Hi George, It seems there's no point you can't talk to death. 8 paragraphs on ranting, 1 to chide me for being ready to vote on thie Sunrise iaaue (let's not be obtuse), & 1 to slam ICANN. It is enough & is becoming a waste of my time. Your arguments have been unpersuasive, the personal commentary boorish & the hyperbole distracting. I'm interested in hearing a bit more about Volker's proposal. Then perhaps we should address this issue & move on. Cyntia King On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 6:13 AM -0500, "George Kirikos" <icann@leap.com> wrote: Hi Cyntia, You should know me better by now, after all these years. "Though this be madness, yet there is method in 't." --- Hamlet http://shakespeare.mit.edu/hamlet/hamlet.2.2.html Rick Mercer wrote an excellent piece "Why I rant. And why you should too." http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/why-i-rant/ "Ranting is a 'skill' ... Everyone should rant. Ranting not only makes you feel better but occasionally, as my mother proved to me many times, you might get results—justice, satisfaction or a fudge stick. ... Canadians don’t rant enough. We are busy people and I get that. We don’t necessarily have the time or the inclination to come across like mad people who are constantly barking about waste, corruption and lack of transparency in three different levels of government. ... But the danger in not ranting is dire. If we as a nation don’t rant then the powers that be will use that complacency against us. ... Hopefully it will dawn on Canadians that the one thing we shouldn’t care about is what the government thinks of us or what names they call us. Prime ministers, premiers and cabinet ministers aren’t our friends; they are just people in bad suits who work for us. We are the boss. And if they want to work for us they have to listen to us, answer our questions and occasionally, like all employees, listen to the boss rant." A rant, agreed, but not not a bombastic (empty) one, but instead a methodical rant full of content and purpose, asking questions about limits of TMs, examples of genericide, and so on, interleaved with 'emotional' appeals. A very *strategic* rant. An intelligent choice to rant after looking at the playing field carefully. Take a look at the 2016 US Presidential election, and the Brexit votes. Which campaigns were more 'professional', yet which sides ultimately one? ;-) This is adaptive learning at work. I'm sure quite a lot of "professional" analysis and discourse has led to serious errors of policy at ICANN. I'm sure a lot of professionals made predictions about new gTLDs and appropriate strategies, for themselves and their clients, all now proven wrong. Many folks lost money, time, and careers due to those mistakes, betting the wrong way. They're looking for a new direction, superior analysis, and better solutions than those of the past. In the separate IGO PDP, for example, which shares some of the same membership as this working group, I need not rant as much, as the circumstances warrant different strategic behaviour. By the way, that PDP has a much narrower scope than this one, yet has taken 3 years (and followed up on a prior one that 'punted' some topics to this one). Thanks for letting us all know you're 'ready to vote', well in advance of data collection and analysis and arguments. By the time we actually get to a final report and consensus vote in 2022 or so, I'll be sure to look back at yesterday's email from you and smile. No one has ever lost money betting on ICANN delays. We've spent the last year or so on procedural issues, and finalizing various *questions*. Then, there's data collection. Then, there's analysis. Then there's arguments. Then there's iteration. The public will eventually weigh in at some point, and then we get to do things all over again. I think the evidence-based policy making (as opposed to the flawed policymaking at ICANN that got us here, which was based on incorrect conjectures and weak analysis) will ultimately lead us in the right direction. Sincerely, George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/ On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 8:10 PM, Cyntia King wrote:
Hi George,
You’re not “educating” me - I fully understand the difference between professional discourse & bombastic rant. You draw a false equivalence between matters of assault/human suffering and domain registrations. This isn’t “wallop” it’s disregard for the relative importance of these events. Let’s keep our arguments professional & not needlessly provocative.
I have read your emails & I understand your POV.
I have presented my own views & I’m satisfied you understand them.
I’m ready to vote.
Cyntia King
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