May 2020 - GNSO-RPMs-WG-SGA

Re: [GNSO-RPMs-WG-SGA] [Ext] RPM PDP Sub Group A - call for Chair
by Julie Hedlund May 29, 2020

May 29, 2020

Dear David, Thank you very much for volunteering as Sub Group A chair! In our actions and notes from today’s meeting we’ll mention that you have volunteered and ask if there are other volunteers or if anyone wishes to comment. Our goal will be to start next week’s meeting with a chair in place if possible. Kind regards, Mary, Ariel, and Julie From: "McAuley, David" <dmcauley(a)Verisign.com> Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 at 11:28 AM To: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund(a)icann.org> Cc: "gnso-rpms-wg-sga(a)icann.org" <gnso-rpms-wg-sga(a)icann.org> Subject: [Ext] RPM PDP Sub Group A - call for Chair Dear Julie, As mentioned on today’s Sub Group A call, I would be willing to volunteer as Sub Group A chair once I had a chance to consider it after the call and checking what other obligations I have in the coming weeks. Having now done that, I am willing to act as chair if the members agree. Maybe we can mention it on next week’s call to see if others want to apply or have a comment. And again, many thanks to you, Ariel, and Mary for leading the call during today’s meeting. Best regards David David McAuley Sr International Policy & Business Development Manager Verisign Inc. 703-948-4154

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Proposed Agenda -- GNSO RPMs PDP WG Sub Group A -- Tuesday, 02 June 2020 at 1300 UTC
by Julie Hedlund May 26, 2020

May 26, 2020

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Actions -- RPMs PDP WG Sub Group A Meeting -- 26 May 2020 at 1300 UTC
by Julie Hedlund May 26, 2020

May 26, 2020

Dear Sub Group A members, Please see below the actions from the meeting on 26 May 2020 at 1300 UTC. These high-level notes are designed to help WG members navigate through the content of the call and are not a substitute for the recording, transcript, or the chat, which will be posted at: https://community.icann.org/display/RARPMRIAGPWG/2020-05-26+RPM+Sub+Group+A. Kind regards, Mary, Ariel, and Julie Actions: TMCH Recommendation #1: ACTION ITEM: Consider whether clarifying language is necessary for item #3. Sunrise Recommendation #1: ACTION ITEM: Staff to review the record to determine if the WG has previously discussed “spanning the dot” proposals. ACTION ITEM: Determine based on previous WG discussions whether it’s necessary to prepare clarifying questions for CORE. Notes: 1. Updates to Statements of Interest: No updates provided. 2. Reviewing Public Comments – See: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xMehg9o44bdz85ry0LJvhzoOaKdmJ6SwIrL… [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spread…>, see the links in the Table of Contents [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spread…> in the first tab and below: a. TMCH Recommendation #1 – tab link “TMCH Rec1 [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spread…>” -- Support for Recommendation #1, maintaining the status quo, with perhaps some clarification of the language for item #3. ACTION ITEM: Consider whether clarifying language is necessary for item #3. b. Sunrise Recommendation #1 – tab link “Sunrise Rec1 [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spread…>” Re: CORE comment: “For community based-TLDs and for geographically oriented TLDs, the following possibility should be allowed: smd label when equal to sld+TLD should be allowed (eg. the smd "RealMadrid" should allow for sunrise registration "real.madrid" or "BBCRadio" as a sunrise registration for "bbc.radio") in case the relevant Registry Operators wish to allow such registrations.” Discussion: -- Possible new idea. -- Broad community support for the recommendation. -- Consider taking back to the full WG, but as applied to all TLDs. -- How would this be implemented? Would it be technically feasible? -- The WG had a discussion with ICANN GDD in Nov 2018 where how the TMCH deals with “spanning the dot” was raised. -- WG also considered a proposal on “spanning the dot” and that proposal did not receive support to be included for public comment. -- Consider asking clarifying questions of CORE. -- Staff should review whether the WG has previously discussed “spanning the dot” proposals. ACTION ITEM: Staff to review the record to determine if the WG has previously discussed “spanning the dot” proposals. ACTION ITEM: Determine based on previous WG discussions whether it’s necessary to prepare clarifying questions for CORE. c. Sunrise Recommendation #2 – tab link “Sunrise Rec2 [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spread…>” RE: CPH comments: “The phrasing "effect of circumventing RPMs or restricting use of Sunrise” is much too vague to be implemented; the language must more precisely set forth what conduct may be curbed.” Discussion: -- Several commenters said the recommendation is too vague. -- Some said that they would support it if it was narrowed to Premium Names. -- Look at IPC comment under TM-PDDRP. -- See context at: https://community.icann.org/x/wCGJBw (note all recommendations/proposals with their context are listed here: https://community.icann.org/x/XCCJBw) “Context: The Working Group is uncertain about the scope and extent of abuses of the Sunrise Period. Some Working Group members noted abuses such as discriminatory pricing and unfair business practices related to Registry Operators, as well as anecdotal evidence of trademark owners using questionable means to gain priority for the Sunrise Period. Some Working Group members suspected that trademark owners may have the potential to abuse Sunrise due to TMCH’s acceptance of non-standard character claim marks and common/dictionary words, as well as the broad scope of registration within the TMCH. However, there is a lack of concrete evidence to substantiate the suspicion.” -- If this is going to be taken forward then there has to be engagements with the CPH and ICANN Org on a workable standard. -- It was never the intention for this language to be implementable. -- Sub Group will continue the discussion for the next meeting.

