i agree. any ideas on how to get on their agenda? i know people at ARIN, but it would be helpful to have some official air cover before i approached them. mikey On Aug 7, 2012, at 10:39 AM, "Anthony Harris" <harris@cabase.org.ar> wrote:

This is a truly excellent idea!

I can do the LACNIC meeting.

We could ask South Africa ISPA to help with Khartoum, perhaps.

Best

Tony Harris

----- Original Message ----- From: "MAEMURA Akinori" <maem@nic.ad.jp> To: <ispcp@icann.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 1:42 AM Subject: [ispcp] RIR meetings for ISPCP Outreach

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Dear Colleagues,

I will write the idea I mentioned yesterday's call for the clarity.

I suggested to use RIR meetings for ISPCP Outreach.

In terms of targeting, they have the perfect match. RIRs' members are ISPs or carriers who obtain IP numbers from RIRs.

In terms of logistics, a timeslot for the presentation is easy to obtain. RIR meetings usually have a session containing the reports from other RIRs, NRO and IANA. I don't find any big difficulty to have a 10 minutes slot for us to introducing ISPCP, while it is subject to the RIR's desicion.

I had a brief chat with APNIC people and had a positive response. If we agree, I will try APNIC to let us have it in the forthcoming meeting APNIC34 at Phnom Penh, in the last week of August.

fyi, the forthcoming RIR meetings are:

Aug 27-31: APNIC34 @ Phnom Penh Sept 24-28: RIPE65 @ Amsterdam Oct 24-26: ARIN30 @ Dallas Oct 29 - Nov 2: LACNIC18 @ Montevideo Nov 26-30: AfriNIC17 @ Khartoum, North Sudan

I have been long involved in the RIR arena for more than a decade and I suppose there are not many people who will get interested in gTLD policies and will have problems to understand GNSO process and what happens in ICANN arena. However RIR community apparently meet the criteria to participate in ISPCP, thus the very place for ISPCP to do some outreach activities.

If ICANN needs to have more people with the ISPs' stake, it will be good way to go.

With those said, I might have missed some points which might have already been dicussed here before. Let me know if you find any.

Thank you, Akinori

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this is great! i can help build the graphics for a presentation, brochure, handout, etc… On Aug 7, 2012, at 8:25 PM, MAEMURA Akinori <maem@nic.ad.jp> wrote:

Thank you very much everyone for your support on this idea.

I have the reach to the CEO and/or Comms Director of every RIR, then I think can do the "air cover", or even all coordination to have a timeslot in every RIR.

Let me start with APNIC and then apply it to the other RIRs.

Then we need to develop a slide. I have my own idea for the content which the RIR community people should want, but definitely need someone else with a firm ISPCP position to complete it.

Best, Akinori

In message <AAF87A91-238E-4F74-A25B-0FDD8DC755E7@haven2.com> "Re: [ispcp] RIR meetings for ISPCP Outreach" ""Mike O'Connor" <mike@haven2.com>" wrote:

