Re: [Japanesegp] : [agenda] CJK+IP meeting at 9:00UTC on Thursday 10 March 2016
materials for discussion are attached to this mail ================================================== 10 Mar 2016 Proposed by Hiro [agenda] CJK coordination meeting on 10 Mar 2016 date/time March 10 2016 <part1> with IP 09:00-10:15 <part2> without IP 10:30-11:45 place Amandier room remote participation (to be confirmed) https://icann.adobeconnect.com/lgr/ participants (assumed to be) CGP on site : Chris Dillon remote : Wang Wei, Kenny Huang, Declan MA, Jiankang YAO JGP on site : Hiro Hotta, Yuri Takamatsu remote : Yoshiro Yoneya KGP on site : KIM Kyongsok, Eung-jun Jeon advisor : Edmon Chung IP on site : Michel Suignard, Marc Blanchet ICANN : Sarmad Hussain agenda <part1> 1. rationale of "the number of allocatable lables should be small" rationale is hoped to be described in writing - why small? - how small? - aspect of reduction + reduction of characters? + reduction of variant characters? + reduction of variant labels by WLE? + : 2. complement process for LGR what kind of process can be incorporated into the whole application evaluation process - JGP will give some hints regarding complement process for LGR ==) file "ComplementRootLGR.pptx" attached 3. AOB <part2> 1. action items review ==) pasted below 2. discussion between C/J/K - especially about the unacceptable variants stated by KGP 3. preparation for Beijing meeting date: 3/20 10:00-17:00 or 18:00 3/21 9:00-17:00 or 18:00 participants: (to be confirmed) CGP Wangwei, Declan Ma, Jiangkan Yao, Chris Dillon(remotely) JGP Hiro, Yoneya, Yuri, (Maemura; TBD) KGP Prof.Kim, KISA, Hanja professional ==) proposed agenda pasted "2016 March 20-21 CJK Coordination Meeting Agenda Update.docx" Hiro ------------------------------------------------------------------------ @@ action Item List [ICANN Dublin + Marrakech] as of 6/Mar/2016 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ D : from Dublin CJK meetings M : from Marrakech meetings If any progress has been made on the action item after 6 March, the status of the action item is shown on the line beginning with ==> D1. CGP will check and share the ratio of the labels which contain both traditional character and simplified character in .CN (and .TW) registration data to C and K. ==> done (Wang Wei provided the result to the mailing list) D3. Yoneya will re-write the name of the title from "Algorithm" to "Procedure" and add some explanation (especially regarding 'review') to the "Algorithm" (now "Procedure") document before Beijing Meeting. D4. Each of CJK GPswill share their own repertoire and variants in both XML and excel format. If GP doesn't have them in both formats, send them only in the existing format. D5. CJK will check and confirm the template of Root LGR proposal and ask for IP's advice if necessary step1: Yoneya will send the edited template to CJK mailing lists which includes differentiation mark <common> for CJK and <individual> for each GP step2: CJK will check the drafted template and confirm step3: ask for IP's advice if necessary D6. CGP will investigate and share the maximum number of labels that are variant of each other in .CN (and .TW) to CJK ML. ==> done (Wang Wei provided the result to the mailing list) D7. CGP and KGP will devise a joint statement and then KGP will consider whether to make a joint statement with C and J in KGP LGR proposal D10. Yoneya will draft a temporary schedule for each step of CJK integration procedure and send it to Kenny for his check. After that. Yoneya and Kenny will share it with CJK mailing lists to solicit their opinions about the schedule M1. Wang Wei will send first draft agenda of Beijing Meeting ==> done (Wang Wei provided a draft to the mailing list) M2. Edmon will provide to CGP/JGP/KGP an analysis document regarding possible scenarios for import