Jan. 10, 2011
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From: sylvia@internautabrasil.org
Dear Alexander,
Thanks for this important and enlightening contribution.
Then for that they want to learn more on this subject is your
invitation and the invitation of Dam Bathtub, tina.dam@icann.org, that in several
opportunities were arranged to respond on this subject.
_________________________________________________________
Sylvia Herlein Leite
Secretary FLUI - www.fuilatin.org
LACRALO-ALAC Member
Latin America & Regional Caribbean AT-Large Organization
sylvia@internautabrasil.org
-----Mensagem original
Of: Alexander Pisanty [ mailto:apisan@servidor.unam.mx ]
Shipment command post: Saturday, 8 of janeiro of 2011 15:14
It stops: sylvia@internautabrasil.org
Cc: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org
Assunto: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] HEAD OF CATTLE: Fw: Fw: RESULTOF THE VOTE: Declaration
of ALAC on single character IDN TLDs
Sylvia,
thanks to recentrar the discussion in the noun.
In this subject - gTLDs of a single character in IDNs - an additional angle has
that we cannot discard:
The linguistic one which it is of bottom in this subject is very complex and is well-known
by very few specialists at world-wide level. The difficulties begin in
that who we have grown with languages that are not Chinese, Japanese or Korean
we do not understand absolutely how they (nor they work them ours, still
when they are educated in his lectoescritura). There are fundamental differences.
What one becomes in the DNS with IDNs, then, is a concerted effort of
adaptation, that must be limited not to create a cascade of
instability.
The risk of the resolution at issue is that although it is point less than
inevitable and urgent to initiate the concession of the registry of gTLDs of
single character when behind them it is a language, an alphabet, a form
of writing, or a country (for a very small number of these variables),
this cannot nor must signficar that by extension the same onesbecome
concessions for other groups of interest. These could protest that since
the registry of dominions of a single character or digit has begun in
Chinese, it cannot have objection to do it for only a Latin character.
The problem is well different as much from the technical point of viewlike
from the one of policy of development of the DNS as a whole. And who are
followed east subject and they know the community know that there is much money in
game looking for the opening of the dominions monocarácte ASCII.
Then, the resolution that supports our community will have to know a clearly one
limit, and must have continuity in the pursuit by our part stops
to avoid that one abuses in his interpretation.
I add that already the resolution that is to voting has been result of
negotiations very prolonged, and that space IDN is not free of
I interest commercial important. Some of most important so far
they come accompanied from deep technical knowledge and participated in
resolution, so that this one already is in the limit of the balance between
technically feasible and the liberation of space for lucrativeinitiatives
and innovation.
With taste I will enter details or I will put to the interested ones in contact with
experts in whom I have leaned to study this subject throughout
years (and that well are known many of You).
Sylvia, a last point: thanks to remember the possible interest to us in
our region that can arise from preHispanic languages. Amerita
to reunite to the hablantes with more knowhow, or to whoever
to propose the TLDs corresponding. Also let us remember that it is possible to be done
much in the second level. Thus, the countries where those hablantes reside
they could give to a first step opening the registry of IDNs under ccTLDs
like pe, ar, bo, cl, mx, etc. In Mexico we have not received at least, that
I know, no expression of interest on the matter, but it is necessary to be
opened it.
Warm greeting.
Alexander Pisanty
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 sylvia@internautabrasil.org wrote:
> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 19:30:08 -0200 > From: sylvia@internautabrasil.org > To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ iso-8859-1 ] HEAD OF CATTLE: Fw: Fw: RESULT OF THE VOTE: > Declaration of ALAC on single character IDN TLDs > > > Dear Miembros of LACRALO: > Before more nothing um happy 2011 for all the region and that this year > finds us more united than ever and com more participation ofall > the ALS (or particular command post the list or by e-mails). > command post second place I do mias the words spilled by Sergio respect > of the voting "Yes" to the declaration of ALAC on 1 single character IDN
TLDs. > > This subject that we have not even given the due importance him in LACRALO > since until now single we have concerned ourselves with the problems stops > to write certain letters of our alphabet like ñ of the Spanish, or >, ç of the Portuguese. But also tendriamos that to consider > if our brothers of Pérú, Bolivia and Chile wanted to write in > Aimará or those of Paraguay in Guarany. > But if we thought about incorporating the users of China, of Japan, of > Korea, etc.; it is of vital importance when since his languages > must use sequences of commandos to write a word > completes like a single character. And therefore, the voteddocument > by the members of ALAC supports the recommendation of which1 single character > and/or 2 characters IDN in the first level and second levelin general no > must be restricted and that reviews case by case. > > In this document recommends ademas that a panel of experts evalue > the requests of individual character!
or two characters IDN. > > For that they are interested in this fasciante subject, I invite a > to listen in Spanish and to read the transcription (single the next week) > of the teleconferencing in which Sergio and I participated day 21 of > December 2010. > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Community+Call+on+Internat > ionali > zed+Domain+Names+%28IDNs%29+-+21.12.10Aprovecho the opportunity stops > to congratulate to Bathtub Dam and Burt Boswinkel by the exelente work that > is doing. > > immediately, > Greetings to all > Sylvia > _________________________________________________________ > Sylvia Herlein Leite > Secretary FLUI - www.fuilatin.org > LACRALO-ALAC Member > Latin America & Regional Caribbean AT-Large Organization > sylvia@internautabrasil.org > > > > > > > > -----Mensagem original > Of: lac-discuss-she is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] command post nome of > Presidency Sent Interna!
ut command post: sixth-feira, 7 of janeiro of 2011 > 13:01 > !
For: lac
-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > Cc: carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com > Assunto: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Fw: Fw: RESULT OF THE VOTE:Declaration > of ALAC on single character IDN TLDs > > Carlos and considered members of LACRALO: > > Happy New Year for all! > > Pido excuses by my absence and the one of Sylvia, but we agreed in > vacations in the same date and we took advantage of these spaces to be able > to make life familiar. > > I have been a year old very it last from the affective thing with irreparable losses > in my family and was necessary to be able to take days me to be able > to find with the affection and the containment me of my family. > > Just in my case I will return after day 20 of January. > > Also we communicated with Sylvia by telephone and we decided to have > a meeting of work by Skype to be able to define on this subject > that had been sent to voting in ALAC on IDN, this tapeworm an extra > in the definition because it was a subject where I had !
not had > definition nor participation some, since there was a commission of > work working and was another representative whom already ithad to have > participated of the debates that had considered in ALAC and
that commission. > > In the meeting informs Sylvia to me that was a reference totake in > tells that it was the first document that vote on this subject in May > of 2010 ( > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+Statement+on+Draft+Fi > nal+Re > port+on+Policy+Aspects+Regarding+Introduction+of+Single+Character+IDN+TLDs >), where Carlos and Sylvia had voted by the affirmation, from > that data we read in the meeting the first report and the result of 2º > work that became to the light day 12 of December: "ALAC Statement > on Final Draft Report on Policy Aspects Regarding Introduction of > Single Character IDN TLDs > - Version 2." ( > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+Statement+on+Draft+Fi > nal+Re > port+on+Policy+Aspects+Regarding+Introduction+of+Single+Character+IDN+TLDs >) > > > Without having to object nothing on the excellent work thatwas > made the members of this work group and trying in this > stage that finds coherence in the decisi!
on making that came
making in the LACRALO. > > On the other hand I believe that it is necessary that we begin to have one > dynamic of work in the different LACRALO, with greater participation > on the part of the different components from this wonderfulgroup > of organized wills, since it is important for the region that his > representing can take to ahead in their opinions the will > of the Region and not what single the representative thinksindividually, > of insurance will be some times that tengamosque to take definitions > according to our criterion, but is also going to be good that we pruned to take > ahead the collective thought of the LACRALO fruit of a fecund one > debates on different subjects that are being discussed in ICANN. > > Saludo the initiative of Carlos in requesting information, and comoélsabe well, > since we commented to him this in Cartagena de Indias will be one of > comparative virtues of this representative management, single like > contributes to elev!
ate the floor of internal democracy, participation, > transparency and responsibility within LACRALO; it would seem to me > important that also it is possible to be counted in our THIN one with a report > detailed with respect to different the decision making that > took on the part of our previous representative (I know that tomaráun > time to count on it, but I discard that it will be made > responsibly and that the same one will be very beneficial for the community),
mainly in its foundation for each one of them. > > Now and until the day Domingo will be being been discussingon the Plan > strategic 2011-2014, nothing but neither nothing the less! > > Would be very good for counting on some contribution on thepart of the companions of > LACRALO. > > warm Greetings > > * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina Association > Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- > Latin American Federation of Users of Internet > <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas > MSN/MSN > YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 > 223 5 215819 * > > > the 06/01/2011 09:56 p.m., carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com wrote: > > [ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]] > > > > > > Subject: Fw: Fw: RESULT OF THE VOTE: Declaration of ALAC on the single one > > character IDN TLDs > > Of: carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com > > > > > > Hace some days, I sent th!