| | i agree. | | any ideas on how to get on their agenda? i know people at ARIN, but it would be helpful to have some official air cover before i approached them. | | mikey | | | On Aug 7, 2012, at 10:39 AM, "Anthony Harris" <harris@cabase.org.ar> wrote: | | > | > This is a truly excellent idea! | > | > I can do the LACNIC meeting. | > | > We could ask South Africa ISPA to | > help with Khartoum, perhaps. | > | > Best | > | > Tony Harris | > | > ----- Original Message ----- From: "MAEMURA Akinori" <maem@nic.ad.jp> | > To: <ispcp@icann.org> | > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 1:42 AM | > Subject: [ispcp] RIR meetings for ISPCP Outreach | > | > | >> | >> Dear Colleagues, | >> | >> I will write the idea I mentioned yesterday's call for the clarity. | >> | >> I suggested to use RIR meetings for ISPCP Outreach. | >> | >> In terms of targeting, they have the perfect match. | >> RIRs' members are ISPs or carriers who obtain IP numbers from RIRs. | >> | >> In terms of logistics, a timeslot for the presentation is easy to obtain. | >> RIR meetings usually have a session containing the reports from other RIRs, NRO and IANA. I don't find any big difficulty to have a 10 minutes slot for us to introducing ISPCP, while it is subject to the RIR's desicion. | >> | >> I had a brief chat with APNIC people and had a positive response. If we agree, I will try APNIC to let us have it in the forthcoming meeting APNIC34 at Phnom Penh, in the last week of August. | >> | >> fyi, the forthcoming RIR meetings are: | >> | >> Aug 27-31: APNIC34 @ Phnom Penh | >> Sept 24-28: RIPE65 @ Amsterdam | >> Oct 24-26: ARIN30 @ Dallas | >> Oct 29 - Nov 2: LACNIC18 @ Montevideo | >> Nov 26-30: AfriNIC17 @ Khartoum, North Sudan | >> | >> | >> I have been long involved in the RIR arena for more than a decade and I suppose there are not many people who will get interested in gTLD policies and will have problems to understand GNSO process and what happens in ICANN arena. | >> However RIR community apparently meet the criteria to participate in ISPCP, thus the very place for ISPCP to do some outreach activities. | >> | >> If ICANN needs to have more people with the ISPs' stake, it will be good way to go. | >> | >> | >> With those said, I might have missed some points which might have already been dicussed here before. Let me know if you find any. | >> | >> | >> Thank you, | >> Akinori | >> | >> ----- | >> MAEMURA Akinori General Manager, Internet Development Dept. | >> maem@nic.ad.jp JPNIC - Japan Network Information Center | > | | - - - - - - - - - | phone 651-647-6109 | fax 866-280-2356 | web http://www.haven2.com | handle OConnorStP (ID for public places like Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc.) | | |