and export of variants among 3 GPs before Beijing Meeting. (about 8-10 slides) [Edmon] M3. Hiro will send the confirmed time schedle of Beijing Meeting to the whole CJK GP's. date: 3/20 10:00-17:00 or 18:00 3/21 9:00-17:00 or 18:00 participant: (to be confirmed) CGP Wang Wei, Declan Ma, Jiangkan Yao, Chris (remotely) JGP Hiro, Yoneya, Yuri, (maemura; TBD) KGP Prof.Kim, KISA, Hanja professional M4. Hiro will check the environment of CJK Coordination Meeting planned on 10th March to Sarmad. + availability of Adobe connect + participation of IP + start time (9:00-10:15 or 10:30-11:45) ==> done (shown at the top of this mail) M5. Each of CJK GPs will consider whether each GP has other issues to be discussed other than coordination of variant definition among GPs. If there's some issues, share them to CJK mailing list by 9th March. ------------------------------------------------------------------------
What is going on right now? Only Wangwei and I are on the adobe connect room. Can someone in Marrakech give current status? Regards, -- Yoshiro YONEYA <yoshiro.yoneya@jprs.co.jp> On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:10:07 +0900 HiroHOTTA <hotta@jprs.co.jp> wrote:
materials for discussion are attached to this mail ==================================================
10 Mar 2016 Proposed by Hiro
[agenda] CJK coordination meeting on 10 Mar 2016
date/time March 10 2016 <part1> with IP 09:00-10:15 <part2> without IP 10:30-11:45
place Amandier room
remote participation (to be confirmed) https://icann.adobeconnect.com/lgr/
participants (assumed to be) CGP on site : Chris Dillon remote : Wang Wei, Kenny Huang, Declan MA, Jiankang YAO JGP on site : Hiro Hotta, Yuri Takamatsu remote : Yoshiro Yoneya KGP on site : KIM Kyongsok, Eung-jun Jeon advisor : Edmon Chung IP on site : Michel Suignard, Marc Blanchet ICANN : Sarmad Hussain
agenda
<part1>
1. rationale of "the number of allocatable lables should be small"
rationale is hoped to be described in writing - why small? - how small? - aspect of reduction + reduction of characters? + reduction of variant characters? + reduction of variant labels by WLE? + :
2. complement process for LGR
what kind of process can be incorporated into the whole application evaluation process
- JGP will give some hints regarding complement process for LGR ==) file "ComplementRootLGR.pptx" attached
3. AOB
<part2>
1. action items review
==) pasted below
2. discussion between C/J/K
- especially about the unacceptable variants stated by KGP
3. preparation for Beijing meeting
date: 3/20 10:00-17:00 or 18:00 3/21 9:00-17:00 or 18:00
participants: (to be confirmed) CGP Wangwei, Declan Ma, Jiangkan Yao, Chris Dillon(remotely) JGP Hiro, Yoneya, Yuri, (Maemura; TBD) KGP Prof.Kim, KISA, Hanja professional
==) proposed agenda pasted "2016 March 20-21 CJK Coordination Meeting Agenda Update.docx"
Hiro
------------------------------------------------------------------------ @@ action Item List [ICANN Dublin + Marrakech] as of 6/Mar/2016 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ D : from Dublin CJK meetings M : from Marrakech meetings
If any progress has been made on the action item after 6 March, the status of the action item is shown on the line beginning with ==>
D1. CGP will check and share the ratio of the labels which contain both traditional character and simplified character in .CN (and .TW) registration data to C and K. ==> done (Wang Wei provided the result to the mailing list)
D3. Yoneya will re-write the name of the title from "Algorithm" to "Procedure" and add some explanation (especially regarding 'review') to the "Algorithm" (now "Procedure") document before Beijing Meeting.
D4. Each of CJK GPswill share their own repertoire and variants in both XML and excel format. If GP doesn't have them in both formats, send them only in the existing format.
