Hi Greg & All: Cc Eric at Jones Day. For Domain Name Registrants of ".COM" I'd like to see participation from people completely unrelated to the original UDRP, plus exclusion of people from the original *Trademark, intellectual property, anti-counterfeiting interests,* of April 9, 1999, as identified > https://archive.icann.org/en/dnso/constituency_groups.html < and any who've worked by, or with the Jones Day staffer "volunteer" { wink, wink } implanted at arms length from outside council to work as "inside council" for ICANN. This is important because our supposedly protected ".COM" Common Law *Mark, Word, Term, Name, Symbol, Trade Name, Trademark as ™ or other intellectual property rights of the person and Domain Name,* *not ®* all constitute *"1st in Use" *and* "In Commerce"* in Cyberspace; and are SUPPOSEDLY protected by the Lanham Act, In Rem or In Personum. This should be so, until such time as CentralNic's infringing, diluting & blurring *mock cc.COMs* here called SLD's are are resolved at the third party level *~ from the ICANN Et Al C**ontributor(s) collectively.* People here will know, that CentralNic's uk.COM was and remains now, subject to the ".COM" terms of use, as a Domain Name Registrant, per: Registrar Accreditation Agreement(Approved November 4, 1999)(Posted November 9, 1999)
http://archive.icann.org/en/nsi/icann-raa-04nov99.htm#IIJ7b < and all since.
Also Greg, since we spoke; and You're the IPC President, please identify how CentralNic's uk.COM Domain Name became ... extraterritorial to the Lanham Acts ACPA. Your answer Greg, is REQUIRED, given ICANN are identified in the TPP for Intellectual Property and Domain Names. Greg, you'll know too, that within the TPP ICANN & You as our IPC Prez have become very conveniently subjects of the Canadian Courts for questioning, per *h. For the adjudication of disputes concerning or arising from use of the SLD name, the SLD holder shall submit, without prejudice to other potentially applicable jurisdictions, to the jurisdiction of the courts (1) of the SLD holder's domicile and ...* Going forward, the Canadian Court will also be informed that, while true *(2) where **[ Verisign & Network Solutions ] as **R[r]egistrar & R[r]egistry *is located the local Court curiously abdicated responsibility! I have no doubt that before the TPP is Ratified, responsible people in the United States & Canada will be chatting ~ holding up IANA Transition ~ until the "Landcruise" problem's resolved, as I'm NOT going to the ADR Forum to resolve this problem; because they're part of the racket also. Thanks all. Cheers, Graham. On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Greg Shatan via gnso-rpm-wg < gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> wrote:
Volker,
I don't think so. First, Phil represents domain investors, a perfectly valid but very specific subset of domain name owners. Second, I think its very fair to say that there's been a significant degree of alignment between the interests of domain investors and the viewpoints espoused by some from the non-commercial user community. Again, all valid viewpoints, but ones with a high degree of overlap. Hence the concerns about balance.
As to neutrality, I agree that it is what is expected, but these and prior efforts show that importance is placed on where one comes from (both SG/C and positionally) and I think that reflects valid underlying concerns.
Greg
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Volker Greimann via gnso-rpm-wg < gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> wrote:
Hi Greg,
I think there is a good balance here, despite your concerns: If as you say, represents business interests with an IP focus, Kathy represents users of domain names and Phil presents owners of domain names, there is no real overlap here, and even if there were, the leaderships role is a neutral one and one's own position should not influence the work, wouldn't you agree?
While having a leadership position filled by the CPH may be desirable, there has been no nomination or volunteer that would fit that slot, AFAIK.
Best,
Volker
Am 12.04.2016 um 17:04 schrieb Greg Shatan via gnso-rpm-wg:
I think the balance issue cuts rather differently, and a vice-chair from the Contracted Parties House might actually exacerbate the issue.
If we are talking about "formal" representation, both J. Scott and Phil are members of the Business Constituency, so it's not fair to say that Phil, but not J. Scott, represents "business interests." On an informal or "de facto" level, J Scott tends to represent (or at least stand for) the interests of businesses for whom IP is a significant asset, while Phil represents (and actually does represent) the interests of domain investors (a very specific sector of the business community for whom IP is, at best, not a significant asset). As such, Phil's perspectives are far more aligned with those represented by Kathy, and that is the imbalance to which I refer.
My suggested configuration was intended to find a role for all 3 volunteers, while maintaining some sort of balance. If Phil's not interested in the GNSO Liaison role, in spite of the fact that it's the role he volunteered for at Council, that's fine. However, that does make it appear that this was done as a steppingstone to the Chair and not out of interest in the role on its own merits. Of course, I may be reading too much into things.
I'd like to stress that I have the highest respect, and even affection, for all 3 volunteers, and for their contributions to ICANN over the years. But the configuration of our leadership team has to take other things into account.
Greg
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Jonathan Frost via gnso-rpm-wg < <gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org>gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> wrote:
I tend to agree that there might be balance issues in that the non-contracted party house would have three representatives and the contracted party house would have none.
I think a viable option would be to Phil as the Chair, J. Scott and Kathy as Vice Chairs, and a third vice chair from the contracted party house, to balance the equation.
Jonathan
*From:* <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org>gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Greg Shatan via gnso-rpm-wg *Sent:* Tuesday, April 12, 2016 10:38 AM *To:* Statton Hammock <statton@rightside.rocks> <statton@rightside.rocks> *Cc:* Zahid Jamil-IG via gnso-rpm-wg < <gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> *Subject:* Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Suggestion for Leadership Team
I have some concerns with this configuration in terms of balance (and related concerns about the accuracy of Volker's categorizations, on both the "formal" and de facto levels). As such I would instead suggest J. Scott and Kathy as co-chairs, with Phil remaining in the role of GNSO Liaison (the primary role to which Phil was already appointed).
Greg Shatan
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Statton Hammock via gnso-rpm-wg < <gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org>gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> wrote:
Also agree with Volker's suggestion.
Statton
*Statton Hammock*
*Vice-President, Business & Legal Affairs*
[image: Rightside]
*Office | 425-298-2367 <425-298-2367>*
*Mobile | 425-891-9297 <425-891-9297>*
* <statton@rightside.rocks>statton@rightside.rocks <statton@rightside.rocks>*
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 6:30 AM, Gabriela Szlak via gnso-rpm-wg < <gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org>gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> wrote:
+ 1 to Volker.
*Gabriela Szlak *
*Skype:* gabrielaszlak
*Twitter: @*GabiSzlak
La información contenida en este e-mail es confidencial.
The information in this e-mail is confidential.
2016-04-12 10:24 GMT-03:00 Volker Greimann via gnso-rpm-wg < <gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org>gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org>:
Hi all,
with the list of nominations and seconds that we have right now (and provided we will not get any last minute nominations), it looks like Phil, Scott and Kathy have the most support. While none of these candidates represent contracted parties, I do not see this as a problem, as I have great faith in the neutrality of all candidates.
With Phil formally representing business interests, Scott the IP concerns and Kathy the non commercial users, I propose we consider a triumvirate, maybe with one chair and two co/vice-chairs, with Phil as chair and Scott and Kathy as co-chairs.
Best regards,
Volker _______________________________________________ gnso-rpm-wg mailing list <gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org>gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg
_______________________________________________ gnso-rpm-wg mailing list gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg
_______________________________________________ gnso-rpm-wg mailing list gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg
_______________________________________________ gnso-rpm-wg mailing list gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg
_______________________________________________ gnso-rpm-wg mailing listgnso-rpm-wg@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg
-- Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Volker A. Greimann - Rechtsabteilung -
Key-Systems GmbH Im Oberen Werk 1 66386 St. Ingbert Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901 Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851 Email: vgreimann@key-systems.net
Web: www.key-systems.net / www.RRPproxy.netwww.domaindiscount24.com / www.BrandShelter.com
Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook:www.facebook.com/KeySystemswww.twitter.com/key_systems
Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUPwww.keydrive.lu
Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen.
--------------------------------------------
Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Best regards,
Volker A. Greimann - legal department -
Key-Systems GmbH Im Oberen Werk 1 66386 St. Ingbert Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901 Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851 Email: vgreimann@key-systems.net
Web: www.key-systems.net / www.RRPproxy.netwww.domaindiscount24.com / www.BrandShelter.com
Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on Facebook and stay updated:www.facebook.com/KeySystemswww.twitter.com/key_systems
CEO: Alexander Siffrin Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUPwww.keydrive.lu
This e-mail and its attachments is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. Furthermore it is not permitted to publish any content of this email. You must not use, disclose, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, kindly notify the author by replying to this e-mail or contacting us by telephone.
_______________________________________________ gnso-rpm-wg mailing list gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg
_______________________________________________ gnso-rpm-wg mailing list gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg