Dear Yoneya-san, I appreciate these examples and I was able to verify that they do lead to the same domains. It would appear that there is a practice by some Japanese applicants to treat certain combinations of old and new Kanji as variants. And I think you have made your case that the selection of which variants to treat that way depends on the applicant (and presumably the meaning of the label) and therefore is not easily captured by a mechanical rule. I would appreciate if the JGP could include this analysis (and examples) in their LGR proposal as part of the rationale for their choice of assigning variant types. I expect it will influence the review by the Integration panel. Now, separately, there was the question raised "what about variants introduced by integration that are not 'semantic' variants in Japanese?". Are there cases of delegated labels where the variants are from that subset? It would appear that unlike the old vs. new Kanji variants they must be really rare (or non-existant), because they would be unrelated in Japanese. So it would be meaningless for an applicant to have a) registered both and b) directed them to the same domain. A./
-----Original Message----- From: chinesegp-bounces@icann.org [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Yoshiro YONEYA Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 6:57 PM To: IntegrationPanel@icann.org Cc: KoreanGP@icann.org; ChineseGP@icann.org; JapaneseGP@icann.org Subject: [ChineseGP] Examples of complicated domain name
Dear IP members,
For Japanese language, we have concept of variants. But it is different from Chinese language's. In Japanese language, variants are used simultaneously by intention of the person who uses them.
Followings are examples of such usage in Japanese .JP domain names.
慶応大学.jp 慶應大学.jp
Those are name of Keio university and registered by the university. 応 and 應 are considered as variants in new form Kanji and old form Kanji. 学 has variant 學 in that sense, but Keio university does not have 慶應大學.jp which is consist of both old form Kanji.
Followings are another examples.
国学院大学.jp 國學院大學.jp
Those are name of Kokugakuin university and registered by the university. 国 and 國 are new form Kanji and old form Kanji respectively. Unlike Keio university, Kokugakuin university does not have 國學院大学.jp.
These cases are unpredictable, and very much depends on applicant's intention.
The interesting thing is, a subsidiary of Kokugakuin university has following domain name.
学校法人國學院大學栃木学園.jp
Here, 学 and 學 are used simultaneously, and it doesn't have 学校法人国学院大学栃木学園.jp.
This is reality of Japanese language.
Regards,
-- Yoshiro YONEYA <yoshiro.yoneya@jprs.co.jp>
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