D5. CJK will check and confirm the template of Root LGR proposal and ask for IP's advice if necessary step1: Yoneya will send the edited template to CJK mailing lists which includes differentiation mark <common> for CJK and <individual> for each GP step2: CJK will check the drafted template and confirm step3: ask for IP's advice if necessary
D6. CGP will investigate and share the maximum number of labels that are variant of each other in .CN (and .TW) to CJK ML. ==> done (Wang Wei provided the result to the mailing list)
D7. CGP and KGP will devise a joint statement and then KGP will consider whether to make a joint statement with C and J in KGP LGR proposal
D10. Yoneya will draft a temporary schedule for each step of CJK integration procedure and send it to Kenny for his check. After that. Yoneya and Kenny will share it with CJK mailing lists to solicit their opinions about the schedule
M1. Wang Wei will send first draft agenda of Beijing Meeting ==> done (Wang Wei provided a draft to the mailing list)
M2. Edmon will provide to CGP/JGP/KGP an analysis document regarding possible scenarios for import and export of variants among 3 GPs before Beijing Meeting. (about 8-10 slides) [Edmon]
M3. Hiro will send the confirmed time schedle of Beijing Meeting to the whole CJK GP's. date: 3/20 10:00-17:00 or 18:00 3/21 9:00-17:00 or 18:00 participant: (to be confirmed) CGP Wang Wei, Declan Ma, Jiangkan Yao, Chris (remotely) JGP Hiro, Yoneya, Yuri, (maemura; TBD) KGP Prof.Kim, KISA, Hanja professional
M4. Hiro will check the environment of CJK Coordination Meeting planned on 10th March to Sarmad. + availability of Adobe connect + participation of IP + start time (9:00-10:15 or 10:30-11:45) ==> done (shown at the top of this mail)
M5. Each of CJK GPs will consider whether each GP has other issues to be discussed other than coordination of variant definition among GPs. If there's some issues, share them to CJK mailing list by 9th March.
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Homework1: The ratio of the labels which contain both traditional character and simplified character in .CN (and .TW) registration data. For .TW, due to the registration policy, no simp-trad-mixed labels are registered under .TW. For .CN, due to similar registration policy, 894903 domain names have only one label (simplified one and traditional one are the same), 486440 domain names have 2 variant labels (all simplified and all traditional), 508 domain names have 3 labels (original, all simplified and all traditional), so ratio is 508/(508+894903+486440)=0.04% As you see above, the registration policy will obviously restrict registrant to have mixed variant labels. Homework2: The maximum number of labels that are variant of each other in .CN (and .TW) For .TW, theoretically the maximum number of variant label number is 518440, belongs to a domain name whose label length is 19. ���������\����������Ӗ�����ʄt�lչ��.̨�� (xn--2qqy4es6a3a7zn3nttjpmbn81ar8lw0tkvvcgw53h2v1bgddmu8ada538w.xn--kpry57d) For .CN, theoretically the maximum number of variant label number is over 20,000,000, belongs to a domain name whose label length is 21. (CNNIC is reviewing the detailed document, might sent out later) -----�ʼ�ԭ��----- ������: chinesegp-bounces@icann.org [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org] �� �� HiroHOTTA ����ʱ��: 2016��3��10�� 11:10 �ռ���: ChineseGP@icann.org; JapaneseGP@icann.org; KoreanGP@icann.org ����: Re: [ChineseGP] : [agenda] CJK+IP meeting at 9:00UTC on Thursday 10 March 2016 materials for discussion are attached to this mail ================================================== 10 Mar 2016 Proposed by Hiro [agenda] CJK coordination meeting on 10 Mar 2016 date/time March 10 2016 <part1> with IP 09:00-10:15 <part2> without IP 10:30-11:45 place Amandier room remote participation (to be confirmed) https://icann.adobeconnect.com/lgr/ participants (assumed to be) CGP on site : Chris Dillon remote : Wang Wei, Kenny Huang, Declan MA, Jiankang YAO JGP on site : Hiro Hotta, Yuri Takamatsu remote : Yoshiro Yoneya KGP on site : KIM Kyongsok, Eung-jun Jeon advisor : Edmon Chung