On 20/10/2015 08:45, Novoa, Osvaldo wrote:
All, I don't like this proposal, I think that everybody that supplies a service should do it under the same conditions. I am not a lawyer so I can't evaluate what would be the consequences of subjecting lawyers to this requirements, but if there is no way around I would prefer not to regulate anything. What's your opinion? Best regards, Osvaldo
I think the basic P/P proposal is problematic, and this is an attempt to fix one of the most common instances of the problems with it, but one that just exposes that there is a more general underlying weakness. I do think it is unwise (I don't know whether it is impossible) for ICANN to try to regulate lawyers in this way. I share Osvaldo's dislike for a special exception for lawyers. Perhaps more importantly, I'm not at all sure that such an exception would be sufficient. So on balance I think Osvaldo's suggestion of "prefer not to regulate everything" is all we're left with. A more lengthy explanation of my reasoning follows. The main proosal aims to regulate (or, if you prefer to avoid that word, set requirements for) "proxy/privacy services". But what is a "proxy/privacy service"? In general, it is always possible for one person to authorise another person to do something on their behalf. This is, when analysed formally, often called doing that thing "by proxy". You will all be familiar, for example, with the situation where a person who is unable to attend a meeting themselves authorises another person to attend and vote on their behalf; this is commonly referred to giving that nominee "their proxy". Similarly, it is perfectly possible for a person (A) to authorise someone else (B) to go out and buy something for them. Again, we would say that Person B is acting as a proxy for Person A. In common law jurisdictions at least (and I assume elsewhere too) it is possible for Person A to give Person B a more generalised authorisation to act on their behalf. This is sometimes called "power of attorney". This is useful is Person A anticipates being absent, or incapacitated, or simply has such complex affairs that they need to rely on professional advisors. In general, people give such powers to lawyers, because they have professional skills in exercising them with care and diligence, and because they're always willing to perform them in return for a fee. But there is (under the law with which I am familiar at least) nothing that limits Person A so that he may only give his proxy or power of attorney to a lawyer: indeed, it is also very common to give such powers to a close family member. So having established that there is nothing unique to the domain name industry about the concept of proxy or power of attorney, let's look at what this means for this case. In the domain name industry, certain registrars offer to act as a proxy for registrants so as to conceal the name of the registrant from the public record. They call this a "privacy/proxy service". When done by registrars, it is done on an industrial scale, as a commercial service. It is, however, no different in principle to asking your lawyer to register a domain for you. Nor is it different in principle to asking your brother to register a domain for you. The P/P policy seeks to regulate (or place requirements on) those providing such services. Where the people in question are registrars, they're already part of the domain industry ecosystem, and it is somewhat practical for ICANN to exercise authority over them. However, if the policy only covers registrars, it is unlikely to be fully effective in its aims. Unfortunately, if ICANN tries to extend this to anyone who registers a domain on behalf of someone else, they are effectively not only trying to regulate lawyers/legal services, they are also effectively impinging on the general legal right to authorise someone else to act on your behalf. I'm not sure whether this is impossible, but it certainly does look like overreaching, and it does seem unwise and likely to provoke unforeseen consequences, risk of policy failure, and create the potential for litigation. That really doesn't sound like something we should be supporting. In that light, Osvaldo's suggestion of "prefer not to regulate anything" seems like the best course. -- Malcolm Hutty | tel: +44 20 7645 3523 Head of Public Affairs | Read the LINX Public Affairs blog London Internet Exchange | http://publicaffairs.linx.net/ London Internet Exchange Ltd 21-27 St Thomas Street, London SE1 9RY Company Registered in England No. 3137929 Trinity Court, Trinity Street, Peterborough PE1 1DA