June 17, 2009
9:19 a.m.
[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: answer From: carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com Cristian: With much taste and to order respondere to the questions and on the subjects that are formulated to me, in the measurement of my times and capacity. Carlos Dionisio Aguirreabogado - Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - * 54-351-424-2123/423-5423 to www.derechoytecnologia.com.ar http://ar.ageiadensi.org > Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:11:27 -0700 > From: cristiancasas@hotmail.com > To: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org > CC: > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-in ] =?iso-8859-1?q?Resumen_de_lac-discuss-es=2C_Vol _ = =?iso-8859-1?q?10=2C_Env=EDo_21 = > > > [ [ - - Translated text (is - > in)--]] > > > Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Resumen_de_lac-discuss-es=2C_Vol_ = =?iso-8859-1?q?10=2C_Env=EDo_21 = > From: cristiancasas@hotmail.com > > > honorosa Dear Carlos I believe that we must value and stimulate the attitude of which they work from the voluntary military service. I include/understand and respect your high degree of commitment with ICANN, but for such reason it is that I request to little to you dwells understanding, magnanimity with the volunteers who work by the users. Finally, I interpret that ace much your contributionas the one of Alexander Pisanty would elevate the level offormation of the region, for that reason I invites to you to that in the next teleconferen! cings or the lists they coordinate with the authorities ofLacralo to initiate the agenda of study and formation inthe subjects that do to the life of the ICANN community. - > > From: lac-discuss-it is - request@atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Summary of lac-discuss-is, Vol 10, Shipment 21 > To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:31:40 -0400 > > for Envi'e the messages the list lac-discuss-is to > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > to subscribes themselves or to annul its subscription throughthe WEB > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > mail Or by electronic, sending to message with the text "help" in > the subject (subject) or in body a: > lac-discuss-is - request@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Dog contact with the person in charge of list writing a: > lac-discuss-is - owner@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > If it responds to! some content of this message, please, publishes > line of ! the subj ect (subject) under that the text is but I specify that: > "Re: Contents of lac-discuss-isdigest... ". In addition, it please, itincludes > in the to answer only those parts of! > the message to which it is > responding. > > > Subjects of the day: > > 1. Re: [ lac-discuss-in ] declaration Brazil Internaut > (Carlos Aguirre) > 2. Re: internaut of the Brazil of the declaration > (carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com) > 3. Re: [ lac-discuss-in ] declaration Brazil Internaut > (carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com) > > > > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:29:22 +0000 > From: Carlos Aguirre <carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ lac-discuss-in ] declaration Brazil > Internaut > To: <lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Cc: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org, Sylvia Leite > <sylvia@internautabrasil.org> > Message-ID: <BAY144-W7ED62E2B4889A5C29CAB4B43C0@phx.gbl> > Content-Type! : text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > English below. > > > > Aprovecho the opportunity to declares to me in this subject and does not stop to support or to be against statement (since like representative of the region in ALAC, it does not correspo! > nd to me), but to applaud the appearance of missing actors and! > that > EMS return by to their fueros, although without contributingto solutions todavia. > > > > > I take this opportunity to speak, but not to stay in againstor support the statement (because in my charge like LACRALO representative into ALAC, is not my function), but yes toapplaud the arrival of old players, who seems to eats back, but still without solutions. > > > > > > > > > > Carlos Dionisio Aguirreabogado - Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - > * 54-351-424-2123/423-5423 > to to www.derechoytecnologia.com.ar > http://ar.ageiadensi.org > > > > > > > D! ate: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:31:49-0700 > > From: carlton.sa! muels@uw imona.edu.jm > > To: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > CC: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org; sylvia@internautabrasil.org > > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-in ] declaration Brazil Internaut > > > >> > [ [ - - Translated text (is - > in)--]] > > > > > > Subject: Re: declaration Brazil Internaut! > > > From: carlton.samuels@uwimona.edu.jm > > > > I agree with both Erick and Alexander on principle. But I part > > company ace the