All, We have discussed some of the issues with NCSG, and here are some points they raised: 1. Transfer fee: NCSG is asking whether there are recorded cases of registrars charging for doing transfers and if we can find a few policies that mention transfer fee. 2. Adding abuse: we are still discussing this but we wanted to ask whether it is not at all possible to just provide a list of abusive conduct that can lead to denial of transfer instead of mentioning fraud or abuse. 3. Identity: as much as possible we need to leave whatever mentions of "identity" of domain name registrants in the transfer policy and come up with alternative terms that can meet our objectives but do not require identification of domain name registrant. I am so sorry I have weekly schedule conflicts with the meetings of this group but with Wisdom we catch up and be engaged. Best regards, Farzaneh