Sylvia: To have different points of view, Is a great thing in many opportunities . cheers for this !!! .But I repeat, you and I know what is the reality, and this is only one = the true. On the other side, when I said : our candidates (LACRALO representives) need to speak spanish & english. I want to say that and this apply for all candidates in our region, included the caribbean ones. best regards. Carlos Dionisio Aguirre abogado - Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 www.derechoytecnologia.com.ar http://ar.ageiadensi.org
From: sylvia@prontocl.com.br To: carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com; lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: RES: [lac-discuss-en] =?iso-8859-1?q?Presentaci=F3n_de_Postulantes = Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 14:30:48 -0300
Querido Carlos: No puedo estar de acuerdo contigo. Sin duda que cuánto más se sabe em esta vida, más fáciles son las cosas y no solo hablando de idiomas. Quien me diera poder comunicarme bien en inglés, francés, español y otras cositas más como lo hace Sebastien Bacholet. Pero no es así y al igual que tú, estudiando inglés voy mejorando poco a poco. Tú mismmo eres el ejemplo, empezaste com um ingles básico y hoy em dia puedes experesarte de forma escrita y oral perfectamente. Y reitero que no puedo estar de acuerdo contigo porque a los miembros del Caribe no se les exige que hablen o que entiendan aunque sea un poco de español cuando se candidatean a un cargo en LACRALO. Realmente debemos seguir luchando para que las regiones multilingues tengan el derecho que comunicarse, expresarse y candidatarse en su própio idioma. Hoy, esto no es un impedimento para hacerlo y motivo a todos los que quieran hacerlo a que lo hagan sin ningun temor. Saludos Sylvia _________________________________________________________ Sylvia Herlein Leite LACRALO-ALAC Liaison Latin America & Caribbean At-Large Regional Organization sylvia@internautabrasil.org
-----Mensagem original----- De: lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome de carlos aguirre Enviada em: quinta-feira, 19 de agosto de 2010 13:59 Para: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org Assunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] =?iso-8859-1?q?Presentaci=F3n_de_Postulantes =
Sylvia:
As you well know, was a very strong fight that we had during many years to achieve 3 languajes for ALAC teleconferences. However, the reality shows taht is impossible to make a great work in ALAC, if you don't speak english. Sorry but, as the general said: "the unique true is the reality". We need a representative who speak spanish & english very well, it seems to me is an esential condition for any candidate who attempt to be our ALAC representative. And this doesn't mean to be discriminative, only mean that the representative need to speak both languajes. There are many other skills that our representative need, and we need to know if they have this skills, but this we will talk in another moment.
cheers. Carlos Dionisio Aguirre abogado - Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina -
*54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423
www.derechoytecnologia.com.ar
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 16:26:25 +0000 From: andrespiazzagpj@hotmail.com To: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] =?iso-8859-1?q?Presentaci=F3n_de_Postulantes =
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My exposition spoke of 2 Languages, Sylvia. Greetings,
Andrés
From: sylvia@internautabrasil.org > To: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org; andrespiazzagpj@hotmail.com > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] Presentation of Postulantes > Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:59:20 -0300 > > > Dear Andres, > Siento to have corregirte, but the languages necessary to evolve > in ALAC is: English, Spanish and French; for that reason allthe meetings and > ALAC teleconferencings have interpretation guaranteed in those three > languages. > Therefore and more considering than we are speaking of the representative of > LACRALO, your plantiamiento does not take place. It must become, yes, in the 2 languages > since our region has two official languages. > Plantear in these terms the representation of our region, means > to limit the possibility to other members of postulating itself for this position. > Greetings, > Sylvia > _________________________________________________________ > Sylvia Herlein Leite > LACRALO-ALAC Liaison > Latin America & Regional ! Caribbean AT-Large Organization > sylvia@internautabrasil.org > > > > > > -----Mensagem original > Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] command post nome of Andres > Sent Piazza command post: fifth-feira, 19 of August of 2010 12:04 > For: to presidencia@internauta.org.ar; to matias@altamiragigena.com.ar; LACRALO > Spanish > Cc: Staff AT Large > Assunto: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Presentation of Postulantes > > > > Considered, > > Taking care of the logical planteos, is not left another option that to pospone