factsdictate. Not only must we talk the talk but we > > have to walk the walk. > > > > In addition to the Travel Policy advisory, there is to raft of current > > policy advice developments in the AT-Large. The staff there arehelpfully > > you please them in one pleases on to spreadsheet and included timelines for > > action. For example and in my view, the IRT Draft Report shouldbe > > significant. > > > > Not! need to wait on the laggards. I you invites all of my colleagues who plows > > ace weary of the sideshow ace I a.m. to demonstrate to to totheir disgust in a > > and makes specific way give U.S. your views on them. Takeyourpick. > > > > Carlton Samuels > > The University of the West Indies > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 AT 5:00 p.m., <eiriarte@alfa-redi.org> > wrote: > > [ [ - - Translated text (is - > in)--]] & > gt; > > > Subject: Re: declaration Brazil Internaut > From: eiriarte@alfa-redi.org > > Supporting all and each one the points raised by Alexander Pisanty > > Alfa-Redi abstains in this voting and from > successive votings that for they have to do with algun > document or reference to requests of bottoms trips. > > Kindly, > > Erick Iriarte Ahon > Alfa-Redi > http://www.alfa-redi.org > > > AT 04:30 p.m. 16/06/2009, Alexander Pisanty wrote: > Andrés, ! > > with the to to to greater clarity I have tried to in! sist - & gt; since I energetically did it in the teleconferencing > of yesterday - in whichwe happen to substance subjects which they serve stops: > > 1, tobegin to educate our community, that > to you dates does not know the real subjects of > that takes care ICANN (something that lamentably > reiterated the day of yesterday explicitly); &g! > > t; > 2, to let toto to appear dwells like to to to scrounger &g! > t; interested in boleto/ticket/billete stops > to attend the discussion that in whichwe dog > to contribute and learning of the discussion; > > 3, to assure that our pleases to the table you eat > of the recognition tothe contribution and not of > system of quotas, that always will be unstable in addition to I infuriate; > > 4. TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITIES, To WHICH > WE SAY TO REPRESENT, ace to result of the previous thing. > > Ratifico the abstention from ISOC Mexico. >> Cuenta the you you vote and emit! > >! ; s the declaration that > theseallows you; if you have tomajority, like > to to under, and if no, to to to under personal responsibility, > consensus and the shades of thesame one that you detect. > > Warmgreeting to all. > > Alexander Pisanty > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Dr Alexander Pisanty > UNAM, Av. Univers! > > ity 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > Tels. + > 52-(1)-55-51! > > 05-6044, > > +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 >! > > * > My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * LinkedIn you promarry out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > >---->> Unete to ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org > Participa in ICANN, http://www.icann.org >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .... . .> > > On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Andres Piazza wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 16 Jun 20! 09 20:07:39 +0000 > > From: Andres Piazza <andrespiazzag! pj@hotma il.com> > > To: sylvia@internautabrasil.org, lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists! > > icann.org > > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] declaration B! > razil In > ternaut > > > > > > Sylvia Thanks, I a.m. glad that that outside your > > to to to answer.For Not only by your own position but > > the rest of the ALS, the summary there informal a.m. is very clarificador. > > Creo th! > > AT LACRALO must his! > pport this > > statement and I would like that we pruned to do one >> voting in the list, that simply > > it expresses the general consensus of LACRALO. > > > > Since President I have been able to engage in a dialog with > > majority of you and I allow myself to say that this > > text of Cheryl, ace Sylvia raises well, > > it reflects most of our positions. > > > > Even Alexander Pisanty in its abstention from > > there a.m. showed his intention that ye! sterday there a.m. is not > > exactly this something that clears Time to U.S. and > > effort. Substantial Is did not list to objections this text. >> > > If it seems to them, we dog have to consensus to support statement. You will say. > > > > Greetings > > > > A! > > ndrés Piazza > > President of LACRALO > > > > > From: sylvia@internautabrasil.org > > & > > gt; To: lac-discus! > s-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > >! > > Date: Your! > > > > e, 16 Jun 2009 16:59:17 -0300 > > > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] declaration Brazil Internaut > > > > > > Dear companions, > > > > > > In the teleconferencing I yesterday committed myself to send to declaration > > > explaining the abstention from Brazil Internaut... > > > > > > is Here: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sabemos that