Dear IOTF members, During today's CWG meeting #88 (18 August at 06:00 UTC), it was requested by CWG and Sidley that IOTF review the Schedule A of the attached ICANN-PTI Services Agreement. As such, I am sending you the Services Agreement as well as Sidley's notes about the Agreement. Today's CWG call recording where the request was made can be found here: <https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p6fvs9tegl2/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=2edd84f04d82a2e 5c09303a5a3afb38728cb286cf510c1fcd31bc41c7abd6969> https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p6fvs9tegl2/ Please also note that the intention is to re-discuss this Services Agreement during the next CWG call on 25 August at 14:00 UTC. Regards, Yuko Green Strategic Programs Manager Global Domains Division Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct Line: +1 310 578 8693 Mobile: +1 310 745 1517 E-mail: <mailto:yuko.green@icann.org> yuko.green@icann.org <http://www.icann.org/> www.icann.org
Sidley is asking for a confidentiality clause to be added. This implies that there is confidential information presently held by ICANN that needs to be transferred to PTI and the returned to ICANN at the end of the series agreement.I expect PTI to operate in an open and transparent manner. Other than personnel information, I cannot imagine what confidential information this might cover, and that does not seem to be the kind of information that would go back to ICANN. So, I am not sure what this is intended to protect. Russ On Aug 18, 2016, at 4:04 AM, Yuko Green <yuko.green@icann.org> wrote:
Dear IOTF members,
During today’s CWG meeting #88 (18 August at 06:00 UTC), it was requested by CWG and Sidley that IOTF review the Schedule A of the attached ICANN-PTI Services Agreement. As such, I am sending you the Services Agreement as well as Sidley’s notes about the Agreement.
Today’s CWG call recording where the request was made can be found here: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p6fvs9tegl2/
Please also note that the intention is to re-discuss this Services Agreement during the next CWG call on 25 August at 14:00 UTC.
Regards,
Yuko Green Strategic Programs Manager Global Domains Division Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
Direct Line: +1 310 578 8693 Mobile: +1 310 745 1517 E-mail: yuko.green@icann.org www.icann.org
Russ, In the administration of the IANA Naming Function, we receive confidential government and business documents. There is an expectation from those customers of the IANA Naming Service that these documents are not published or redistributed. Best, — Elise From: <iotf-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> Date: Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 8:46 AM To: Yuko Green <yuko.green@icann.org> Cc: "iotf@icann.org" <iotf@icann.org> Subject: Re: [IOTF] Schedule A of the ICANN-PTI Services Agreement Sidley is asking for a confidentiality clause to be added. This implies that there is confidential information presently held by ICANN that needs to be transferred to PTI and the returned to ICANN at the end of the series agreement.I expect PTI to operate in an open and transparent manner. Other than personnel information, I cannot imagine what confidential information this might cover, and that does not seem to be the kind of information that would go back to ICANN. So, I am not sure what this is intended to protect. Russ On Aug 18, 2016, at 4:04 AM, Yuko Green <yuko.green@icann.org> wrote: Dear IOTF members, During today’s CWG meeting #88 (18 August at 06:00 UTC), it was requested by CWG and Sidley that IOTF review the Schedule A of the attached ICANN-PTI Services Agreement. As such, I am sending you the Services Agreement as well as Sidley’s notes about the Agreement. Today’s CWG call recording where the request was made can be found here: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p6fvs9tegl2/ Please also note that the intention is to re-discuss this Services Agreement during the next CWG call on 25 August at 14:00 UTC. Regards, Yuko Green Strategic Programs Manager Global Domains Division Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct Line: +1 310 578 8693 Mobile: +1 310 745 1517 E-mail: yuko.green@icann.org www.icann.org
Dear All, Just arrived from my vacation (which officially ends tomorrow :)) I am reading emails and catching up on CWG issues. Has there been any comments/input to this email? Best, Lise From: iotf-bounces@icann.org [mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Yuko Green Sent: 18 August 2016 10:05 To: iotf@icann.org Subject: [IOTF] Schedule A of the ICANN-PTI Services Agreement Dear IOTF members, During today's CWG meeting #88 (18 August at 06:00 UTC), it was requested by CWG and Sidley that IOTF review the Schedule A of the attached ICANN-PTI Services Agreement. As such, I am sending you the Services Agreement as well as Sidley's notes about the Agreement. Today's CWG call recording where the request was made can be found here: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p6fvs9tegl2/<https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p6fvs9tegl2/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=2edd84f04d82a2e5c09303a5a3afb38728cb286cf510c1fcd31bc41c7abd6969> Please also note that the intention is to re-discuss this Services Agreement during the next CWG call on 25 August at 14:00 UTC. Regards, Yuko Green Strategic Programs Manager Global Domains Division Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct Line: +1 310 578 8693 Mobile: +1 310 745 1517 E-mail: yuko.green@icann.org<mailto:yuko.green@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org/>
Lise, DT-O is reviewing some possible comments that I had hoped to send to the IOTF list but I am still waiting for feedback from a couple DT-O members. Elise has contributed very helpfully to the DT-O discussion. Chuck From: iotf-bounces@icann.org [mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Lise Fuhr Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 9:24 AM To: iotf@icann.org Subject: Re: [IOTF] Schedule A of the ICANN-PTI Services Agreement Dear All, Just arrived from my vacation (which officially ends tomorrow :)) I am reading emails and catching up on CWG issues. Has there been any comments/input to this email? Best, Lise From: iotf-bounces@icann.org<mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Yuko Green Sent: 18 August 2016 10:05 To: iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org> Subject: [IOTF] Schedule A of the ICANN-PTI Services Agreement Dear IOTF members, During today's CWG meeting #88 (18 August at 06:00 UTC), it was requested by CWG and Sidley that IOTF review the Schedule A of the attached ICANN-PTI Services Agreement. As such, I am sending you the Services Agreement as well as Sidley's notes about the Agreement. Today's CWG call recording where the request was made can be found here: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p6fvs9tegl2/<https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p6fvs9tegl2/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=2edd84f04d82a2e5c09303a5a3afb38728cb286cf510c1fcd31bc41c7abd6969> Please also note that the intention is to re-discuss this Services Agreement during the next CWG call on 25 August at 14:00 UTC. Regards, Yuko Green Strategic Programs Manager Global Domains Division Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct Line: +1 310 578 8693 Mobile: +1 310 745 1517 E-mail: yuko.green@icann.org<mailto:yuko.green@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org/>
Yuko, Thank-you for this. From the subsequent email chain, I see that there has been discussion of various points including possible input from DT-O. I have been through Sidley's issue list and inserted a series of possible CWG comments (attached). It would be helpful to understand if that issues list is still as it was on 18 August or if more recent work has moved it on. Assuming it is as it was on 18 August, then I propose that my list of responses be utilised as a strawman for the CWG responses. However, if it has move on and many of the issues are now resolved and closed, it will be helpful to know that and to possibly see a revised / shorter issues list. Jonathan From: Yuko Green [mailto:yuko.green@icann.org] Sent: 18 August 2016 09:05 To: iotf@icann.org Subject: [IOTF] Schedule A of the ICANN-PTI Services Agreement Dear IOTF members, During today's CWG meeting #88 (18 August at 06:00 UTC), it was requested by CWG and Sidley that IOTF review the Schedule A of the attached ICANN-PTI Services Agreement. As such, I am sending you the Services Agreement as well as Sidley's notes about the Agreement. Today's CWG call recording where the request was made can be found here: <https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p6fvs9tegl2/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=2edd84f04d82a2e 5c09303a5a3afb38728cb286cf510c1fcd31bc41c7abd6969> https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p6fvs9tegl2/ Please also note that the intention is to re-discuss this Services Agreement during the next CWG call on 25 August at 14:00 UTC. Regards, Yuko Green Strategic Programs Manager Global Domains Division Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct Line: +1 310 578 8693 Mobile: +1 310 745 1517 E-mail: <mailto:yuko.green@icann.org> yuko.green@icann.org <http://www.icann.org/> www.icann.org
Well done Jonathan. I am personally comfortable with all of your response and provide input on three of them below. Costs (5.1) DT-O didn't specifically review this clause or Sidley's comments but I think that the General Comment included with DT-O's comments on Schedule A may apply here: "Although not necessarily required to be in the Services Agreement, it is recommended that the PTI Operating Plan & Budget provide detailed costs for each of the Schedule A services. This will facilitate monitoring and evaluating PTI costs corresponding to Schedule A." I personally think that it might be helpful of invoices detailed costs by the services listed in Schedule A. That would make it easier for the community to not only monitor costs bust also to track fulfillment of the services. Termination by ICANN (8.2(b)) I am concerned with this wording in the clause as I think Sidley appears to be: "until PTI has obtained alternative services for the Services". It seems to me that in some circumstances it would be inappropriate for PTI to be responsible for obtaining alternative services. I agree that further discussion is needed on this. Schedule A Services I sent proposed comments from DT-O to the IOTF list today. Hope this is helpful. Please let me know if you have any questions. Chuck From: iotf-bounces@icann.org [mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Robinson Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 7:30 AM To: 'Yuko Green'; iotf@icann.org Subject: Re: [IOTF] Schedule A of the ICANN-PTI Services Agreement Yuko, Thank-you for this. From the subsequent email chain, I see that there has been discussion of various points including possible input from DT-O. I have been through Sidley's issue list and inserted a series of possible CWG comments (attached). It would be helpful to understand if that issues list is still as it was on 18 August or if more recent