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Colleagues, It's been successfully accepted and I am surprised it can already be seen. http://conference.apnic.net/34/program/reports In this session there will be 10 presenters within 90 minutes, thus the time assigned is eight minutes, with one minute reserved for Q&A etc. The current title seen is tentative, and I am asked for the title and abstract. Here's my draft for your discussion ------------------------------------------------------------ Title: Invitation to ICANN GNSO ISPCP Abstract: ICANN GNSO ISPCP is one of constituencies within ICANN's Generic Names Supporting Organization, which considers gTLD policies. As ISPCP is for ISPs and carriers, many APNIC and broader community members are eligible to participate in. To develop a balanced policies for gTLDs, the more participation of those with ISP stake is needed. This presentation will give the overview of the constituency, GNSO and ICANN to invite the APNIC community to join it. ------------------------------------------------------------ Need fixes by executives and native speakers, please! Regards, Akinori In message <201208082137.BFH73414.FNBN@nic.ad.jp> "Re: [ispcp] RIR meetings for ISPCP Outreach" "MAEMURA Akinori <maem@nic.ad.jp>" wrote: | | Thank you Mikey! | | Akinori | | In message <567F0BF6-903F-481A-9A5B-68EFD9F3FBC2@haven2.com> | "Re: [ispcp] RIR meetings for ISPCP Outreach" | ""Mike O'Connor" <mike@haven2.com>" wrote: | | | | | this is great! i can help build the graphics for a presentation, brochure, handout, etc・ | | | | | | | On Aug 7, 2012, at 8:25 PM, MAEMURA Akinori <maem@nic.ad.jp> wrote: | | | | > | | > Thank you very much everyone for your support on this idea. | | > | | > I have the reach to the CEO and/or Comms Director of every RIR, then I think can do the "air cover", or even all coordination to have a timeslot in every RIR. | | > | | > Let me start with APNIC and then apply it to the other RIRs. | | > | | > Then we need to develop a slide. I have my own idea for the content which the RIR community people should want, but definitely need someone else with a firm ISPCP position to complete it. | | > | | > | | > Best, | | > Akinori | | > | | > | | > | | > | | > | | > | | > | | > | | > In message <AAF87A91-238E-4F74-A25B-0FDD8DC755E7@haven2.com> | | > "Re: [ispcp] RIR meetings for ISPCP Outreach" | | > ""Mike O'Connor" <mike@haven2.com>" wrote: | | > | | > | | | > | i agree. | | > | | | > | any ideas on how to get on their agenda? i know people at ARIN, but it would be helpful to have some official air cover before i approached them. | | > | | | > | mikey | | > | | | > | | | > | On Aug 7, 2012, at 10:39 AM, "Anthony Harris" <harris@cabase.org.ar> wrote: | | > | | | > | > | | > | > This is a truly excellent idea! | | > | > | | > | > I can do the LACNIC meeting. | | > | > | | > | > We could ask South Africa ISPA to | | > | > help with Khartoum, perhaps. | | > | > | | > | > Best | | > | > | | > | > Tony Harris | | > | > | | > | > ----- Original Message ----- From: "MAEMURA Akinori" <maem@nic.ad.jp> | | > | > To: <ispcp@icann.org> | | > | > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 1:42 AM | | > | > Subject: [ispcp] RIR meetings for ISPCP Outreach | | > | > | | > | > | | > | >> | | > | >> Dear Colleagues, | | > | >> | | > | >> I will write the idea I mentioned yesterday's call for the clarity. | | > | >> | | > | >> I suggested to use RIR meetings for ISPCP Outreach. | | > | >> | | > | >> In terms of targeting, they have the perfect match. | | > | >> RIRs' members are ISPs or carriers who obtain IP numbers from RIRs. | | > | >> | | > | >> In terms of logistics, a timeslot for the presentation is easy to obtain. | | > | >> RIR meetings usually have a session containing the reports from other RIRs, NRO and IANA. I don't find any big difficulty to have a 10 minutes slot for us to introducing ISPCP, while it is subject to the RIR's desicion. | | > | >> | | > | >> I had a brief chat with APNIC people and had a positive response. If we agree, I will try APNIC to let us have it in the forthcoming meeting APNIC34 at Phnom Penh, in the last week of August. | | > | >> | | > | >> fyi, the forthcoming RIR meetings are: | | > | >> | | > | >> Aug 27-31: APNIC34 @ Phnom Penh | | > | >> Sept 24-28: RIPE65 @ Amsterdam | | > | >> Oct 24-26: ARIN30 @ Dallas | | > | >> Oct 29 - Nov 2: LACNIC18 @ Montevideo | | > | >> Nov 26-30: AfriNIC17 @ Khartoum, North Sudan | | > | >> | | > | >> | | > | >> I have been long involved in the RIR arena for more than a decade and I suppose there are not many people who will get interested in gTLD policies and will have problems to understand GNSO process and what happens in ICANN arena. | | > | >> However RIR community apparently meet the criteria to participate in ISPCP, thus the very place for ISPCP to do some outreach activities. | | > | >> | | > | >> If ICANN needs to have more people with the ISPs' stake, it will be good way to go. | | > | >> | | > | >> | | > | >> With those said, I might have missed some points which might have already been dicussed here before. Let me know if you find any. | | > | >> | | > | >> | | > | >> Thank you, | | > | >> Akinori | | > | >> | | > | >> ----- | | > | >> MAEMURA Akinori General Manager, Internet Development Dept. | | > | >> maem@nic.ad.jp JPNIC - Japan Network Information Center | | > | > | | > | | | > | - - - - - - - - - | | > | phone 651-647-6109 | | > | fax 866-280-2356 | | > | web http://www.haven2.com | | > | handle OConnorStP (ID for public places like Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc.) | | > | | | > | | | > | | | | | - - - - - - - - - | | phone 651-647-6109 | | fax 866-280-2356 | | web http://www.haven2.com | | handle OConnorStP (ID for public places like Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc.) | | | | | | |