ICA! NN from the beginning ofthe existence ofthe Thin ones you have! donates and > > > continues making great investments to make participate and list to the voice > > > of the End users of Internet >> > > > > Also we know of the wonderful and untiring work that the president of > > > ALAC, Cheryl, you eat making. > > > > > > Our abstention in the voting made in the Teleconferencing, was > > > the to to to fear of the n! > > onpossibility of participating in the Meetings of ICANN! > in his! > > > > > &g > t; totality region when these plows made in our. Vital Sincewe considered of > > > importance of participating nonsingle in the General Assembly like of > > > factories that plows organized, acewell ace of the Public Forum; being this the only one > > > opportunity to interact with the Board. > > > > > > and this to toto fear is founded: > > > > > > 1) in the reality of to to to year 2008, wh! en the LACRALO could not make his > > > General Assembly not to be specifically solicitd to be including > > > in the budget of that year. > > > > > > 2) In the reading of page 7 of the following document, > > > http://www.icann.org/en/topics/travel-support/draft-travel-support-guideline> > > s-27may09-en.pdf > > > > > > 3) and by vague to to to commentary-answer given by Kevin Wilson when him commente > > sense > I! > d on our preoccupation in the! > > that the representatives! > > &g > t; > of the single ALSs wou! > > ld have > > the opportunityto participate in the! > > General Assemblies > > > and not of the totality the meeting when these plows made in > > > our region. Ace you dog see in: > > > https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?draft_fy10_operating_plan_and_budget_11_ > > > june_2009 > > > > > > > >! ; > > > > Rereading the document > > >htt! p://www. atlarge.icann.org/files/atlarge/alac-travel-policy-for-volunteers> > > - 24mar09-en.pdf, we see that these points plows being considered reason why > > > Brazil Internaut you you retire the abstentionto the document showed yesterday, 15 of > > > June in the monthly teleconferencing of the LACRALO. And we supported the document> > > proposed by the president of Alac, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, referringto > > > support of trips for the voluntary members of ALAC. > > > &g! > t; > > > > > > > > immediately, >! > > > > > > > Sylvia Herlein Leite > > > > > > Brazil Internaut > > > > > > > > > > > >! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >! > > &g > t; > > >>_________________________________________________________________ > > Stay up to you you date on your ! PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Live Windows > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119462413/direct/01 />>_______________________________________________ > > list lac-discuss-is mailing > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > > http://www.lacralo.org > >_______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org >! > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-e! > s_atlarg > e-lily! > > ts.icann.org > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > ___________! > > ________ > > ____________________________ > > > > > [[ - - Original text (it is) > http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/3d30dc0570.html >--]] > > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-in mailing lis! t > lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atla! rge-list s.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en_atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (it is) > > http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/4ãe234301.html > > --]] > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Probá the best games online in MSN > http://juegos.ar.msn.com/ > > > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 07:30:00 -0700 > From: carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com > Subject: R! > e: internaut of the Brazil of the declaration > To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > Cc: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org, Sylvia Leite > <sylvia@internautabrasil.org> > Message-ID: <200906171430.n5HEU0c8002087@mm2.icann.org> > > > [ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]] > > > Subject: Re: internaut of the Brazil of the declarat! ion > Of: carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com > > > English down. > > > > the subject and of the east of in of declaring to me of paragraphs of the opportunity of the the one of I take advantage of noin being supporting of paragraphs ocontra of statement (that like representative of the region in ALAC, nonI corresponds), already seemsof of whom of the to disappear and the appearance of actors of applaudingof paragraphs of but they return the fueros from his of by, todavia tocontribute of the solutions of the without of although. > > > > > Tomo this opportunity to speak, but of not remaining insideagainst or of not using the declarati! > on (because in my load like representative of LACRALO in ALAC, > it is n > ot my function), but of yes not applauding