+1 on all points, Jon. Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 15, 2017, at 10:09 AM, Jon Nevett <jon@donuts.email> wrote:
J. Scott:
To correct the record on a couple of your posts:
1. New TLD registries asked for a relatively small refund of the almost $100M in excess application fees we paid to ICANN in the form of a fee reduction. That doesn't mean they are a "disaster" or "unsuccessful" or whatever else you are insinuating.
2. I haven't seen any evidence that New TLD registries are generally in violation of their registry agreements with regard to the provision about registrant misuse of domain names. If you have evidence of such, let's work together with ICANN compliance to go after these registries. Those of us spending a great deal on compliance don't like to see others skirt the rules.
Could we deal with the legitimate concerns of the current system without leveling attacks and unfair insinuations against other groups?
It seems like registries on this list are ok with the current use of the TMCH and the sunrise process. We want to address the small subset of sunrise gaming where folks register dictionary-word trademarks for the sole purpose of registering during sunrises in related TLDs. One solution to this problem is to give registries better access to the clearinghouse to deal with these issues, but with strict guidelines of how that information could be used.
I also have heard many concerns about the 90 day claims requirements, as many registrars declined to build the infrastructure to process such domain names during the first 90 days.
Thanks.
jon
On Apr 14, 2017, at 5:56 PM, J. Scott Evans via gnso-rpm-wg <gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> wrote:
I think you could say that about 99% of the new gTLDs. Didn’t they recently ask for a reduction in fees?
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On 4/14/17, 2:54 PM, "gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org on behalf of George Kirikos" <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org on behalf of icann@leap.com> wrote:
Just to correct my prior email, .pro technically wasn't a "sponsored" TLD.
But, the other ones that were sponsored weren't very successful (.post, .aero, .asia, .jobs. mobi, .xxx etc.).
Sincerely,
George
On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 4:47 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> wrote: Hi J. Scott,
On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 4:22 PM, J. Scott Evans via gnso-rpm-wg <gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> wrote:
My suggestion would be that either we have sponsored TLDs with up front verification or we have a challenge system whereby the challenging party that wants to us the string for a non-infringing purpose could obtain the domain name; provided, however that their use was subject to the requirement that they stick to the stated non-infringing purpose. Failure to do so is a breach of the TOS and the Registry would takedown the domain name if it received a valid complaint. Similar to DMCA.
We're trying to achieve the same result, which I see as promising.
With respect, it's unfortunate that sponsored TLDs turned out be a disaster. Either they were outright gamed (e.g. people renting out their ".pro" qualifications/credentials/whatever), or domains were mopped up by insiders (e.g. .travel), etc.
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With a "challenge" system, what if there were multiple challengers? Who gets the domain name? What if the sunrise registrant wants the domain name more than the "challenger(s)" does(do)? Who gets it?
What I proposed (auction system in landrush, which is how landrushes tend to operate anyhow; i.e. just eliminate the sunrise and go straight to landrush) is entire neutral and "clean." The answers to the above questions are simple: money.
No need to reinvent the wheel here. Money has always been the way to solve these allocation issues for scarce resources. Once you start interfering in that (to suggest that someone is "more deserving" of the asset), it invites the gaming we're seeing.
It'd be interesting to know the stats on average domains registered in sunrise, by the way, if anyone has those handy. i.e. we know that on average 130 per TLD are registered in sunrise. How many more are being registered in landrush, on average?
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