Thank you Mikey, this "slight" was substantial! Akinori In message <057D8B78-83FF-4328-BFC3-4890B1142B19@haven2.com> "Re: [Title and Abstruct] [ispcp] RIR meetings for ISPCP Outreach" ""Mike O'Connor" <mike@haven2.com>" wrote: | | hi Akinori, | | your draft looks great. here's a slightly-revised version… | | Internet Service Provider and Connectivity Providers (ISPCP) is one of the constituencies within ICANN's Generic Names Supporting Organization (the GNSO) and helps develop policies addressing the generic Top Level Domain (gTLD) namespace. Since the ISPCP constituency is for ISPs and carriers, many APNIC and broader community members are eligible to participate in ICANN policy-making through this organization. | | ISPs and carriers are profoundly impacted by changes to the gTLD namespace. For example, ICANN will soon be introducing as many as 1200 new top level domains into the root -- which may have interesting implications for your customer-facing support organization. Thus, broad and active participation in this constituency is essential to ensure that ICANN develop balanced policies for gTLDs that take the needs of ISPs and carriers into account. | | This presentation will provide an overview of ICANN, the GNSO and the ISPCP constituency. The conversation will be aimed at organizations who might be interested in joining the constituency and helping to shape ICANN policy. | | On Aug 9, 2012, at 2:29 AM, MAEMURA Akinori <maem@nic.ad.jp> wrote: | | > | > Colleagues, | > | > It's been successfully accepted and I am surprised it can already be seen. | > http://conference.apnic.net/34/program/reports | > In this session there will be 10 presenters within 90 minutes, thus the time assigned is eight minutes, with one minute reserved for Q&A etc. | > | > | > The current title seen is tentative, and I am asked for the title and abstract. | > | > Here's my draft for your discussion | > | > ------------------------------------------------------------ | > Title: | > Invitation to ICANN GNSO ISPCP | > | > Abstract: | > ICANN GNSO ISPCP is one of constituencies within ICANN's Generic Names Supporting Organization, which considers gTLD policies. | > As ISPCP is for ISPs and carriers, many APNIC and broader community members are eligible to participate in. | > To develop a balanced policies for gTLDs, the more participation of those with ISP stake is needed. | > This presentation will give the overview of the constituency, GNSO and ICANN to invite the APNIC community to join it. | > ------------------------------------------------------------ | > | > Need fixes by executives and native speakers, please! | > | > | > Regards, | > Akinori | > | > | > In message <201208082137.BFH73414.FNBN@nic.ad.jp> | > "Re: [ispcp] RIR meetings for ISPCP Outreach" | > "MAEMURA Akinori <maem@nic.ad.jp>" wrote: | > | > | | > | Thank you Mikey! | > | | > | Akinori | > | | > | In message <567F0BF6-903F-481A-9A5B-68EFD9F3FBC2@haven2.com> | > | "Re: [ispcp] RIR meetings for ISPCP Outreach" | > | ""Mike O'Connor" <mike@haven2.com>" wrote: | > | | > | | | > | | this is great! i can help build the graphics for a presentation, brochure, handout, etc・ | > | | > | | | > | | | > | | On Aug 7, 2012, at 8:25 PM, MAEMURA Akinori <maem@nic.ad.jp> wrote: | > | | | > | | > | > | | > Thank you very much everyone for your support on this idea. | > | | > | > | | > I have the reach to the CEO and/or Comms Director of every RIR, then I think can do the "air cover", or even all coordination to have a timeslot in every RIR. | > | | > | > | | > Let me start with APNIC and then apply it to the other RIRs. | > | | > | > | | > Then we need to develop a slide. I have my own idea for the content which the RIR community people should want, but definitely need someone else with a firm ISPCP position to complete it. | > | | > | > | | > | > | | > Best, | > | | > Akinori | > | | > | > | | > | > | | > | > | | > | > | | > | > | | > | > | | > | > | | > | > | | > In message <AAF87A91-238E-4F74-A25B-0FDD8DC755E7@haven2.com> | > | | > "Re: [ispcp] RIR meetings