the arrival of old players, that looks like to become, but still without solutions. >> > > > > > > > > Carlos Dionisio Aguirreabogado - Sarmiento 71 - 4to.18 Cordov! a - Argentina - > * 54-351-424-2123/423-5423 > to to www! .derecho ytecnologia.com.ar > http://ar.ageiadensi.org > > date: Tue, the 16 Of June 2009 17:31:49 Of -0700 > of: carlton.samuels@uwimona.edu.jm > a: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org > CUBICAL CENTIMETER: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org;sylvia@internautabrasil.org > subject: Re: internaut of the Brazil of the declaration [ lacquer-discuss-lac-discuss-in ] > > > [ [ - - translated text (is - >)--]] of in > > > subject: Re: internaut of the Brazil of the declaration > of: carlton.samuels@uwimona.edu.jm > > I suitable a.m. with Erick and Alexander in principle. But piece > ace of the company the dictation of the facts. We must speak not only to char it! > but we > > must cross the long walk > in addition to the policy of the consultative route, is to the raft of the current > progresses of the advice of the policy in En-Grande. The personnel there arehelpfully > you who in one satisfy ignition to the leaf ! please debalance and to timelines including for > action. For example and in my opinion, shouldbe of pr! > oyecto of significant report of IRT > > > nonnecessity to hope in the stragglers. I you invite all my colleagues whom > plows tired ace of ace I morning of sideshow to demonstrate to its loathing in a > and specific elasticity the United States of the way of lasmarcas to their opinions on them. Yourpick of the taking > > Carlton Samuels > the university of Indians of the west> > > in Tue, 16 of June of 2009 IN 5:00 P.M., <eiriarte@alfa-redi.org> it wrote: > > [ [ - - translated text (is - > in)--]] > > > the subject: Re: internaut of the Brazil of the decl! > aration > of: eiriarte@alfa-redi.org > > using all an! > d each t > there am subjects raised by Alexander Pisanty > > Alfa-Redi abstains in which it you vote and of > votings successive that for they have to do with algun > amiably the d! ocument or the reference to requests of the bottoms the trips ! > > ;, > > Erick Iriarte Ahon > Alfa-Redi > http://www.alfa-redi.org & > gt; > > IN 04:30 P.M.. 16/06/2009, Alexander Pisanty esc! > ribió: & > gt; Andrés, > > withto greater clarity than I have tried to insist - > since enérgio I did in teleconferencing > of yesterday - in which we happen to the subjects of the substance that it serves shutdowns: > > 1, to begin toeducate our community, of that > to the you date does not know to the true subjects > that the takings take care of ICANN (something that lamentably > reiterated the day of ayerexplícitamente); &g! > t; > 2,> let to to appear the haltings have taste when to scrounger interested in boleto/ticket/billete for > to takecare of the disc! > ussion that in dog of whichwe > to contribute and to learn of the discussion; > > 3, to assure that ours it satisfies him to the vector eats > of the contribution of tothe of the recognition and not of > sys! tem of the contingents, that will be always unstable in addition tome become infuriated; > > 4. IN ORDER TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITIES, THOSE WHO > WE SAY TO REPRESENT, ace to be from the previous thing > > Rat! > ifico the abstention from ISOC Mexico > > Cuenta you votes and emit > > s the declaration that > these do not prohiben to him; if you havetomajority underneath, like >, and if no, to the inferior personnel responsibility, > consensus and the curtains of the same one that you detected > > Warmgreeting to all > > Alexander Pisanty > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Dr Alexander Pisanty > UNAM, Univers Av.! > 3000 ity, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > Tels. +52-(1)-5! > 5-51! > 05-6044, > +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > * my b! > log of b > log/My: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * LinkedIn you promarry towardsoutside: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > * Unete to group! UNAM inLinkedIn, > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â10! 6C0C8614 > > - - - - > > Unete to ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org > Participa in ICANN, http://www.icann.org >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ..... . > > > in Tue, the 16 of juni! > or 2009 of Seat of Andres wrote: > > >dates: Tue, > The 16 Of > June 2009 20:07:39 Of +0000 > > Of: Seat of Andres <andrespiazzagpj@hotmail.com> > > a: sylvia@internautabrasil.org, lacquer-discuss-es@atlarge-lists! > > icann.org > > subject: Re: [ lacquer-discuss-is ] declaration B! > razil in > ternaut > > > > > > thanks of Sylvia, I tomorrow cheers that that outside his > > to the to answer. For not only of its own position but > > the rest of the ALS, the summary is in favor same there clarify! informal > r. > > th of I create! > in LACRALO must uses this > > the declaration and simply wanted that we pruned to do one > > voting in the list, that > > express there am the general consensus of LACRALO. > > > > since