Thanks Marika. This sounds good to me. I have also been thinking that it might be helpful to have some criteria we could use to evaluate proposed principles. I will try to take a stab at some later today if I have time. Chuck From: Marika Konings [mailto:marika.konings@icann.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 9:57 AM To: Gomes, Chuck; Shatan, Gregory S.; 'Nic Steinbach' Cc: gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org Subject: Deadline for input and doodle poll to schedule next meeting Based on your feedback received to date, let's set Tuesday 10 December as a deadline for sub-team input on the draft principles based on the first draft developed by Chuck, taking into account the other background materials (see https://community.icann.org/x/AimfAg). In order to schedule a call to discuss the feedback received and possibly finalise the working principles for review by the WG, please complete the following doodle poll: http://www.doodle.com/cdw5v5iee4uzuhyr. Thanks, Marika From: <Gomes>, Chuck Gomes <cgomes@verisign.com<mailto:cgomes@verisign.com>> Date: Monday 2 December 2013 18:52 To: "Shatan, Gregory S." <GShatan@reedsmith.com<mailto:GShatan@reedsmith.com>>, 'Nic Steinbach' <nic@name.com<mailto:nic@name.com>>, Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org<mailto:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org>" <gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org<mailto:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl] Scheduling first meeting of the PI Working Principles Sub-Team I am okay with any of the dates mentioned except December 8th which is a Sunday. I also am happy to start the discussion on the list. I look forward to responses, additions, etc. to the principles I suggested. Chuck From: gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Shatan, Gregory S. Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 11:48 AM To: 'Nic Steinbach'; Marika Konings Cc: gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org<mailto:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl] Scheduling first meeting of the PI Working Principles Sub-Team Agree on all points below. Greg From:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl-bounces@icann.org>[mailto:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl-bounces@icann.org]<mailto:[mailto:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl-bounces@icann.org]>On Behalf Of Nic Steinbach Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 9:22 AM To: Marika Konings Cc: gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org<mailto:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl] Scheduling first meeting of the PI Working Principles Sub-Team Hi Marika, I am sorry for the delay. I suspect that like myself some others on this thread may have been on holiday last week. I have completed the Doodle Poll, but like your second proposal a bit more. My only suggestion would be that we move the Thursday Day 12 date up a bit (Dec 8 or Dec 10) to ensure that we have all had time to review and potentially respond to each other's feedback. Best, Nic On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 2:59 AM, Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org>> wrote: Chuck, thank you very much for kicking this off. All, please note that so far there have only been two responses to the doodle poll. That doesn't seem sufficient to confirm a meeting. Would you prefer to start working on this on the mailing list? Chuck's document seems a good starting point. Maybe we could forego a call for now but set a deadline by when sub-team members are expected to comment on the draft provided by Chuck (taking into account the documents to be reviewed below)? How about Thursday 12 December? This would allow us then to schedule a call for the week of 16 December to possibly finalise the list of working principles? I look forward to receiving your feedback. Marika From: <Gomes>, Chuck Gomes <cgomes@verisign.com<mailto:cgomes@verisign.com>> Date: Monday 2 December 2013 02:47 To: Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org>>, "gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org<mailto:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org>" <gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org<mailto:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl] Scheduling first meeting of the PI Working Principles Sub-Team The attached list of principles is provided as a starting point for discussion for the P&I WG Principles sub-team. I developed most of them from a review of the references Marika provided below plus some of the early documents she provided to the WG. I also included one from the work of the P&I DT along with a couple of my own. As you will note in the introduction to the list "It is critical that these be critiqued freely and openly and that other principles are considered as well." Chuck From:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Marika Konings Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 5:10 AM To: gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org<mailto:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl] Scheduling first meeting of the PI Working Principles Sub-Team Dear All, Thank you for joining the deliverable 0B sub-team. As per the work plan, the objective of this sub team is to 'Derive from ICANN charters and materials "working principles" that should underpin GNSO Policy and Implementation-related discussions and determinations'. The sub-team is expected to develop these working principles by reviewing: ? What guidance do ICANN core values (Bylaws Article 1, Section 2 - http://www.icann.org/en/about/governance/bylaws#I) directly provide with regard to policy development work and policy implementation efforts? (e.g., multi-stakeholder participation) ? What guidance do other ICANN Core values provide that relate indirectly to policy development and policy implementation? (e.g., effective & timely processes) ? Questions for discussion contained in the Policy versus Implementation Draft Framework prepared by ICANN Staff ? Review GNSO WG Guidelines and PDP Manual to identify possible existing principles (explicitly or implicitly) ? Review proposed principles in staff discussion paper (see abstract attached) To date, the following WG members have volunteered for this sub-team: Greg Shatan, Cheryl Landon-Orr, Tim Ruiz, Tom Barrett, Alan Greenberg, Avri Doria, Chuck Gomes and Nic Steinbach. Would any of you be willing to take the lead for this sub-team? In order to schedule a time/date for a first meeting of this sub-team, please complete the following doodle poll: http://www.doodle.com/v8kyx4evuri69thx. 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