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Sunrise Rec #2 follow-up
by Susan Payne May 26, 2020

May 26, 2020

Hi Mary Thanks so much for your input on the Sub Group A call today. Would you be able to provide some clarification to the comments you made right at the end of the call about ICANN Org’s input on Sunrise Rec #2 please? I went back to the recording, to be sure I hadn’t misheard you, and you commented that Org was saying “give us more detail about how you think this recommendation will work in the specific context of Spec 7, particularly section 1 of Spec 7, because it’s possible that some could read this as contrary to section 1”. I had not understood Org’s comments in that way, but rather that, if this recommendation stands, then Org is expressing the need for this to be implemented with sufficient specificity to enable them to enforce it. I have looked back at Spec 7 section 1 (https://newgtlds.icann.org/sites/default/files/agreements/agreement-approve…) which requires the RO to implement the mandatory RPMs and permits them to implement additional self-adopted RPMs. I cannot immediately see where or how a recommendation from this WG that ROs be under a contractual obligation not to operate their TLD in a way which circumvents the mandatory RPMs would be inconsistent/contrary to Spec 7 section 1. Can you please clarify what the concern is? Many thanks Susan Susan Payne Head of Legal Policy Valideus M: +44 (0) 7971 661175 E: susan.payne(a)valideus.com <mailto:susan.payne@valideus.com> From: GNSO-RPMs-WG-SGA <gnso-rpms-wg-sga-bounces(a)icann.org> On Behalf Of Nathalie Peregrine Sent: 26 May 2020 15:55 To: gnso-rpms-wg-sga(a)icann.org Cc: gnso-secs(a)icann.org Subject: [GNSO-RPMs-WG-SGA] Post Call | RPMs SGA | Tuesday, 20 May 2020 Dear all, All recordings for the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) in all gTLDS Sub Group A call held on Tuesday, 26 May 2020 at 13:00 UTC can be found on the agenda wiki page <https://community.icann.org/display/RARPMRIAGPWG/2020-05-26+RPM+Sub+Group+A>(attendance included) and the GNSO Master calendar <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_group…> . These include: * Attendance (please let me know if your name has been left off the attendance list) * Audio recording * Zoom chat archive * Zoom recording (including audio, visual, rough transcript) * Transcript As a reminder only members can join the call, observers can listen to the recordings and read the transcript afterwards. Please email gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> if you would like to change your status from observer to member. For additional information, you may consult the mailing list archives <https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpms-wg-sga/> and the main wiki page<https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=136118869>. Thank you. 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RPM PDP Sub Group A - call for Chair
by McAuley, David May 26, 2020

May 26, 2020

Dear Julie, As mentioned on today's Sub Group A call, I would be willing to volunteer as Sub Group A chair once I had a chance to consider it after the call and checking what other obligations I have in the coming weeks. Having now done that, I am willing to act as chair if the members agree. Maybe we can mention it on next week's call to see if others want to apply or have a comment. And again, many thanks to you, Ariel, and Mary for leading the call during today's meeting. Best regards David David McAuley Sr International Policy & Business Development Manager Verisign Inc. 703-948-4154

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Post Call | RPMs SGA | Tuesday, 20 May 2020
by Nathalie Peregrine May 26, 2020