president Ihas been able to hook to to engages in a dialog with > > majority of you and I allow myself that there am says that this one > > text of Cheryl, ace Sylviaraises well, > > reflectedthere am most of our positions > > > >! > Alexander Pisanty in its abstention from > > I even showed its intention that plows not yesterday > there > exactly this something queborra Time to the UnitedStates and > there > effort. We plows we didnot enumerate to the substantial objections east text > > > > if it islooked like them, we persecuted we have consensus to uses the declaration. You will say > >> > the greetings > > > > A! > > S! eat ofndrés > > LACRALO president! > > > > > > of: sylvia@internautabrasil.org > & > gt; and! > > gt; : lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > >! > date:Your > e, the 16 of June 2009 16:59:17 of -0300 > > > subject: [ lacquer-discuss-is ] internaut of the Brazil of the declaration > > > > > > the wanted companions, > > > > > > in teleconferencing that I trusted yesterday to send to the declaration > > > explaining the abstention from internaut of Brazil... > >! > > > > > is here: > > > >> >! > > &g > t; > > > > Sabemos that ICANN of ofthe of the existence of ofthe that you begin have thin you donate and > > > continues making great investments to make to participate and list to the voice > > > of the users of the end of the Internet > > > > > > also we knowof the wonderful one and ! the work untiring that the president of > > >ALAC, Ch! eryl, yo u eat the manufactures > > > > > > our! > abstention in the voting donates in teleconferencing, was > > > to the to fear of the n! > > onpossibility to participate in the meetingsof ICANN in his! > > > > &g > t; region of the totality when these plows donates in ours. Vital Sincewe considered of > > > importance ofnonsingle that participates in the General Assembly there are taste of> > > the factories that the plows ordered, affluent ace of the ace ofthe public forum; being thisone only > > >! > is based the opportunityto build reciprocally with the card > > > > > > and this one to to fear: > > > > > > 1) in the reality to to year 2008, when the LACRALO could not do his specifically > > > General Assembly to not being solicitd to include > > > in the budget of that to year > > > > > > 2)in the reading of pagination 7 of the fo! llowing document, > > > http://www.icann.org/en/topics/travel-support/draf! > t-travel-support-guideline > > > s-27may09-en.pdf >! > > &g > t; > > > 3) and by vague to commentary-contestadado by KevinWilson when there am > > felt > I commentedwith respect to our preoccupation in! > > that the representatives > > > of single wou of ALSs! > ld there are > > the opportunity to participate in! > > assemblies > > > general and not of the totality the meeting when these plows donates in > > > our region. Ace that you persecute you see in: > > > https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?draft_fy10_operating_plan_and_budget_11_ > > > june_2009 > > > > > > > > > > > > rereading the document > > >http://www.atlarge.icann.org/files/atlarge/alac-travel-policy-for-volunteers> > > - 24mar09-en.pdf, we see that these plows of the ends ! that plowsconsidered reason for which > > > internaut! of Braz il you retires abstentionto that the document showed yesterday, 15 of > > > June in teleconferencing monthl! > and of the LACRALO. And we used the document > > > proposed by the president of Alac, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, talking about > > > aid of the trips for the miembrosvoluntarios of ALAC. > > > > > > >! > > > > > > immediately, >! > > > > > > > Sylvia Herlein Leite > > > > > > Internaut Of Brazil > > > > > > > > > > > >! > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >! > > &g > t; > > >>_________________________________________________________________ > > stay until you you dates in its PC, the Web, and its movable telephone with alive Windows > > >>_______________________________________________ of http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119462413/direct/01/ > &! gt; list lacquer-to discuss is sending > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org! > /mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists.icann.org > & > gt; > > > http://www.lacralo.org > >_______________________________________________ > lacquer-to discuss is sending the list > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mai! > lman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lily! > ts.icann.org > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > ___________! > ________ > ____________________________ > > > > > [ [ - - original text (it is) >http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/3d30dc0570.html > --]] > > > > >_______________________________________________ > lacquer-discuss-in list that sends > lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en_atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > > ! _______________________________________________ > > >! > &g t; [ [ - - original text (is) > http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/4ãe234301.html > --]] > > > > > _______________________! > __________________________________________ > In in line MSN of the games of the best ones of those of Probá > http://juegos.ar.msn.com/ > _______________________________________________ > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (in) > http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/f563c7b326.html > --]] > > > > >> > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 07:29:59 -0700 > From: carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ lac-discuss-in ] declaration Brazil > Internaut > To: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org > Cc: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org, Sylvia Leite > <sylvia@internautabrasil.org> > Message-ID: <200906171429.n5HETxKQ002083@mm2.icann.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > [ [ - - Translated text (is ! - > in)--]] > > > Subject: Re: declaration Brazil Internaut > From: carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com > > > English below. > >> > I take advantage of the opportunity to you declare to me in this subject and it does not! > stop to support or to be against statement (since you would likerepresen! > tative or > f the region in ALAC, it does notcorrespond to me), but to applaud the appearance of missing actors andthat seems return by to totheir fueros, although without contributing tosolutions todavia. > > >> > I take this opportunity to speak, but not to stay in against orsupport the statement (because in my charge like LACRALO representative into ALAC, is not my function), but yes to applaud the arrival of old players, who seems to eats back, but still without solutions. > > > > > > > > > > Carlos Dionisio Aguirreabogado - Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba- Argentina - > * 54-351-424-2123/423-5423 >! to to to www.derechoytecnologia.com.ar > http://ar.ageiade! nsi.org > > Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:31:49 -0700 > From: carlton.samuels@uwimona.edu.jm > To: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org > CC: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org; sylvia@internautabrasil.org > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-in ] declaration Brazil Internaut > > > [ [- - Translated! > text (is - > in)--]] > > > Subject: Re: declaration Brazil Internaut> From: carlton.samuels@uwimona.edu.jm > > I agree with both Erick andAlexander on principle. But I part > company ace the facts dictate. Not only must we talk the talk but we > have to walk the walk. > > In addition to the Travel Policy advisory, there isto raft of current > policy advice developments in the AT-Large. The staff there arehelpfully > you please them in one pleases on to spreadsheet and included timelines for > action. For example and in myview, the IRT Draft Report shouldbe > significant. > > Not need to wait on the laggards. I you! you invite all of my colleagues who plows > ace weary of the s! > ideshow ace I a.m. to demonstrate to to to to their disgust in a > and makes specific way give U.S. your views on them. Take yourpick. > > Carlton Samuels > The University of the West Indies> > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 AT 5:00 p.! > m., <eiriarte@alfa-redi.org> wrote: > > [ [ - - Translat! > ed text > (is - > in)--]] > > > Subject: Re: declaration Brazil Internaut > From: eiriarte@alfa-redi.org > > Supporting all and each one the points raised by Alexander Pisanty > > Alfa-Redi abstains in this voting and from > successive votings that for they have to do with algun > document or reference to requests of bottoms trips. > > Kindly, > > Erick Iriarte Ahon > Alfa-Redi > http://www.alfa-redi.org > > > AT 04:30 p.m. 16/06/2009, Alexander Pisanty wrote: > Andrés, > > with the to to to to greater clarity I have trie! d to insist - > since I energetically did it in the telecon! ferencin g > of yesterday - in whichwe happen! > to substance subjects which they serve stops: > >1, to! > begin t > or educate our community, that > to you you date does not knowthe real subjects of > that takes care ICANN (something that lamentably > reiterated the day of yesterday explicitly); &g! > t; > 2, to let to t! > or to to appear dwells like to to to to scrounger > interestedin boleto/ticket/billete stops > to attend the discussion that in whichwedog > to contribute and learning of the discussion; > > 3, to assure that our pleases to the table you eat > of the recognition tothe contribution and not of > system of quotas, that always will be unstable in addition to I infuriate; > > 4. TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITIES, To WHICH > WE SAY TO REPRESENT, ace to result of the previous thing. >> Ratifico the abstention from ISOC Mexico. > > Cuenta the you you votes and emit! > > s the declaration that > th! ese allows you; if you have tomajority, like > to to to under, and if no, to to to to under personal responsibility, > consensus and the shades of thesame one! > that you detect. > > Warmgreeting to all. > > Alexander Pisanty > > >.