You may find this thread interesting.....and fodder for the discussions at Mexico City. Carlton Samuels ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Norbert Klein <nhklein@gmx.net> Date: Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 1:45 AM Subject: Re: [governance] Re: [Coalition] ICANN Meeting in Mexico To: governance@lists.cpsr.org Cc: "Karl E. Peters" <kpeters@tldainc.org>, Ginger Paque <gpaque@gmail.com> On Wednesday, 11 February 2009 09:23:46 Karl E. Peters wrote:
Ginger and all, There is currently an effort to organize a "Users" constituency to the GNSO that meets strong resistance from many who are involved in a new constituency for non-commercial domain name (SLD) owners. The person coordinating both efforts on behalf of ICANN is Danny Younger, who deserves a hearty thanks for a thankless job. Anyone wishing to learn more may join the list for this effort or ask me if you need directions. Sincerely yours, Karl E. Peters, President Top Level Domain Association, Inc.
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [governance] Re: [Coalition] ICANN Meeting in Mexico From: Ginger Paque <gpaque@gmail.com> Date: Tue, February 10, 2009 1:34 pm To: I G List <governance@lists.cpsr.org>, Public Voice <coalition@mailman.thepublicvoice.org>
I agree with Katitza, that we should be watching the development of the proposed At Large summit at the upcoming ICANN meeting in Mexico. The Summit objectives are:
4. Objectives 4.1. An informed At-Large community that is better able to interact with other ICANN constituencies, supporting organisations and advisory committees. 4.2. An informed At-Large community that clearly understands the issues confronting ICANN and ICANN's roles and responsibilities therein. 4.3. Increased involvement by At-Large in ICANN policy debate. 4.4. An At-Large community that more clearly understands the global, rather than merely regional, point of view on ICANN-related issues. 4.5. A more engaged At-Large community that clearly understands the timing and framework of various issues currently confronting ICANN
Although I find one of the "Deliverables" to be even more interesting:
5.5. Work on a "Individual Internet Users" declaration.
(Both of the above citations are from
https://st.icann.org/data/workspaces/summit-wg/attachments/documents:200802
14104609-1-21013/original/14%2002%202008%20Summit%20proposal%20and%20budget. pdf)
Does anyone have more information on the "Individual Internet Users" declaration? Any thoughts or opinions?
Best, Ginger
Interesting – remembering the long history of discussions and decisions related to this field, I hope it will not ending in a dead end road because of a lack of clear definition of purpose – or better: of different purposes. Every person is also an "Individual Internet Users" – in addition to being a domain name seller, an ISP manager, a communications researcher etc. But until now, to focus on specific activities and concerns in ICANN, these "individuals" have found their place in the different "constituencies" according to specific task. Some individuals like myself found institutional and personal concerns well housed in the "Non-Commercial Users" constituency, other individuals have found their place within national At-Large structures, which are regionally clustered in RALOs, some individual businesspeople are in the "Commercial and Business Users" constituency of ICANN, etc. I am very much interested to know what a somewhat abstract "Individual Internet Users" declaration might be – if it is not a duplication of either the conceptual/functional or the national/regional groupings. In my understanding these relate on the one had to the existing constituencies, and on the other to the national and regional ALAC/RALO structures – but when it comes to "global, rather than merely regional, point of view on ICANN-related issues" I am at a loss to clearly understand what it means – I sounds a little bit like a douplication of ICANN. When the first round of an At-Large Users registration process was going on – up to the ICANN Accra meeting 2002, if I remember correctly, it was an unstructured global process: every individual Internet user can participate, and every individual Internet user can be a candidate to be voted into whatever offices to be created. It was as if all the US citizens would vote for the president, where every citizen could also be a presidential candidate - without any sub-structures, any parties, with their chapters, and no primaries. This would obviously lead nowhere – and so an effort of clarification of purpose started, which led to the present arrangements: conceptual/programmatic/operational concerns for institutions (and "Individual Internet Users" in them) found there place in the different ICANN constituencies, while the concerns of the "Individual Internet Users" with national and regional concerns organized themselves in the ALAC/RALO structures. This is my understanding, developed over the years. And this why I do not yet see how an "Individual Internet Users" structure would define its specificity – without ending up in the same spiral as it happened after Accra. So I am looking forward to how this this discussion develops. Norbert Klein -- If you want to know what is going on in Cambodia, please visit The Mirror, a regular review of the Cambodian language press in English. This is the latest weekly editorial: Not to Discuss Means Not to Clarify http://cambodiamirror.wordpress.com/2009/02/10/not-to-discuss-means-not-to-c... (To read it, click on the line above.) And here is something new every day: http://cambodiamirror.wordpress.com (English) http://kanhchoksangkum.wordpress.com (Khmer) PGP key-id 0x0016D0A9 ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance@lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe@lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance