[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re:? = Iso-8859-1 Communication = F3n_de_ACUI_sobre_la_s q = q = iso-8859-1 olicitud_de_Internauta_Colombia-_AYUDA_DE_INTERPRET = q = iso-8859-1 ACION_DE_REGLAS_VEA_DOCUMENTO_ADJUNTO =???? From: asoto@ibero-americano.org Thanks for your excellent contribution Ftima. Just add it to the wiki. To all, I ask you to please do everything to Travs wiki. If the wiki did not exist, and now sb member wishes to join the discussion must search all previous messages and then do it. In the wiki you can follow the whole thread ningn without losing detail. In the same was already established no need for statutes legally approved local authority. Best Regards Alberto Soto From: Fatima Cambronero [mailto: fatimacambronero@gmail.com] Posted on: Wednesdays, September 24, 2014 8:55 pm To: Silvia Vivanco CC: JosFrancisco Arce; Alberto Soto; ICANN At-Large Staff; LACRALO Espaol Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Communication from ACUI on request Colombia Internauta HELP RULES INTERPRETATION OF VIEW ATTACHMENT Dear / os, Silvia, thank you very much for your intentions in this work with LACRALO estllevando discussion below that. However, unfortunately, the information you share to us is not correct. ALAC has amended its rules of procedure last year. Rules ALAC procedure are valid April 2013 and can be found this link: https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2262672/ALAC%2BRoP-06April2 013.pdf? Version = 1 < https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2262672/ALAC%2BRoP-06April 2013.pdf? Version = 1 & modificationDate = 1378914284000 & api = v2> & ModificationDate = 1378914284000 & api = v2 These rules on the number 15 dealing with At-Large Structures and envan the Annex on the "Framework for At-Large Structures". The link to the Framework of the ALS is Annex 4 and is in this link https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2262672/Adjunct-04-ALS-Fram eWork-For-19Jun2013% 20Approval.pdf? version = 1 < https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2262672/Adjunct-04-ALS-Fra mework-For-19Jun2013% 20Approval.pdf? version = 1 & modificationDate = 1372720787000 & Api = v2> = 1372720787000 & modificationDate & api = v2 This framework sets out the requirements for consituirse as ALS and procedure to be performed for such Accreditation (including steps that must comply with the organization, the Secretariat of the THIN and Staff At-Large, which is what makes the Due Diligence). In the section on Minimum Requirements for ALS, ALAC in this modificacina its rules, eliminated the point relative to the NO need that ESTN organizations applying to be certified as ALS ESTN legally constituted. That is, now ALAC rules say nothing about whether a organization you want to be credited as ALS must be incorporated legally or not.Therefore, it is clear that neither can LACRALO require it as a mandatory requirement that the organization is legally constituted. I also think it is important to note that the rules of procedure ALAC, any of its points shows that ALAC shall follow the regional council. In practice, whenever an application organization that claims to be accredited as ALS, or regional council has not carried out an in ALAC Voting to certify or not the organization as ALS. And something important about it and that is ALAC now discussing: the feedback of ALAC in these cases are joint-stock. You can not know if a member of ALAC votpara or not to accredit the organization. Some members are not ALAC According to asy remains that we have spoken in favor of feedback on how votcada know ALAC member in these cases. This still has not been resolved and the reunin of seguirdiscutiendo ICANN Los Angeles. Now on this particular case we are analyzing, I liked Antonio ask that you please explaye and to explain the situation regarding the use of the name you mentioned, so then more the THIN information you can give your regional council. Thanks in advance, Antonio. Silvia, a query on this confusion of rules ALAC procedure in force, the due dilligence of ltimas organizations applying for accreditation as ALS, there has been based on the rules of 2013, right? Thank you very much. Best Regards, Fatima Cambronero The September 24, 2014, 19:38, Silvia Vivanco <silvia.vivanco@icann.org <mailto:silvia.vivanco@icann.org> > I wrote: Dear members of LACRALO Please see the document below. I have attached the version in English. ALAC / 2007 / SD / 2.Rev7. DATE: 23rd July 2007 Second Criterion The second criterion, as Agreed With the board, is in black text AS FOLLOWS: 2 Be Constituted So THAT Individual participation by Internet users who are Citizens or residents of countries Within the Geographic Region in Which the ALS is based will predominate in the ALS 'operation. The ALS May permit additional participation by others That is Compatible with the interests of Within the Individual Internet users the region. The guidelines for evaluation of whether or not an Applicant fulfils This criterion are as Follows. Guidelines Relevant to All Applicants: 1 There is no requirement That an organization be legally Constituted, or Otherwise, or of any special structure, excepting as provided Otherwise In These Guidelines. I hope this document will help them clarify doubts. Best Regards Silvia Silvia Vivanco Manager, At Large Regional Affairs ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org><http://www.icann.org> ----- Original Message ----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> ] On Behalf Of Jos Francisco Arce Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 5:03 PM To: Alberto Soto Cc: LACRALO Espaol Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Communication from ACUI on request Internauta Colombia Dear, My opinion: I think Antonio does not object. It only rhetorically asked whether being constiruido is legally necessary and sufficient condition to prove. Amen to have some that are not, I think should be discussed and analyzed in the region we want now and for the future. I think we should view the particular case, but that would be nice formality exists. Antonio Thanks for taking the trouble to find in organisms relating this information. Greetings Jose Sep 24, 2014 6:48 PM, "Alberto Soto" <asoto@ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org><mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org> >> I wrote:
Es lo que le estoy pidiendo a Antonio. Saludos cordiales
Alberto Soto
-----Mensaje original----- De: Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch [mailto:apisan@unam.mx miércoles, 24 de septiembre de 2014 06:51 p.m. Para: Alberto Soto; 'Antonio Medina Gómez'; 'LACRALO Español'; 'Humberto Carrasco' Asunto: RE: [lac-discuss-es] Comunicación de ACUI sobre la solicitud de Internauta Colombia
Alberto, Antonio,
pero a ver... entendamos qué nos dice Antonio primero. ¿Está objetando la acreditación de "Internauta Colombia"?
