As to whether something is "working", it's probably dangerous to extrapolate from a sample of 1. I don't think this shows much, other than that the URS worked in this instance. It would be interesting to know more about how the claimant felt this worked (and as Jon points out, why they chose URS over UDRP).
From the point of view of this group, an interesting aspect of the case is that all 474 domain names were registered in .xyz.
This type of wholesale registration may indicate that the Claims Notices are *not* working. It's likely that the registrant received few if any claims notices since their domains are almost all "mark+" domains. It would probably make more sense for Claims Notices to go out whenever the registered string appears in the domain string, not only when the registered string matches the domain string. It's also interesting to think about what would happen if the claimant here wanted to initiate a PDDRP against .xyz. While 474 domains is huge in the context of a single URS proceeding, it's a drop in the bucket compared to the 6 million (and dropping) domains registered in .xyz. Is 474 domains enough to file a PDDRP claim? Enough to win? What else would be needed, if this is not enough to win (or to file)? Greg On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 2:16 PM, jonathan matkowsky < jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net> wrote:
I totally agree. The blog post was interesting read, but really is a distraction from the issues.
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On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 9:12 PM, <trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com> wrote:
I don't see how it signifies anything - it's just one decision.
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On Jan 3, 2017, at 11:34 AM, Reg Levy <reg@mmx.co<mailto:reg@mmx.co>> wrote:
My point was that a matter was successfully brought under the RPMs (my point would stand for matters unsuccessfully brought under the RPMs). That cybersquatting exists is not in dispute. Nor is it our—or ICANN’s—job to cause cybersquatting to no longer exist. The matter was a URS, which was a new-to-new-gTLDs RPM and (supposedly) cheaper than the UDRP.
If this does not signify that RPMs work, does it signify that they do not?
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On 3 Jan 2017, at 10:30, Kiran Malancharuvil via gnso-rpm-wg < gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org>> wrote:
Agree with Doug and Marc, I would be curious to understand the thinking further.
Also, it will be interesting to see what happens to all of these names when the suspension period is over.
K
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On Jan 3, 2017, at 10:27 AM, "trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com<mailto: trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com>" <trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com<mailto: trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com>> wrote:
Agreed. How does one large URS filling indicate that the RPMs are working?
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On Jan 3, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Doug Isenberg <disenberg@gigalawfirm.com<mai lto:disenberg@gigalawfirm.com><mailto:disenberg@gigalawfirm.com>> wrote:
As the author of the blog post that Phil shared, I disagree with Reg’s conclusion below (and am quite unsure how that conclusion was reached). This URS case is interesting because its size makes it unusual (and, indeed, unprecedented). It is not indicative of any trend about RPMs in general or the URS in particular. If anything, it is a reminder that there are many domain name registrants – even in the new gTLDs – who continue to engage in cybersquatting on a large-scale, despite the RPMs such as the URS.
Sincerely yours,
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<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@ic ann.org] On Behalf Of Reg Levy Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 12:56 PM To: Philip S. Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com<mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com><mailto: psc@vlaw-dc.com>> Cc: gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org><mailto:g nso-rpm-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Largest URS Filing/Decision in History
Which seems to indicate that the current RPMs are working.
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On 3 Jan 2017, at 09:34, Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com<mailto:psc@vl aw-dc.com><mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com>> wrote:
FYI, on December 21, 2016 NAF suspended 474 DN variants of Ashley Furniture in a single URS filing.
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