Aug. 15, 2014
3:18 p.m.
[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: We agree with Sergio Salinas From: vanda@uol.com.br Exactly what I said in the Wiki and yesterday headed to colleagues. Here in Brazil we .bb.br over 4 -5 years ago, without any issue. If there are ccTLDs and gTLDs with this alternative does not seem right not admit that the new also do so. Hugs all q Vanda Scartezini Polo Consultores Associados Av. Paulista 1159, 1004 cj 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 On 8/14/14, 19:37, "Alejandro Pisanty" <apisanty@gmail.com> wrote: > Sergio, > > At the risk of not being understood or not I explain: > > So what you're saying is that you do not agree with two gTLDs > Characters, as they could be .aa, .ab, .ac, etc. > > That is not up for discussion right now. > > What is being discussed is whether to authorize or two names > Characters in the second level of some of the new gTLDs as .globo. > Continuing with this example being of our region, they would like > Aa.tld, ie aa.globo, ab.globo, ac.globo. > > Do you have any problems with ar.globo, br.globo, co.globo, cr.globo, > Mx.globo, pe.globo, ve.globo, etc.? (In these examples I'm getting > Combinations of two identical characters ccTLDs currently > ISO 3166). > > I still: do you have a problem with fk.globo? > > I still more: imagine - no jump for the political issue - one day > The Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela changes to ISO 3166 .ve .bv. > Do you have a problem with that now authorizes the existence of bv.globo > And when change happens the name is no longer available? > > Alejandro Pisanty > > > 8/14/2014 17:15 GMT-05: 00 Sergio Salinas Porto < > Presidencia@internauta.org.ar>: > I assumed that it >> would not understand: What I say is that plain and simple Do not >> I agree >> with NgTLD two characters because it can cause User >> confusion. I added (and now if I speak of ccTLD) that Besides >> >> Is a list of the ISO 3166 alpha-2 -1 indicates a series of >> Combinations of letters that are intended for ccTLD (some Used >> others not) and that list should be respected and not be >> Used for purposes other than for which it was created. This >> more clear now? >> * Sergio Salinas Porto >> Argentina President Internauta >> Argentina >> Internet Users Association >> <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar> FLUI >> American Federation of Internet Users >> <http://www.fuilatin.org> Facebook >>: I salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> & SergiosalinasII >> <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII> Twitter >>: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas> Google+ >> Sergio Salinas Porto >> < https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts> Hangout >>: presidencia@internauta.org.ar >> <Hangout%3Apresidencia@internauta.org.ar> / Pixelhub >>: I salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto> Youtube >>: I salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto> Skype >>: internautaargentina Mobi >>: +54 9 223 5 215819 * >> * >> "Hopefully we can be disobedient, whenever we received orders >> Humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo Galeano * >> >> >> >> The >> August 14, 2014, 19:20, Dr.Alejandro Pisanty Baruch < Apisan@unam.mx >> >>> Wrote: >> >>> Sergio, >>> >>> Said everything you say, it seems that this position confirms the reading Of >> >>> Vanda (which I share): >>> >>> What you say and supports Christian Casas seems to refer to FIRST LEVEL >> at >>> GTLD. >>> >>> The ongoing debate concerns the second level ** **, something kind Aa.tld >>, >>> Where aa is any combination of two letters. >>> >>> Can you confirm or deny it explicitly? >>> >>> Alejandro Pisanty >>> >>> >>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >>> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty >>> School of Chemistry UNAM >>> Av.University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico >>> >>> >>> >>> + 52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD >>> >>> SMS +525541444475 +525541444475 FROM MEXICO >>> Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com >>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty >>> Join the LinkedIn group at UNAM, >>> Http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 >>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty >>> ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org >>>. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [ >>> Lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Sergio >>> Salinas Porto [presidencia@internauta.org.ar] >>> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 17:03 >>> To: Vanda Scartezini >>> CC: Cristian Hernan Casas; LACRALO Spanish >>> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] We agree with Sergio Salinas >>> >>> Dear Vanda: >>> I'll try to be clear, anyone know (by knowledge or By >> >>> Usual) that two characters are used to demarcate the ccTLD. >>> ICANN Many times (not always tell), are discussing what That >> >>> Want to do business, maybe it's time to start thinking about How come >> >>> These changes would impact on end users. >>> We, the end users, who usually know (except Rare >> >>> Exceptions, which you name in your example) are three gTLDs Or >> More >> >>> Characters and two-character ccTLD, >>> A ccTLD default allows us to know which law governs users About >> >>> These domains, in terms of rights and obligations and gives us some Type >> Of >> >>> Quiet as to how to manage with regard to this as >>> Recognize to be clear rules. >>> The use of two characters in a NgTLD may cause some >> Kind of >>> Confusion about this and put an "uncomfortable" place (to call >>> Somehow) to Internet users. >>> Table of ISO 3166? 