for ISPCP Outreach" | > | | > ""Mike O'Connor" <mike@haven2.com>" wrote: | > | | > | > | | > | | > | | > | i agree. | > | | > | | > | | > | any ideas on how to get on their agenda? i know people at ARIN, but it would be helpful to have some official air cover before i approached them. | > | | > | | > | | > | mikey | > | | > | | > | | > | | > | | > | On Aug 7, 2012, at 10:39 AM, "Anthony Harris" <harris@cabase.org.ar> wrote: | > | | > | | > | | > | > | > | | > | > This is a truly excellent idea! | > | | > | > | > | | > | > I can do the LACNIC meeting. | > | | > | > | > | | > | > We could ask South Africa ISPA to | > | | > | > help with Khartoum, perhaps. | > | | > | > | > | | > | > Best | > | | > | > | > | | > | > Tony Harris | > | | > | > | > | | > | > ----- Original Message ----- From: "MAEMURA Akinori" <maem@nic.ad.jp> | > | | > | > To: <ispcp@icann.org> | > | | > | > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 1:42 AM | > | | > | > Subject: [ispcp] RIR meetings for ISPCP Outreach | > | | > | > | > | | > | > | > | | > | >> | > | | > | >> Dear Colleagues, | > | | > | >> | > | | > | >> I will write the idea I mentioned yesterday's call for the clarity. | > | | > | >> | > | | > | >> I suggested to use RIR meetings for ISPCP Outreach. | > | | > | >> | > | | > | >> In terms of targeting, they have the perfect match. | > | | > | >> RIRs' members are ISPs or carriers who obtain IP numbers from RIRs. | > | | > | >> | > | | > | >> In terms of logistics, a timeslot for the presentation is easy to obtain. | > | | > | >> RIR meetings usually have a session containing the reports from other RIRs, NRO and IANA. I don't find any big difficulty to have a 10 minutes slot for us to introducing ISPCP, while it is subject to the RIR's desicion. | > | | > | >> | > | | > | >> I had a brief chat with APNIC people and had a positive response. If we agree, I will try APNIC to let us have it in the forthcoming meeting APNIC34 at Phnom Penh, in the last week of August. | > | | > | >> | > | | > | >> fyi, the forthcoming RIR meetings are: | > | | > | >> | > | | > | >> Aug 27-31: APNIC34 @ Phnom Penh | > | | > | >> Sept 24-28: RIPE65 @ Amsterdam | > | | > | >> Oct 24-26: ARIN30 @ Dallas | > | | > | >> Oct 29 - Nov 2: LACNIC18 @ Montevideo | > | | > | >> Nov 26-30: AfriNIC17 @ Khartoum, North Sudan | > | | > | >> | > | | > | >> | > | | > | >> I have been long involved in the RIR arena for more than a decade and I suppose there are not many people who will get interested in gTLD policies and will have problems to understand GNSO process and what happens in ICANN arena. | > | | > | >> However RIR community apparently meet the criteria to participate in ISPCP, thus the very place for ISPCP to do some outreach activities. | > | | > | >> | > | | > | >> If ICANN needs to have more people with the ISPs' stake, it will be good way to go. | > | | > | >> | > | | > | >> | > | | > | >> With those said, I might have missed some points which might have already been dicussed here before. Let me know if you find any. | > | | > | >> | > | | > | >> | > | | > | >> Thank you, | > | | > | >> Akinori | > | | > | >> | > | | > | >> ----- | > | | > | >> MAEMURA Akinori General Manager, Internet Development Dept. | > | | > | >> maem@nic.ad.jp JPNIC - Japan Network Information Center | > | | > | > | > | | > | | > | | > | - - - - - - - - - | > | | > | phone 651-647-6109 | > | | > | fax 866-280-2356 | > | | > | web http://www.haven2.com | > | | > | handle OConnorStP (ID for public places like Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc.) | > | | > | | > | | > | | > | | > | | > | | | > | | - - - - - - - - - | > | | phone 651-647-6109 | > | | fax 866-280-2356 | > | | web http://www.haven2.com | > | | handle OConnorStP (ID for public places like Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc.) | > | | | > | | | > | | | > | | | - - - - - - - - - | phone 651-647-6109 | fax 866-280-2356 | web http://www.haven2.com | handle OConnorStP (ID for public places like Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc.) | | |