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Dr Alexander Pisanty > UNAM, Av. Univers! &g! > t; ity 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > Tels. +52-(1)-55! > -51! > >; 05-6044, > +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * LinkedIn you promarry out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > >---->> Unete to ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org > Participa in ICANN, http://www.icann.org >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ..... . > > > On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Andres Piazza wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:07:39 +0000 > > From: ! Andres Piazza <andrespiazzagpj@hotmail.com> > > To: sylv! ia@inter nautabrasil.org, lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists! > > icann.org > > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] you declare! > tion B! > razil In > ternaut > > > > >&g! > t; Sylvi > to Thanks, I a.m. glad that that outside your > > to to to to answer. For Not only by your own position but > > the rest ofthe ALS, the summary there informal a.m. is v! > ery clarificador. > > Creo th! > AT LACRALO must support this > > statement and I would like that we pruned to do one > > voting in the list, that simply > > it expresses the general consensus of LACRALO. >> > > Since President I have been able to engage in a dialog with > > majority of you and I allow myselfto say that this > > text of Cheryl,ace Sylvia raises well, > > it reflects most of our positions. > > > >Even Alexander Pisanty in its abstention from > > there a.m. showed his intention that yesterdaythere a.m! . is not > > exactly this something that clears Time to U.S. and > > effort. Substantial Is did not list to objections this text. > > > > If it seems to them, we dog have to consensus to support! > statement. You will say. > > > > Greetings > > > > A! > > ndrés Piazza > > President of LACRALO > > > > > From: sylvia! > @internautabrasil.org > > & > gt; To: lac-discuss-es@! > atlarge- > lists.icann.org > > >! > Date: Your > e, 16 Jun2009 16:59:17 -0300 > > > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] declaration Brazil Internaut > > > > > > Dear companions, > > > > > > In the teleconferencing I yesterday committed myself to send to declaration >> > explaining the abstention from Brazil Internaut... > > > > > > is Here: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sabemos that ICANN from the beginning ofth! e existence ofthe Thin ones you have donates and > > >! ; contin ues making great investments to make participate and list to the voice > >> of the End users of Internet > > > > > > Also we know of the wonderful! > and untiring work that the president of > > > ALAC, > Cheryl, > you eat making. > > > > > > Our abstention in the voting made in the Teleconferencing, was > > > the to to to to fear of the n!&g! > t; > onpossibility of participating in the Meetings of ICANN in his!> > > > &g > t; totality region when these plows made in our. Vital Sincewe considered of > > > importance of participating nonsingle in the General Assembly like of > > > factories that plows organized, acewell ace of the Public Forum; being this the only one > > > opportunity to interact with the Board. > > > > > > and this to to to to fear is founded: > > > > > > 1) in the reality of to to to to year 2008, when the! LACRALO could not make his > > > General Assembly not to be specifically solicitd to be including > > > in the budget of that year. > > > > > > 2) In the reading of page 7 of the following document, > > > http://www.icann.org/en/topics/t! > ravel-support/draft-travel-support-guideline > > > s-27may09-en.pdf > > > > > > 3) and by vague to to to comm! > to entary-answer > given by Kevin Wilson when him > sense & > gt; I Co > mmented on our preoccupation in the! > that the representatives > > > of the single ALSs wou! > ld have > theopportunity to participate in the! > > General Assemblies > > > andnot of the totality the meeting when these plows made in > > > our region. Ace you dog see in: > > > https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?draft_fy10_operating_plan_and_budget_11_ > > > june_2009 > > > > > > > > > >! > > Rereading the document > > >http://www.atl! arge.ica nn.org/files/atlarge/alac-travel-policy-for-volunteers> > > - 24mar09-en.pdf, we see that these points plows being considered reason why > > > Brazil Internaut you you retires the abstentionto the document showed yesterday, 15 of! > > > > June in themonthly teleconferencing of the! > CRALO. To > nd we supported the document > > > proposed by the president of Alac, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, referringto > & > gt; > support of trips for the voluntary members of ALAC. >> > > > > > > > > > > immediately, >! > > > > > > Sylvia Herlein Leite> > > > > > Brazil Internaut > > > > > > > > > > > >! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >! > > &g > t; > > >>_________________________________________________________________ > > Stay up to you you dates on your ! 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