this > debate instance. > > to do it, I copy the staff in order that it explores the possibility of arming > a telephone call for the week that comes to this end. In case of > to be able to do it, I notice that the interpretation of English a will be necessary > Spanish. We could ask the candidates who express themselves in English, but no > we can demand the people who attend to ! listen to them and toask to them, > that does not count on the! answers in their language (in case we manage to obtain > the interpretation to the Spanish, anyway would be a healthful disposition > to establish the debate with the candidates in the English channel, since it will be > language in which they will have to evolve in ALAC). > > As soon as it has the confirmation of the Staff respect to the possibility of counting > with a teleconferencing and simultaneous interpretation (with the channels of > Spanish and English corresponding), will put date of the debate. > > In case of not counting on these tools, will be necessary touse the list of > mail. > > Warm Greetings and I wait for them in the Teleconferencing of this late. > > Andrés Piazza > President of LACRALO > > > > > > > > From: to presidencia@internauta.org.ar > > To: to matias@altamiragigena.com.ar; > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 11:39:37 -0300 > > CC: lac-discuss-it is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Sub! ject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Presentation of Postulantes > > > > Coincido totally with my MatÃas friend and the proposed thing by > > Alexander in previous his mails. I cannot add but to this... > > warm Greetings > > Sergio > > > > Original Message > > From: "MatÃas Altamira" <matias@altamiragigena.com.ar> > > To: "' LACRALO Español'" <lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > Cc: <lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 11:21 A.M. > > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] Presentation of Postulantes > > > > > > Dear Amigos: > > > > According to I understand of the motion of Alexander, the idea is that > > presentation and defense of postulations is another day different from this > > Thursday, which seems to me right and opportune, because this Thursday still > > has not closed the inscription of postulantes. > > > > Also I emphasize the saying by Alex respec! t to the position and its circumstances. > > Each participa! nt must have property in possession who is not > > competing for an executive position, but to integrate a device > > consulting with very varied representation and integration, reason why > > their possibilities of decision making is really null, > > concentrating its function in defending the interests of the Region > > balancing the necessities of the end users of the other regions. > > > > warm Greetings, > > > > MatÃas > > > > > > MatÃas Altamira > > Lawyer > > ALTAMIRA GIGENA - Legal Study > > Bv. San Juan 101 Floor 2° "A" > > Cordova - Argentine Republic > > Tel: +54 351 4281624 - 4257923 > > to matias@altamiragigena.com.ar > > to www.altamiragigena.com.ar > > -----Original Message > > From: lac-discuss-it is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] On Behalf Of > > Alexander Pisanty > > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 11:39 P.m. > > ! To: Carlos Side > > Cc: Spanish LACRALO; lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org; > > lac-discuss-is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] =?iso-8859-1?q?RES=à __Nominaci=F3n = > > > > Carlos, > > > > and that also agrees to structure in advance and taking care of with > > precision the requirements of the position, since this one renders accounts before > > everything in as much member of the device and not like representative whose freedom > > very robust is limited by its voters; it is necessary to balance it well. > > > > To discuss it will be very healthy because it will allow us to interiorizar to us of > > function of the position and the whole organization. > > > > Warm greetings. > > > > Alexander Pisanty > > > > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. > > Dr Alexander Pisanty > > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > > >! Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > > &g! t; * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > > > > * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > > * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org. . . . . . . . . . > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > > > > On Wed, 18 Aug 2010, Carlos Side wrote: > > > > > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:36:08 -0500 > > > From: Carlos Side <cveraq@gmail.com> > > > To: Alexander Pisanty <apisan@servidor.unam.mx> > > > Cc: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org, > > > lac-discuss-is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org, > > > "Spanish [ ISO-8859-1 ] LACRALO" > > <lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > > Subject: > > > > > ISO-8859-1?B?UmU6IFtsYWMtZGlzY3Vzcy1lc10gPT9pc28tODg1OS0xPÉ/! UkVTPcFfX > > 05vb > > > WluYWNp = [ ISO-8859-1 ] = F3n = > > > > > > Concuerdo with Alex. The that serious first stage... the following one is > > > surrender of accounts that also must be a permanent exercise > > > of > > > > > that enters and those who leave. > > > > > > Carlos Side > > > ISOC Ecuador > > > > > > > > > 2010/8/18 Alexander Pisanty <apisan@servidor.unam.mx> > > > > > > > Carlos, > > > > > > > then > démonos days - we say of here to Monday - stops > > > > to prepare the debate, that will have to take place after the closing of > > > > reception of candidacies. > > > > > > > > In that term, that us will have to indicate Andrés Piazza, we would have > > > > to contribute to questions and considerations that interest to us to know > candidates. > > > > Sugiero Andrés prepares and it sends t! o us in following the 36 hours > > > > > > first ! > & gt; > listed of ten questions and one structure for > > > > conversations > > in > > > > line and by teleconferencing. > > > > > > > > If they do not have another proposal, we use as it bases the procedure that > > > > uses > > ISOC > > > > in its selections. > > > > > > > > Warm greeting. > > > > > > > > Alexander Pisanty > > > > > > > > > > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. > >. > > > > Dr Alexander Pisanty > > > > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > > > > > > > > > > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > > > > > > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > > > > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > > > > > > > > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > > > > *! Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > > > > > > > > * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC > > > > http://www.isoc.org * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org. . > > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > >. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 18 Aug 2010, Carlos Side wrote: > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:08:36 -0500 > > > > > From: Carlos Side <cveraq@gmail.com> > > > > > To: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > Cc: lac-discuss-he is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org, > > > > > "Spanish [ ISO-8859-1 ] LACRALO" > > <lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ iso-8859-1 ] > > > > > =?iso-8859-1?q?RES=à __Nominaci=F3 > > > > &! gt; = > > > > > > > > > > > > > ! > > ; seems to Me excellent proposal the one of Alex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Carlos Side > > > > > ISOC Ecuador > > > > > > > > > > 2010/8/18 <sylvia@internautabrasil.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ [ - - Translated text (is - > in)--]] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?RES=à __Nominaci=F3n = > > > > > > From: sylvia@internautabrasil.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Alexander, > > > > > > Like always very wise your words. I a.m. sure that the region is > > > > > > sufficiently mature to do what you propose. > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > Sylvia > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > > > > ! > Sylvia Herlein Leite > > > > > > LACRALO-ALAC Liaison > > > > > > Latin America & Regional Caribbean AT-Large Organization > > > > > > sylvia@internautabrasil.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Mensagem original > > > > > > Of: lac-discuss-it is - bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [ > > > > > > mailto:lac-discuss-is - bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] command > > > > > > post nome of Alexander Pisanty Shipment command post: > > > > > > terça-feira, 17 of August of 2010 20:17 It stops: Andres Piazza > > > > > > Cc: Spanish LACRALO; lac-discuss-it is > > > > > > - bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > > ! Assunto: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Nomination > > > > &g! t; > > > > > > Andrés, all, > > > > > > > > > > > > good what that we already have two candidates; and the list you have > > > > > > not > > been > > > > > > exhausted, > > > > > > probably. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now to organize presentation of positions, discussion with the > > community, > > > > > > debate between the candidates, with to calendar of postulation of > > > > > > positions in line, teleconferencings, etc., right? > > > > > > > > > > > > Or nothing else by knowing to what organizations belong already > > > > > > every > > one > > > > > > it you have > > > > > > decided its votes? Or because some already it summoned dividingly > > > > > > some regionalismo? > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub! jects nouns, not only political of trips and budgets for > > > > > > events, they would be very attractive reasons. And both > > > > > > candidates whohave appeared until now they know of that under # > > > > > > SePoneBueno. > > > > > > > > > > > > Alexander Pisanty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > > > > Dr Alexander Pisanty > > > > > > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > > > > > > > > > > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > > > > > > > > > > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > > > > > > * LinkedIn you promarry out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > > > > > > * Twitter! : http://twitter.com/apisanty > > > > > > * Une! te to gr oup UNAM in LinkedIn, > > > > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Ã<http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22 > > 285/%C > > 3%83 > > > > > > > <http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/%C3%83> > > > > > > > > > > > >,106C0C8614 > > > > > > > > > > > > * They see ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC > > http://www.isoc.org > > > > > > * It participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org.. . . . . . . . . . >. > > > > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 17 Aug 2010, Andres Piazza wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 22:49:41 +0000 > From: Andres Piazza < > > >>>>> > > > > > > andrespiazzagpj@hotmail.com > > To: joseluis@barzallo.com, > > > > > > salgueiro.jo @ ! gmail.com, > lac-discuss-is > > > > > > - bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org, > "[ > > > > > > iso-8859-1 Spanish ] LACRALO "> > > <lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>> Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ iso-8859-1 ] Nomination > > > > > >>>>> > > > Dear > > >>>>> > > > > > > Jose Luis, > > This Presidency recognizes its acceptance and the > > > > > > take into account. Also it is effective the postulation of > > > > > > MatÃÂas Altamira, that was accepted. > > for Thanks its > > > > > > expressions. > > Greetings, > > Andrés Piazza > > > President > > > > > > of > > > > > > LACRALO > > > > > To: salgueiro.jo@gmail.com; > > > > > > > > ! lac-discuss-is > > > > > > - > > > > &! gt; > bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org; > > > > > > > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > From: > > > > > > joseluis@barzallo.com > > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:51:45 +0000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ > > > > > > lac-discuss-is ] Nomination > > > > Dear Jose Ovid > > > > > > > > > > for Thanks the nomination. Acceptance the challenge to > > > > > > represent ace > > much > > > > > > Andean community that AT the moment does not havepositions > > > > > > onwatch activates like to the rest of users of Internet, anyone it > > > > > > is his origin. > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings > > > > Jose Luis Barzallo > > AEDIT > > > > > > > > Ecuador > > > > > > > > > >! > > Jose Luis Barzallo > > > > (movable email) > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message > > From: Jose Ovid > > > > > > Salgueiro < salgueiro.jo@ gmail.com> > > Sender: > > > > > > lac-discuss-I have is - bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Date: > > > > > > Tue, 17 Aug 2010 17:12:27 > > > > > > > > > > To: <lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > Subject: > > > > > > [ lac-discuss-is ] Nomination > > > > Nomino to Jose Luis > > > > > > Barzallo representing AEDIT, Ecuador > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jose > > Ovid > > > > > > Salgueiro To > > salgueiro.jo@gmail.com > > By AVDINT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > >! > > > > > > > > > >>>>>! ; > > > > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > > > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > > > > > > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarg > > > e-lists.icann.org > > > > h! > > > > > > ttp://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > > > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > > > > > > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_at > > > > > > larg > > e-lists.icann.org > > > > > > > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ >lac-discuss-is >! > mailing > > > > > > list > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_at > > > > > > large > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > lists.icann.org > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (he is) > > > > > > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/23c9163025.html > > > > > > --]] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > lac-discuss-in mailing list > > > > > > ! lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > &! gt; > &g t; > > > > > > > > > > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en_atlarge > > - lists > > icann.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > > > > > > > > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > > > > > > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge > > - lists > > icann.org > > > > > > > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge > > - lists > > icann.org > > > > http://www.lacralo.or! g > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge > > - lists.icann.org > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge > > - lists.icann.org > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists > icann.org > > http://www.lacralo.org >
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