Gustavo, We too agree that removing white spaces would limit the opportunity for validation issues. We certainly had to go through some struggles to validate the test SMDs because of how the parsers were treating white spaces by default. We will support both signed and encoded signed marks. Cheers, Ben From: tmch-tech-bounces@icann.org [mailto:tmch-tech-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Gustavo Lozano Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 10:29 AM To: Gould, James Cc: tmch-tech@icann.org; gtld-tech@icann.org Subject: Re: [tmch-tech] Test SMDs files now available James, Let me discuss this with the development team, but before, I want to have feedback from the community about the following: I suppose that also the carriage returns should be eliminated and not only white spaces. This will create big lines (between 8K and 16K bytes). Does anyone foresee implementation problems with big lines of text? Has anyone have had success in using the test SMD XML (with the white spaces and carriage returns) in their EPP implementations including client libraries? Even without whitespaces and carriage returns there is still risk that implementations may break the signature if precautions are not taken. One possibility for mitigating this problem is requiring Registrars to send the base64-encoded blob from the SMD file (decoding base64 sounds cheaper than customer support). I have received questions about the use of <smd:signedMark> vs <smd:encodedSignedMark> in EPP. My question to all of you is: How many of you will require <smd:signedMark>-only by policy? How many of you will require <smd:encodedSignedMark>-only by policy? How many of you will support both? Thank you, Gustavo From: <Gould>, James <JGould@verisign.com<mailto:JGould@verisign.com>> Date: Saturday, August 3, 2013 7:33 AM To: Gustavo Lozano <gustavo.lozano@icann.org<mailto:gustavo.lozano@icann.org>> Cc: "tmch-tech@icann.org<mailto:tmch-tech@icann.org>" <tmch-tech@icann.org<mailto:tmch-tech@icann.org>>, "gtld-tech@icann.org<mailto:gtld-tech@icann.org>" <gtld-tech@icann.org<mailto:gtld-tech@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [tmch-tech] Test SMDs files now available Gustavo, In reviewing the sample SMD's I notice that the decoded signed marks are pretty printed with spaces. I recommend that no spaces be used with the signed marks since it introduces additional risk of validation errors. The spaces do not add any value since they are base64 encoded and software could pretty print the XML if needed outside of the validation flow. JG James F. Gould Principal Engineer Verisign jgould@verisign.com<mailto:jgould@verisign.com> On Jul 16, 2013, at 1:41 AM, "Gustavo Lozano" <gustavo.lozano@icann.org<mailto:gustavo.lozano@icann.org>> wrote: Colleagues, Information about the recently published test SMDs files can be found in the following link: http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/about/trademark-clearinghouse/smd-test-reposito... The different parties involved in the TMCH project have developed test SMDs files in order to obtain feedback from the community and assist implementers of the SMD technology in testing their own implementations. These test SMDs files have been generated using the same models of HSMs (ICANN-TMCH-CA and TMV) that are going to be used in production. The code used to generate them is the latest version of the TMCH code developed by the different parties involved in the TMCH project. These test SMDs files should cover the different test cases and comply with http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lozano-tmch-smd-02 We appreciate your feedback no later than July 23, please test them and send your feedback to the mailing list or to me privately. We understand that this is a short period of time and any bug found after this date will be corrected, but it is extremely helpful if you could send your feedback before this date. Note: These test SMDs files include the TMV and CA certificate embedded in the XML, new test SMDs files are going to be generated soon in order to remove the CA certificate. The inclusion of the CA certificate in the SMD file should not have an impact on the tests performed with these SMDs files. Thank you, Gustavo ________________________________ Please NOTE: This electronic message, including any attachments, may include privileged, confidential and/or inside information owned by Demand Media, Inc. Any distribution or use of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by replying to this message and then delete it from your system. Thank you.