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________________________________________ Desde: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > [lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org Alberto Soto [asoto@ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org> ] septiembre de 2014 16:22 Hasta: 'Antonio Medina Gómez'; 'LACRALO Español'; 'Humberto Carrasco' Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Comunicación de ACUI sobre la solicitud de Internauta Colombia
Estimado Antonio, te pido por favor coloques esto en la wiki, a fin de seguir el hilo de la misma.
Muchas gracias
Alberto soto
De: Antonio Medina Gómez [mailto:amedinagomez@gmail.com miércoles, 24 de septiembre de 2014 02:32 p.m. Para: LACRALO Español; Humberto Carrasco; Alberto Soto Asunto: Comunicación de ACUI sobre la solicitud de Internauta Colombia
El 7 de septiembre el Secretario de Lacralo, Humberto Carrasco envio a la lista un mensaje denominado "[lac-discuss-es] Consejo Regional respecto de solicitud para ALS 209 Internauta Colombia / Regional Advice needed ALS Application 209 Internauta Colombia", el cual direcciona a lo publicado en el link https://community.icann.org/display/LACRALO/Internauta+Colombia
De la aplicación presentada hemos revisado el siguiente link http://internautacolombia.org/web/spip.php?article15
Transcribo lo siguiente:
Estatutos
ACTA DE LA ASAMBLEA DE CONSTITUCIÓN DEL "INTERNAUTA COLOMBIA, ASOCIACIÓN COLOMBIANA DE USUARIOS DE INTERNET", COLOMBIA
En la ciudad de Bogotá, siendo las nueve (9) a.m., del día tres (3), del mes de Marzo, del año 2014, se reunieron las personas que mas adelante se relacionan en la lista de constituyentes, con el fin de constituir el "INTERNAUTA COLOMBIA, ASOCIACIÓN COLOMBIANA DE USUARIOS DE INTERNET", COLOMBIA, persona jurídica bajo la forma de asociación de carácter privado, sin ánimo de lucro.
De acuerdo con lo anterior me permito manifestar a los miembros de Lacralo, que la "Asociación Colombiana de Usuarios de Internet" es una Marca registrada por la Asociación Colombiana de Usuarios de Internet, con sigla ACUI, ante la Superintendencia de Industria y Comercio, Entidad Gubernamental en Colombia de proteger los derechos de www.sic.gov.co <http://www.sic.gov.co> <http://www.sic.gov.co>
La normatividad al respecto, esta orientada a evitar la utilización de nombres que generen competencia o confusiones entre los consumidores, que adquieren un producto o servicio, ofrecidos por una organización de la cual estaban seguros era la de su total confianza.
Con el propósito de dejar constancia sobre las nuevas organizaciones que desean participar en el desarrollo de la región, pero que lamentablemente nos pueden afectar, solicito a quienes les corresponde, por su cargo, tomar las medidas oportunas y necesarias relacionadas con el uso de la marca "Asociación Colombiana de Usuarios de
Quiero agregar que:
En Colombia las entidades deben cumplir con unos trámites de carácter normativo y legal que deben realizar rigurosamente:
Registro ante la Cámara de Comercio de su jurisdicción, que imagino es este caso en particular se debe realizar en la CCB de la ciudad de Bogotá
Registro ante la DIAN para efectos tributarios
Obtener el Registro Unico Tributario y el NIT
Inscripción ante la autoridad respectiva para su vigilancia y control.
Con el propósito de hacer seguimiento a la solicitud de Internauta Colombia solicitamos en varias oportunidades a la Cámara de Comercio de Bogotá el respectivo certificado de existencia y representación legal de esta organización y no aparece ningún registro en la Cámara de Comercio de Bogotá de la organización Internauta Colombia, la cual esta presentando aplicación para ser parte de las ALS acreditadas en Lacralo.
Agradezco a ustedes sus comentarios al respecto y dejo constancia, con el propósito de construir confianza en Lacralo, basadas en el respeto, elemento esencial que hace parte de la transparencia que defendemos.
Respecto a la solicitud de Internauta Colombia, le corresponde a las instancias correspondientes evaluar esta información para evaluar y dar trámite normal a la solicitud presentada.
Atentamente,
Antonio Medina Gómez
Presidente
Asociación Colombiana de Usuarios de Internet, ACUI
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