e email down. I have not received any > > answer > our representatives are the vacations yet or, they are sleeping? > Pienso, at least must say that "we have seen it" > > > > Carlos Dionisio Aguirre > > Advice of NCA GNSO - ICANN > > previous member of ALAC of LACRALO > > In Right of the Businesses of Lawyer - of Specialist Sarmiento 71 > > - 4to. 18 Cordova - Argentina - > > * 54-351-424-2123/423-5423 > > http://ar.ageiadensi.org > > > of: carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com > a: > lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org > date: Mon, The 3 Of January > 2011 13:49:50 Of +0000 > subject: [ lacquer-discuss-lac-discuss-in ] Fw: [ > ALAC-Anuncie ] RESULT of the VOTE: Declaration of ALAC on the single one > character IDN TLDs > > > to our native Spanish representatives of > the ALAC loudspeakers: It wanted if you can give a certain one > explicaciónsobre its vote, and I make easier, and I exceedfor > users of the end what average:!
Single Character IDN TLDs. Pienso,
lacquers that > losutilizadores of the end > needs their contribution in this. >
thanks > in advance > Carlos Dionisio Aguirre > > in Right of the Businesses
of > Lawyer - of Specialist > Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordova - Argentina
- > > * 54-351-424-2123/423-5423 > http://ar.ageiadensi.org > > >> > > > date: Mon, the 3 Of January 2011 12:21:18 Of +0100 > > of: > staff@atlarge.icann.org > > a: > alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > subject: [ ALAC-Anuncie ]! > > RESULT of the VOTE: Declaración deALAC on single carà to cter > > IDN > > TLDs > > > > Wanted All, > > > > with 13 outside 15 > members of ALAC that vote on declaración of ALAC on > sketch > > closing report on aspects of the polÃÂtica with > with respect to introducción of single carà to cter > > IDN TLDs, > we can confirm that the result is quorate. > > > > *******> > > > > asks: You use ratificación of > declaración of ALAC on sketch > > closing report on > aspects of the polÃÂtica with respect to introducción of the single one > carà to cter à > > IDN TLDs for comunicación to t!
he público process
excellent of the commentary > > > > número of voters: > 13· Stature of the group: 15· The percentage votó: 86.67> > > > > sÃÂ: 13 (100.00%) > > The Bashir, Sylvia Leite, Salt mines > Porto, Evan Leibovitch DeMohammed De Sergio, > > Cheryl > Langdon-Orr, Tijani Horseradish tree Jemaa, Gareth Shearman, Dewandranath > > > Kissoondoyal, Carlton Samuels, Olivier Crépin-Leblond, Jean-Jacques > > > Subrenat, Orujo Rotenberg, Sandra Hoferichter > > > > not: 0 > (0,00 %) > > > > abstains: 0 (0,00 %) > > > > *******> > > > > you can review the results independently > underneath: > > > https://www.bigpulse.com/pollresults?code=1508Z3mi38mHÃDdc5Nyb5hh > > > > > we can confirm that the following members of ALAC no > participated > in > > votación: > > James Seng > > Edmon Chungkin > > > > in > >!
; > Edmon informó to the members the ALAC the 30 of December of 2010 that é! > > l abstained > > to participate in this vote due to its contract > previous in > > creación of the closing report. Ã0/00l observó mà s > far that él està personally > > of support of declaración > of ALAC. > > > > all the closed votes of ALAC can > to review underneath: > > https://www.bigpulse.com/m7097 > > > > --> > > respect, > > > > Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Seth > Greene, Gisella Gruber-Blanco, > > Marilyn Vernon, Kristina > Nordström > > Personal En-Grande of ICANN > > > > email: > staff[at]atlarge.icann.org > > Web site: www.atlarge.icann.org > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________> > ALAC-Anuncie > list that envÃÂa > > ALAC-Announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org > !
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