2 -1 indicates that there are certain Characters >> >>> That were not used yet, but I believe these can be >>> Used by countries or new territories at some point and not Should >> >>> Be delivered to anyone. >>> Always remember has changed the world as after the fall of Wall and >> >>> As before and also have changed the map of the world, what I I studied >> >>> When I was a child is no longer the case and I have seen how countries Called >> Of >> >>> Now call a form from another or other countries that formed today Are >> >>> Separate and distinct called, so that the table and further Two >> >>> Characters must be preserved for what it was created: a standard >>> International that provides codes for the names of countries and Other >> >>> Administrative units to define domain names Level >> >>> Geographic superior and not to do business some entrepreneurs With >> >>> A little money in their pockets. >>> I'm clear ... although this is quite complex. >>> A dear friend hug >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> * Sergio Salinas Porto >>> President Internauta Argentina >>> Argentina Association of Internet Users >>> <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar> >>> FLUI American Federation of Internet Users >>> <http://www.fuilatin.org> >>> Facebook: I salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> & >>> SergiosalinasII <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII> >>> Twitter: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas> >>> Google+: Sergio Salinas Porto >>> < https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts> >>> Hangout: presidencia@internauta.org.ar >>> <Hangout%3Apresidencia@internauta.org.ar> / >>> Pixelhub: I salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto> >>> Youtube: I salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto> >>> Skype: internautaargentina >>> Mobi: +54 9 223 5 215819 * >>> >>> * "We hope we can be disobedient, whenever we received orders >>> Humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo >>> Galeano * >>> >>> >>> >>> On August 14, 2014, 18:26, Vanda Scartezini <vanda@uol.com.br> >>> Wrote: >>> >>>> Let me understand. We're talking about according to their names >> Domain. >>>> CcTLDs and gTLDs and others are using. As here in Brazil >> There are, >>>> For example: @ .... bb.br for banks in Brazil. I do not think >>> Allow >>>> Others with relevant negotiations with the owner of the two >>>> Characters, be different do that already occurs.To deny is to have a Treatment >> >>>> Miscellaneous in will market who dispute the same market, That >> Do not >> >>>> Seems fair. >>>> To me this is not the same as having .amazon or .patagonia and if What >> >>>> Same as having - and we or even our countries answered >> - >>>> Amazon.com or patagonia.com >>>> It's a matter of being fair and have the same rule to all. Or My >> See >> >>>> Obrigamos all who already use 2 characters ascii cancel These >> >>>> Names by level. >>>> Appreciate if I am convinced of the contrary >>>> Hugs >>>> >>>> Vanda Scartezini >>>> Polo Consultores Associados >>>> Av.Paulista 1159, 1004 cj >>>> 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil >>>> Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 >>>> Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 8/12/14, 13:23, "Cristian Casas" <cristiancasas@hotmail.com> >> Wrote: >>>> >>>>> We agree with Sergio Salinas Porto especially the suggestion That >> >>> The >>>>> Vote is negative because on this and other topics >>>>> Like we have stated several organizations LACRALO With >> >>>>> Regarding its relation ngtld and country codes or regions >>>>> Geographical (cases. Patagonia .amazonas, .cba.y attached for the Dispute >> >>> By >>>>> Misuse of the list of ISO 3166-MA in the case and .gs .fk). >>>>> >>>>> Cristian Homes >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list >>>>> Lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es >>>>> >>>>> Http://www.lacralo.org >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list >>>> Lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es >>>> >>>> Http://www.lacralo.org >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list >>> Lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org >>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es >>> >>> Http://www.lacralo.org >>> _______________________________________________ >> Lac-discuss->>'s mailing list Lac-discuss->> es@atlarge-lists.icann.org >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es >> Http://www.lacralo.org >> > > > > > - > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Dr. Alejandro Pisanty >Facultad de Química UNAM >Av. 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