May 26, 2020

Dear all, All recordings for the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) in all gTLDS Sub Group A call held on Tuesday, 26 May 2020 at 13:00 UTC can be found on the agenda wiki page <https://community.icann.org/display/RARPMRIAGPWG/2020-05-26+RPM+Sub+Group+A>(attendance included) and the GNSO Master calendar <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_group…> . These include: * Attendance (please let me know if your name has been left off the attendance list) * Audio recording * Zoom chat archive * Zoom recording (including audio, visual, rough transcript) * Transcript As a reminder only members can join the call, observers can listen to the recordings and read the transcript afterwards. Please email gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> if you would like to change your status from observer to member. For additional information, you may consult the mailing list archives <https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpms-wg-sga/> and the main wiki page<https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=136118869>. Thank you. With kind regards, Nathalie Nathalie Peregrine Manager, Operations Support (GNSO) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Skype: nathalie.peregrine.icann Find out more about the GNSO by visiting: https://learn.icann.org/ <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__learn.icann.org_&d=DwM…> Follow @GNSO on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ICANN_GNSO <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_ICANN-5FGN…> Transcripts and recordings of GNSO Working Group and Council events are located on the GNSO Master Calendar <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_grou…>

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Proposed Agenda -- GNSO RPMs PDP WG Sub Group A -- Tuesday, 26 May 2020 at 1300 UTC
by Julie Hedlund May 25, 2020

May 25, 2020

Dear Sub Group A members, Please find below the proposed agenda for the call on Tuesday, 26 May 2020 at 1300 UTC for 90 minutes. In preparation for this meeting, Sub Group members are requested to: 1. Familiarize themselves with the relevant sections of the Working Group Guidelines relating to the operation of sub teams. See https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/annex-1-g…, Section 2.2.1 Chair, pages 4-5, Section 2.3 Use of Sub-Teams, page 6; and 3.3 Process Integrity, page 7, first paragraph. 2. Read the comments received on TMCH Recommendation #1, and Sunrise Recommendations #1 and #2 – click on the tab links: “TMCH Rec1<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xMehg9o44bdz85ry0LJvhzoOaKdmJ6SwIrL…>”, “Sunrise Rec1<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xMehg9o44bdz85ry0LJvhzoOaKdmJ6SwIrL…>”, and “Sunrise Rec2<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xMehg9o44bdz85ry0LJvhzoOaKdmJ6SwIrL…>” in the spreadsheet at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xMehg9o44bdz85ry0LJvhzoOaKdmJ6SwIrL…, or see the links in the Table of Contents<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xMehg9o44bdz85ry0LJvhzoOaKdmJ6SwIrL…> in the first tab. Proposed Agenda: 1. Review Agenda/Updates to Statements of Interest 2. Method of Operation (Working Group Guidelines<https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/annex-1-g…>) * Chair * Reporting to the full WG * Reviewing the Public Comments and Summary * Work Plan<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xMehg9o44bdz85ry0LJvhzoOaKdmJ6SwIrL…> 3. Reviewing Public Comments – See: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xMehg9o44bdz85ry0LJvhzoOaKdmJ6SwIrL…, see the links in the Table of Contents<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xMehg9o44bdz85ry0LJvhzoOaKdmJ6SwIrL…> in the first tab and below: * TMCH Recommendation #1 – tab link “TMCH Rec1<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xMehg9o44bdz85ry0LJvhzoOaKdmJ6SwIrL…>” * Sunrise Recommendation #1 – tab link “Sunrise Rec1<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xMehg9o44bdz85ry0LJvhzoOaKdmJ6SwIrL…>” * Sunrise Recommendation #2 – tab link “Sunrise Rec2<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xMehg9o44bdz85ry0LJvhzoOaKdmJ6SwIrL…>” 4. AOB If you need a dial out or would like to submit an apology, please email gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>. Kind regards, Mary, Ariel, and Julie

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Re: [GNSO-RPMs-WG-SGA] Scheduling Sub Group A Meetings
by Julie Hedlund May 21, 2020

May 21, 2020

Dear All, Welcome to Sub Group A, which will be reviewing comments for the TMCH, Sunrise, TM Claims, and TM-PDDRP recommendations and questions. See the work plan, second tab, at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PvkLsz4gQMXbkraeNq0iGjmwOJZsG9e7caN…. Per the Work Plan Sub Group A will meet weekly for 90 minutes on Tuesdays. The first meeting will be scheduled on Tuesday, 26 May. Staff has reviewed the ICANN schedule for conflicting meetings as well as the time zone distribution of the members of the Sub Group. Given these constraints, the least conflicted time to hold the meeting that works reasonably well for all time zones appears to be: 1300-14:30 UTC on Tuesday, 26 May Unless there are any objections, we’ll send out the meeting invite and agenda tomorrow for the above-mentioned time. Kind regards, Mary, Ariel, and Julie

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