IP on site : Michel Suignard, Marc Blanchet ICANN : Sarmad Hussain agenda <part1> 1. rationale of "the number of allocatable lables should be small" rationale is hoped to be described in writing - why small? - how small? - aspect of reduction + reduction of characters? + reduction of variant characters? + reduction of variant labels by WLE? + : 2. complement process for LGR what kind of process can be incorporated into the whole application evaluation process - JGP will give some hints regarding complement process for LGR ==) file "ComplementRootLGR.pptx" attached 3. AOB <part2> 1. action items review ==) pasted below 2. discussion between C/J/K - especially about the unacceptable variants stated by KGP 3. preparation for Beijing meeting date: 3/20 10:00-17:00 or 18:00 3/21 9:00-17:00 or 18:00 participants: (to be confirmed) CGP Wangwei, Declan Ma, Jiangkan Yao, Chris Dillon(remotely) JGP Hiro, Yoneya, Yuri, (Maemura; TBD) KGP Prof.Kim, KISA, Hanja professional ==) proposed agenda pasted "2016 March 20-21 CJK Coordination Meeting Agenda Update.docx" Hiro ------------------------------------------------------------------------ @@ action Item List [ICANN Dublin + Marrakech] as of 6/Mar/2016 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ D : from Dublin CJK meetings M : from Marrakech meetings If any progress has been made on the action item after 6 March, the status of the action item is shown on the line beginning with ==> D1. CGP will check and share the ratio of the labels which contain both traditional character and simplified character in .CN (and .TW) registration data to C and K. ==> done (Wang Wei provided the result to the mailing list) D3. Yoneya will re-write the name of the title from "Algorithm" to "Procedure" and add some explanation (especially regarding 'review') to the "Algorithm" (now "Procedure") document before Beijing Meeting. D4. Each of CJK GPswill share their own repertoire and variants in both XML and excel format. If GP doesn't have them in both formats, send them only in the existing format. D5. CJK will check and confirm the template of Root LGR proposal and ask for IP's advice if necessary step1: Yoneya will send the edited template to CJK mailing lists which includes differentiation mark <common> for CJK and <individual> for each GP step2: CJK will check the drafted template and confirm step3: ask for IP's advice if necessary D6. CGP will investigate and share the maximum number of labels that are variant of each other in .CN (and .TW) to CJK ML. ==> done (Wang Wei provided the result to the mailing list) D7. CGP and KGP will devise a joint statement and then KGP will consider whether to make a joint statement with C and J in KGP LGR proposal D10. Yoneya will draft a temporary schedule for each step of CJK integration procedure and send it to Kenny for his check. After that. Yoneya and Kenny will share it with CJK mailing lists to solicit their opinions about the schedule M1. Wang Wei will send first draft agenda of Beijing Meeting ==> done (Wang Wei provided a draft to the mailing list) M2. Edmon will provide to CGP/JGP/KGP an analysis document regarding possible scenarios for import and export of variants among 3 GPs before Beijing Meeting. (about 8-10 slides) [Edmon] M3. Hiro will send the confirmed time schedle of Beijing Meeting to the whole CJK GP's. date: 3/20 10:00-17:00 or 18:00 3/21 9:00-17:00 or 18:00 participant: (to be confirmed) CGP Wang Wei, Declan Ma, Jiangkan Yao, Chris (remotely) JGP Hiro, Yoneya, Yuri, (maemura; TBD) KGP Prof.Kim, KISA, Hanja professional M4. Hiro will check the environment of CJK Coordination Meeting planned on 10th March to Sarmad. + availability of Adobe connect + participation of IP + start time (9:00-10:15 or 10:30-11:45) ==> done (shown at the top of this mail) M5. Each of CJK GPs will consider whether each GP has other issues to be discussed other than coordination of variant definition among GPs. If there's some issues, share them to CJK mailing list by 9th March. ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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