[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: FW: CALL FOR COMMENTS: ALAC Statement on the Proposed Bylaws Changes Regarding the Technical Liaison Group From: fatimacambronero@gmail.com Alexander, all, Thank you for calling the attention on this subject. We adhere to the idea of \u200b\u200bhaving a discussion and a statement of LACRALO on this matter. We are working with Dev and Len, analyzing documents and making the necessary consultations to present a LACRALO draft declaration on this subject before. Then if we LACRALO consensus, which we presented as a declaration to ALAC. Alejandro, YOU CAN help you understand These qut say modifications to remove the TLG liaison decisions the Board when this liaison is a non-voting person? This may help us develop a better position on the issue. These are the documents to be reviewed to better understand this subject: The Wiki-At-Large where the drafts and opinions presented on this topic http://bit.ly/1bgvfid -The final report of the Working Group on Relations Board Techniques (TRANSLATION own name in english Final Report from the Board Technical Relations Working Group): http://bit.ly/1bgvtpu -The draft of the proposed changes to the ICANN Bylaws in the corresponding sections: http://bit.ly/1bgvwkY We appreciate all the feedback we can get or do proposals they want to present declaration. Best Regards, Fatima 2013/11/24 Alberto Soto <asoto@ibero-americano.org>
Si bien mi inglés es malo, coincido con Alejandro. Parecería que en lugar de una acción directa del Grupo de enlace técnico (TLG), habrá una "respuesta a una solicitud de información...". Es decir, que si no hay una solicitud de información, no habrá información. Y no parecería correcto una acción preventiva a una acción correctiva on demand.
Por favor, lean y opinen.
Saludos cordiales
Alberto Soto
-----Mensaje original----- De: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre de Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch Enviado el: domingo, 24 de noviembre de 2013 03:25 p.m. Para: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org Asunto: [lac-discuss-es] RV: [ALAC-Announce] CALL FOR COMMENTS: ALAC Statement on the Proposed Bylaws Changes Regarding the Technical Liaison Group
Colegas,
el asunto de la consulta a la que se refiere este mensaje es de importancia relativamente alta. Trata de las modificaciones que se están proponiendo a las reglas aplicables al Grupo de Enlace Técnico (Technical Liaison Group o TLG). Estas modificaciones remueven a la persona de enlace del TLG de las decisiones del Board y otros espacios.
Como consecuencia, el contacto del Board con la tecnología se diluye y vuelve demasiado indirecto.
Les pregunto si están Uds. de acuerdo en que LACRALO emita una opinión al ALAC, e instruya a nuestros/as representantes a defenderla con su voto contra las modificaciones propuestas, en los términos que describo de inmediato. La alternativa que debemos proponer es que se siga estudiando el tema con una solución alterna que haga efectivo al TLG sin removerlo de su función actual. El texto que propongo ya lo subí como comentario en la página de ALAC y dice:
"I do not think this reform is going in a good direction. It makes the relationship of the Board with the technical community much more tenuous and indirect.
ALAC as an Interrnet users representation (or voice, at least) should be concerned that the Board may advance more in its debates and decisions without necessary technical views before actually soliciting them, instead of having the Technical Liaison Group's voice as one more when decisions are being shaped, since the early stages.
We run the risk of privileging representation and diversity in the composition of the Board while sacrificing the soundness of its decisions.
The technical liaison acts not only as described - "watchdog" acting as a backstop against decisions which could be technically wrong but also can push for more creative solutions to problems. It is not only the knowledge of the technology's constraints but the creativity based on the deep awareness of its potential that we could all be losing.
By removing the liaison instead of fixing it, we may be supporting an act of throwing away the baby with the bathwater. Let's not."
Quedo atento a sus comentarios y en su momento en función de ellos solicitaré acción de la Presidencia y la Secretaría.
Alejandro Pisanty
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________________________________________ Desde: alac-announce-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [alac-announce-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] en nombre de ICANN At-Large Staff [staff@atlarge.icann.org] Enviado el: sábado, 23 de noviembre de 2013 06:42 Hasta: alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org Asunto: [ALAC-Announce] CALL FOR COMMENTS: ALAC Statement on the Proposed Bylaws Changes Regarding the Technical Liaison Group
Dear All,
Olivier Crépin-Leblond, Chair of the ALAC, has asked that a call for comments be made on the draft "ALAC Statement on the Proposed Bylaws Changes Regarding the Technical Liaison Group<https://community.icann.org/x/_xmfAg
" in preparation for the start of the ALAC ratification process.
The current draft can be found on the At-Large Proposed Bylaws Changes Regarding the Technical Liaison Group Workspace<https://community.icann.org/x/_xmfAg>.
Please submit any comments on the workspace using the comments function by 06-Dec-2013 23:59 UTC.
A vote is to commence after comments have been collected.
Regards,
Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie Peregrine and Julia Charvolen ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC E-mail: staff@atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> _______________________________________________ ALAC-Announce mailing list ALAC-Announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-announce
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