Dear All, Please find the updated version 3.4 of the document, with the suggested changes incorporated. Regards, Sarmad From: Idngwg [mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Sarmad Hussain Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 8:27 PM To: Feher, Kal <Kalman.Feher@team.neustar>; Tan Tanaka, Dennis <dtantanaka@verisign.com>; idngwg@icann.org Subject: Re: [Idngwg] [EXTERNAL] Re: Harmonization of Variant Sets Thank you Dennis and Kal. If there is no further feedback on this, I will update the guidelines by removing the yellow highlighted portions shared earlier, removing the same-script requirement. We can finalize during the call tomorrow. Regards, Sarmad From: Feher, Kal [mailto:Kalman.Feher@team.neustar] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 6:20 AM To: Tan Tanaka, Dennis <dtantanaka@verisign.com<mailto:dtantanaka@verisign.com>>; Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain@icann.org<mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org>>; idngwg@icann.org<mailto:idngwg@icann.org> Subject: [Ext] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Idngwg] Harmonization of Variant Sets I agree that removing the "same script|particular script" qualifiers will correctly convey the intent for guideline 13. I think that guideline 17 complements the harmonisation advice by ensuring that confusables, including pre-composed/decomposed representations, are considered across scripts. My reading of TR39 suggests that the two cases described would be covered in principle. -- Kal Feher Melbourne, Australia Neustar From: Idngwg <idngwg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of "idngwg@icann.org<mailto:idngwg@icann.org>" <idngwg@icann.org<mailto:idngwg@icann.org>> Reply-To: "Tan Tanaka, Dennis" <dtantanaka@verisign.com<mailto:dtantanaka@verisign.com>> Date: Wednesday, 18 April 2018 at 05:27 To: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain@icann.org<mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org>>, "idngwg@icann.org<mailto:idngwg@icann.org>" <idngwg@icann.org<mailto:idngwg@icann.org>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Idngwg] Harmonization of Variant Sets Another way to look at this (at least I do) is to consider two uses cases: -use case 1: two (or more) IDN tables, same script -use case 2: two (or more) IDN tables, different scripts The core of the guideline is to harmonize variant rules (i.e. ensure symmetry and transitivity) across all IDN tables under a TLD. I think we were thinking Japanese and Chinese (at least I was) when we discussed the detail and final language. I don’t think it was our intention to discriminate same script vs cross-script. In this sense, it make sense to remove the “same script” qualifier. -Dennis From: Idngwg <idngwg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain@icann.org<mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org>> Date: Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 8:46 AM To: "idngwg@icann.org<mailto:idngwg@icann.org>" <idngwg@icann.org<mailto:idngwg@icann.org>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Idngwg] Harmonization of Variant Sets Dear All, As discussed in the call today, here is a brief document discussing the harmonization of variant sets. The “same-script IDN tables” in the guidelines allows for the examples in the document. Additional guidelines on cross-script labels would prevent cross-script issues implicitly. However, if the WG considers to make it explicit, it could be done by, for example, removing the yellow highlighted text in the attached document. Regards, Sarmad