 0800-53713 PHILIPPINES 63-2-858-3716 POLAND 00-800-1212572 PORTUGAL 8008-14052 RUSSIA 8-10-8002-0144011 SAUDI ARABIA 800-8-110087 SINGAPORE 65-6883-9230 800-120-4663 SLOVAK REPUBLIC 421-2-322-422-25 SOUTH AFRICA 080-09-80414 SOUTH KOREA 82-2-6744-1083 00798-14800-7352 SPAIN 34-91-414-25-33 800-300-053 SWEDEN 46-8-566-19-348 0200-884-622 SWITZERLAND 41-44-580-6398 0800-120-032 TAIWAN 886-2-2795-7379 00801-137-797 THAILAND 001-800-1206-66056 UNITED KINGDOM BIRMINGHAM: 44-121-210-9025 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM GLASGOW: 44-141-202-3225 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM LEEDS: 44-113-301-2125 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM LONDON: 44-20-7108-6370 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM MANCHESTER: 44-161-601-1425 0808-238-6029 URUGUAY 000-413-598-3421 USA 1-517-345-9004 866-692-5726 VENEZUELA 0800-1-00-3702 Thank you. Kind regards, Terri

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Follow from meeting with Analysis Team
by David Tait Aug. 4, 2016

Aug. 4, 2016

Dear TMCH sub-team participants Staff are seeking your authorization and guidance on a number of follow-up actions arising from our call on 29 July 2016 with the Analysis team. We would propose to send the following questions to the TMCH provider (these are based on notes from the last two calls): 1. Can they provide the Deloitte monthly reports as updated? 2. What other types of information (presumably aggregated) can they provide about usage of the TMCH? (Please note: Should the sub-team believe this question should be refined/made more specific I would refer you to the Appendix of TMCH Scoping document– I attach an updated version – which may assist you in suggesting specific language) 3. Are they able to tell us how many private users are using the TMCH, particularly registries, and for what additional purposes? Should it be of assistance the transcript and recording of the call with the Analysis Group are available at: https://community.icann.org/x/eQ2bAw. Staff are also seeking your instructions as to what next steps the sub-team wishes to take following the call with Greg and Stacey last week (for ease of reference please find the notes from the WG meeting attached). We would be grateful if you could please identify which items you would like us to follow-up on and with whom. Finally, we would ask whether you believe you will be in a position to provide a preliminary report to the full WG, say in two weeks’ time (on 10 August) and a subsequent one two weeks after that. Staff would further note that based on the consensus regarding these reporting deadlines within the sub-team, the overall timeline may need to be adjusted for the Work Plan. We look forward to receiving your direction. Kind regards, David David A. Tait Policy Specialist (Solicitor qualified in Scotland) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Mobile: + 44-7864-793776 Email: david.tait(a)icann.org www.icann.org

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