I have to agree with Reg here. One argument I've heard against URS working is that it is underutilized, and cases like this seem to undermine that argument (although no single case or outcome should be considered dispositive). Jonathan Jonathan Frost General Counsel Telephone: (+1)877-707-5752 100 SE 3rd Avenue, #1310 Fort Lauderdale, FL 33394 E-Mail: <mailto:jonathan@get.club> jonathan@get.club Website: <http://www.get.club/> www.get.club <https://app.getsignals.com/link?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.nic.club%2f&ukey=agxzf nNpZ25hbHNjcnhyGAsSC1VzZXJQcm9maWxlGICAgMCxgJ8KDA&k=00a65763b45344369d292997 60b3ae45> Please be advised that this communication is confidential. The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments, may also be attorney-client privileged and/or work product confidential. 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Nor is it our-or ICANN's-job to cause cybersquatting to no longer exist. The matter was a URS, which was a new-to-new-gTLDs RPM and (supposedly) cheaper than the UDRP. If this does not signify that RPMs work, does it signify that they do not? Reg Levy VP Compliance + Policy | Minds + Machines Group Limited C: +1-310-963-7135 S: RegLevy2 Current UTC offset: -8 On 3 Jan 2017, at 10:30, Kiran Malancharuvil via gnso-rpm-wg <gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> > wrote: Agree with Doug and Marc, I would be curious to understand the thinking further. Also, it will be interesting to see what happens to all of these names when the suspension period is over. K Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor 415-419-9138 (m) Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. On Jan 3, 2017, at 10:27 AM, "trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com <mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com> " <trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com <mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com> > wrote: Agreed. How does one large URS filling indicate that the RPMs are working? Best Regards, Marc H.Trachtenberg Shareholder Greenberg Traurig, LLP 77 West Wacker Drive Chicago, IL 60601 Office (312) 456-1020 Mobile (773) 677-3305 On Jan 3, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Doug Isenberg <disenberg@gigalawfirm.com <mailto:disenberg@gigalawfirm.com> <mailto:disenberg@gigalawfirm.com>> wrote: As the author of the blog post that Phil shared, I disagree with Reg's conclusion below (and am quite unsure how that conclusion was reached). This URS case is interesting because its size makes it unusual (and, indeed, unprecedented). It is not indicative of any trend about RPMs in general or the URS in particular. If anything, it is a reminder that there are many domain name registrants - even in the new gTLDs - who continue to engage in cybersquatting on a large-scale, despite the RPMs such as the URS. Sincerely yours, Douglas M. 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Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com <mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com> <mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com>> Cc: gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Largest URS Filing/Decision in History Which seems to indicate that the current RPMs are working. Reg Levy VP Compliance + Policy | Minds + Machines Group Limited C: +1-310-963-7135 S: RegLevy2 Current UTC offset: -8 On 3 Jan 2017, at 09:34, Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com <mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com> <mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com>> wrote: FYI, on December 21, 2016 NAF suspended 474 DN variants of Ashley Furniture in a single URS filing. 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