[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: 193 Application FUNDETIC BOLIVIA From: vanda@uol.com.br I would like to raise a counterpoint about this Foundation, respecting na reality of Bolivia. Personally I do not know these people or Foundation, but puts you one another vision: a foundation in poor country, which works to develop policies to improve the gap digital know is long in Bolivia, for me it is clear that their focus Whether the common user, this Board Index queen really need is turn user, you need to be connected but not yet their work is esty just turn this opportunity feasible. Additionally, being a foundation, I think Bolivia, in com Most of our countries, the organization rules sob estconstituda clear and hence it is an organization with local relevance, if bsica also obey the condition of having no profit, APRA is my an organization that cumpre his role in prolific users of the Internet based on the conditions of their country, very peculiar. To me it seems that your work is essential (existing users or become) Bolivian and as such do not see why your answer application. By its statutes seem very online with the work are necessary for users of the poorest countries in our region. My 2 cents Vanda Scartezini Polo Consultores Associados Av Paulista 1159, 1004 cj 01311-200 - Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 On 03/07/14 9:48, "Humberto Carrasco" <hcarrascob@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Alberto,
I just put in the wiki the reasons why I disagree with you and Understand that if I should accept the certification of this organization.
Notwithstanding the foregoing, the aquabajo copy.
Greetings
Dear Alberto,
First of all appreciate your analysis on this postulacin. Without But let me disagree with you for the following reasons:
1 -. Throughout my analysis of postulacina judgment must be a And one way analysis of background. The analysis so says relationship with The statutes or regulations governing the applicant organization. The Background analysis says relationship with the actions they have taken in Benefit the end user or in other words "works" made Or making for the benefit of end users.
2 -. Deberamos With these criteria to check whether the applicant meets the Requirements. Proceed to perform this analysis.
* To -. Analysis form *
From this point of view we have the rules cited by Alberto and Also by Fátima. However, in my opinion. An item has been omitted More than relevant. The expression user can not be in the rules Specifically, but if ms Travs other general expressions, as Eg ciudadanao population. These can be found in the Orgnicos statutes of the applicant entity.
The dictionary of the Real Academia de la Espaola Language (RAE) defines * With * _ciudadana_ to:
* "Citizen. *
* 1. * F.Cualidad and citizen rights.
* 2. * F.Conjunto citizens of a people or nation.
* 3. * Own f.Comportamiento of a good citizen. "
As you can see in the second acepcin can be perfectly Including users.
Considering this, the Statute orgnico FUNDETIC set within Their specific objectives as follows:
"Article 10 -. (Objectives YOU SPECIFIC) -. The specific objectives of FUNDETIC - BOLIVIA are:
B.Implement Society information and knowledge between / * the Citizen * /, businesses and public and private institutions, to reduce The digital divide in the country. "(Emphasis added)
Aqupuede seen as the expression is used in public Contraposicina companies and public or private institutions, Making her my judgment synonymous with the user.
Now, for the expression * _poblacin_ * SAR, it has pointed Follows:
(From the lat. / Populati (o,-o-nis /).
* 1. * F.Acciny effect to people.
* 2. * F.Conjunto people inhabiting the Earth or any division Geographic it.
* 3. * F.Conjunto of buildings and spaces of a city.
* 4. * F. / / / Ecol. / Group of individuals of the same species occupying a Same geographic area.
* 5. * F. / / / Sociol. / Set of individuals or things gone through a Statistican evaluation by sampling.
Meanwhile, the status of FUNDETIC points out the following:
"Article 10 -. (Objectives YOU SPECIFIC) -. The specific objectives of FUNDETIC - BOLIVIA are:
F. Plan and execute processes in ICT capacitacin Travs of Workshops, seminars, courses, exhibitions., Promoting Creation of new capacities and skills in different segments of the * / Population / * in the context of social development Economic and Productive. "(Emphasis added)
Aquse refers to the various segments of the population where Users should be included.
From this point of view, in my opinion, this organization If estorientada statutorily develop activities for Internet users.
* B -. * Background Analysis
As stated, in the presence of aquestamos activities Have been made or may be made for the benefit of users.
Here, here are some examples that have been made and confirmed in the Choose a web of this institution.
In the section Programs and projects. Allpor example, you can go to the Section that says "2012" and can be found with the following:
"Audience design contest for the emission of three postal stamps World commemoration da Internet "
If the general objective of the contest is reviewed, you can find this Declararcin:
"GENERAL PURPOSE: To encourage the active participation of institutions Government, academic, business and industry and indigenous organizations Originating farmers across the country, to investigate and issue a Graphical proposal that symbolizes the importance and meaning Bolivia has to use and application of Information Technologies of Comunicacin and in particular the use of the Internet as a tool Promotion and development of primordial Society Informaciny Reduction of the digital divide in the country. "
There is a reference to indigenous and peasant organizations that Of course users should be considered.