work has moved it on. Assuming it is as it was on 18 August, then I propose that my list of responses be utilised as a strawman for the CWG responses. However, if it has move on and many of the issues are now resolved and closed, it will be helpful to know that and to possibly see a revised / shorter issues list. Jonathan From: Yuko Green [mailto:yuko.green@icann.org] Sent: 18 August 2016 09:05 To: iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org> Subject: [IOTF] Schedule A of the ICANN-PTI Services Agreement Dear IOTF members, During today's CWG meeting #88 (18 August at 06:00 UTC), it was requested by CWG and Sidley that IOTF review the Schedule A of the attached ICANN-PTI Services Agreement. As such, I am sending you the Services Agreement as well as Sidley's notes about the Agreement. Today's CWG call recording where the request was made can be found here: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p6fvs9tegl2/<https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p6fvs9tegl2/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=2edd84f04d82a2e5c09303a5a3afb38728cb286cf510c1fcd31bc41c7abd6969> Please also note that the intention is to re-discuss this Services Agreement during the next CWG call on 25 August at 14:00 UTC. Regards, Yuko Green Strategic Programs Manager Global Domains Division Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct Line: +1 310 578 8693 Mobile: +1 310 745 1517 E-mail: yuko.green@icann.org<mailto:yuko.green@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org/>
Dear IOTF members, On behalf of the CWG Chairs, I'd like to ask that you review and provide any comments you may have to DT-O and Jonathan's e-mails regarding the Schedule A of the ICANN-PTI Services Agreement. Your comments are requested by 1600 UTC on 26 August, Friday. Regards, Yuko From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@verisign.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 7:33 AM To: jrobinson@afilias.info; Yuko Green <yuko.green@icann.org>; iotf@icann.org Subject: RE: [IOTF] Schedule A of the ICANN-PTI Services Agreement Well done Jonathan. I am personally comfortable with all of your response and provide input on three of them below. Costs (5.1) DT-O didn't specifically review this clause or Sidley's comments but I think that the General Comment included with DT-O's comments on Schedule A may apply here: "Although not necessarily required to be in the Services Agreement, it is recommended that the PTI Operating Plan & Budget provide detailed costs for each of the Schedule A services. This will facilitate monitoring and evaluating PTI costs corresponding to Schedule A." I personally think that it might be helpful of invoices detailed costs by the services listed in Schedule A. That would make it easier for the community to not only monitor costs bust also to track fulfillment of the services. Termination by ICANN (8.2(b)) I am concerned with this wording in the clause as I think Sidley appears to be: "until PTI has obtained alternative services for the Services". It seems to me that in some circumstances it would be inappropriate for PTI to be responsible for obtaining alternative services. I agree that further discussion is needed on this. Schedule A Services I sent proposed comments from DT-O to the IOTF list today. Hope this is helpful. Please let me know if you have any questions. Chuck From: iotf-bounces@icann.org <mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Robinson Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 7:30 AM To: 'Yuko Green'; iotf@icann.org <mailto:iotf@icann.org> Subject: Re: [IOTF] Schedule A of the ICANN-PTI Services Agreement Yuko, Thank-you for this. From the subsequent email chain, I see that there has been discussion of various points including possible input from DT-O. I have been through Sidley's issue list and inserted a series of possible CWG comments (attached). It would be helpful to understand if that issues list is still as it was on 18 August or if more recent work has moved it on. Assuming it is as it was on 18 August, then I propose that my list of responses be utilised as a strawman for the CWG responses. However, if it has move on and many of the issues are now resolved and closed, it will be helpful to know that and to possibly see a revised / shorter issues list. Jonathan From: Yuko Green [mailto:yuko.green@icann.org] Sent: 18 August 2016 09:05 To: iotf@icann.org <mailto:iotf@icann.org> Subject: [IOTF] Schedule A of the ICANN-PTI Services Agreement Dear IOTF members, During today's CWG meeting #88 (18 August at 06:00 UTC), it was requested by CWG and Sidley that IOTF review the Schedule A of the attached ICANN-PTI Services Agreement. As such, I am sending you the Services Agreement as well as Sidley's notes about the Agreement. Today's CWG call recording where the request was made can be found here: <https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p6fvs9tegl2/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=2edd84f04d82a2e 5c09303a5a3afb38728cb286cf510c1fcd31bc41c7abd6969> https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p6fvs9tegl2/ Please also note that the intention is to re-discuss this Services Agreement during the next CWG call on 25 August at 14:00 UTC. Regards, Yuko Green Strategic Programs Manager Global Domains Division Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct Line: +1 310 578 8693 Mobile: +1 310 745 1517 E-mail: <mailto:yuko.green@icann.org> yuko.green@icann.org <http://www.icann.org/> www.icann.org
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Elise Gerich -
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Yuko Green