Also can be seen that this organization is involved in a program Called "my first web program":
Http://www.fundeticbolivia.org/site/index.php/programas-y-proyectos/mi-pri Pure-web
Aquse expresses "The Foundation for the Development of Technologies Informaciny Comunicacin - * "FUNDETIC-BOLIVIA" *, is pleased to Launch * MY FIRST _Programme WEB_ * the same is intended to "Impulsar y promover el acceso al uso del Internet y al desarrollo de contenidos, servicios y aplicaciones orientado a: estudiantes, universitarios, profesionales, pequeñas y medianas empresas que desean tener presencia en la WEB a un costo solidario"."
Se hace referencia a estudiantes, universitarios, profesionales, que también tienen el carácter de usuarios.
*/_En síntesis, a mi juicio se cumplen plenamente los requisitos de forma y fondo aludidas para certificar a esta organización._/**/__/*
Saludos
El 07/03/2014 12:16 a.m., Alberto Soto escribió:
Estimados, acabo de subir a la wiki mi comentario, con sugerencia de no aceptar la certificación. Copio abajo el mismo comentario:
Observaciones luego de la lectura de sus Estatutos, procedimientos y contenido de página web: Difiere la misión contenido en el Estatuto: "... políticas, implementar estrategias y coordinar acciones orientadas a reducir la brecha digital a través del impulso de las Tecnologías de la Información y la Comunicación en todos los sectores y ámbitos de la sociedad." El estatuto en general, está orientado: "...ciudadanía, empresas e instituciones públicas y privadas." Nunca indica acciones orientadas a personas en forma particular.
Observaciones en la página web: La misión: " Favorecer y coordinar las relaciones del gobierno con la sociedad boliviana mediante la gestión de instrumentos en TICs en todos los sectores y ámbitos." En "Acerca de nosotros", el motivo de su creación: "Creada para coadyuvar al Estado Plurinacional de Bolivia a la planificación, dirección y ejecución de las acciones necesarias para implementar el Gobierno Electrónico en el país mediante la difusión y uso de las Tecnologías de la Información y Comunicación (TIC)."
Solo se cita al usuario final de internet una vez , en "Acerca de nosotros", pero todas las acciones apuntan a servir en el ámbito gubernamental, aclarándolo específicamente. Esto puede verse en "Funciones principales", "Misión", "Política de calidad", "Objetivos institucionales", "Estrategia general", "Demanda" (Orientación comercial", "Contenidos y Servicios" (orientación comercial), "Tecnología" (orientación comercial). En "Factores de éxito, Liderazgo político", requiere "participación activa y directa de funcionarios del gobierno." En "Componentes de trabajo" está orientado a gobierno y empresas. Respecto a "Servicios", es netamente comercial.
Desde el momento de su creación, no hubo ninguna acción destinada al usuario final de internet, y por lo expuesto precedentemente, todo su accionar está orientado, con criterio comercial, a trabajar con empresas y gobierno de su país.
No tiene en sus estatutos, ni en sus procedimientos, ni en su página web, nada que permita vislumbrar un trabajo previo o futuro con el usuario final (no comercial) de Internet, por lo cual, no debería ser certificada.
-----Mensaje original----- De: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre de sylvia@internautabrasil.org Enviado el: martes, 04 de marzo de 2014 09:33 p.m. Para: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org Asunto: [lac-discuss-es] aplicacion 193 FUNDETIC BOLIVIA
Estimados miembros de LACRALO
Como ya ha informado el staff, hemos recibido una aplicación por parte de una organización de Bolivia para formar parte de LACRALO.
Como es costumbre, ALAC, solicita a la región un " advise", un consejo, antes de votar por la incorporación o no una organización al At-Large.
Debemos enviar este consejo para el día 10/03/2014.
Necesitamos los comentarios de los miembros de LACRALO, y para ellos hemos abierto una pagina wiki:
https://community.icann.org/display/LACRALO/Regional+Advice+needed+ALS+Ap pli cation+193+FUNDETIC+BOLIVIA
Recibiremos comentarios hasta el 9/03/2014 a las 23:59 UTC
Vean en anexo el estatuto y el reglamento interno de FUNDETIC. http://www.fundeticbolivia.org/site/
Saludos
Sylvia
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