[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?utf-8?q?Dominio=Èco=E2=80=A6_Aporte_DE_ACUI_a = =?utf-8?q?_la_lista=È = From: joseluis@barzallo.com Considered compañeros DÃa me quedà without© voice in the call and I could not yesterday comment out this on co It seems to me that lÃmite of intervención and participaciónas much of the ALS as of ICANN in the internal subjects of each is quite clear paÃs, much mà s when certain vÃnculos have legally not been closed of the usual form. I believe that the one of was yesterday very important to say "aquà we are" and if the users do not worry to us about the world because that is ours misión, but we must either satanizar decisión taken andmuch less to try than ACUI was the decisional voice in the process, I am sure that Antonio habrà made listen to its voice on the matter and his opinión is absolutely respectable, aclaración that I do althoughhas not been attacked it nor demanded nothing mà s allà of its obligations. I thank for and I congratulate the opinions that have been spilled because they us ayudarà n to future to observe with thoroughness thoseprocesses in which by our nature we must act. Warm greetings, José Luis Barzallo AEDIT www.aedit.org.ec Colón 535 and 6 of December. Edif. Cristóbal Colón Of. 602 Telf: (593 2) 2528774/ 2544464 Fax: 593 2 2564530 Email: joseluis@barzallo.com Quito Ecuador Original -----Mensaje Of: lac-discuss-he is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of Alexander Pisanty Sent: Thursday, 22 of April of 2010 19:01 It stops: to info@techlaw.com.ar CC: LACRALO Español Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Dominio.co⊠Aporte OF ACUI to the list. Daniel, introducirÃÂa a shade. We can to neither it touches us like community, nor it touches to ICANN, to take part in the internal subjects of ningún paÃÂs. Particularly they remember that agreements of the World-wide Summit on the Society of the Información they contain an agreement, that peleó to blood and fire, thatseñala that ningún paÃÂs can take part in administración of ccTLD of another one. The responsibility that is unquestionable and inclaudicable is the oneto discuss, to define, to spread and to return object from dià logo conjunción of interests of the local community of Internet (LIC) and global (GIC) before which it gives the responsibility of ccTLD. This is clear in the RFC1519 and others documents. Argumentación cannot be compatible with that responsibility one that no dé certainty about the polÃÂticas of ccTLD to "stakeholders". To risk of happening to me of didà ctico for some, it is necessary to remember that "stakeholders" is "to which the subject goes to them in something", life, honor, business, I interest, principles. To compañÃÂas, institutions and organizations of ours paÃÂses it must worry that a TLD arises (cc or g) that is lent to registries of names that force them to defensive registries. To registrars, ISPs, etc. of región worries the risk to them about confusión of its users and everything what it forces to them to adapt his instructive ones, guÃÂas, documents and operations (including antiSpam, phishing, etc.) And to all it worries to us that bad examples spread. If something is not it, that be clear. Alexander Pisanty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr Alexander Pisanty UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Ã106C0C8614 * They see ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org * It participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, Daniel Monastersky wrote:
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 19:46:05 -0300 > From: Daniel Monastersky <danielmonastersky@gmail.com> > Reply-To: to info@techlaw.com.ar > To: Alexander Pisanty <apisan@servidor.unam.mx> > Cc: "[ ISO-8859-1 ] LACRALO Español" <lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Subject: > Windows-1252?Q?Re=A'_=5Blac=2Ddiscuss=2Des=5D_Dominio=Ãco=85_Aporte_DE_AC > UI_a _ = [ Windows-1252 ] the list. > > I add Me to the preoccupation of Alex. We must intervene in the affair and > to notice that our mandate is exactly for avoiding that facts happen > like the one of CO > > > Daniel > > > > > Dr Daniel Monastersky > Partner > Techlaw | Lawyers > to www.techlaw.com.ar > > CEO & Founder > Robbed Identity > www.identidadrobada.com > > > > dÃÂa 22 of April of 2010 19:27, Alexander Pisanty > <apisan@servidor.unam.mx> escribió: > > Andrés, Antonio, all, > > > > thousand excuses by not being able to participate in the today teleconferencing; my > > plans was frustrated in! último minute. > > > > Ojalà the subject that està in discusión, on co, allows us to explore > > many to which it is related and is object of preocupación and acción of > > our organizations, each one in individual and all altogether. > > > > Alexander Pisanty > > > > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > Dr Alexander Pisanty > > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Ã106C0C8614 > > > > * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > > * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > >! > > > On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, Andres Piazza wrote: > > ! > & gt; Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 22:11:22 +0000 > > > From: Andres Piazza <andrespiazzagpj@hotmail.com> > > > To: apisan@servidor.unam.mx, amedinagomez@gmail.com > > > Cc: "[ Windows-1252 ] LACRALO Español" > > > <lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > > Subject: [ Windows-1252 ] RE: [ lac-discuss-is ] Dominio.co~E Aporte OF ACUI a > > > > > > list. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Alexander, in the Teleconferencing that this happening in this > > > same moment, I ask myself to him Antonio on this subject. > > > Just tapeworm that to go away, asi that could not respond. > > > > > > Your I raise summarizes the preoccupation that habia raised and, also > > > mia. > > > > > > Thanks for the contribution. > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > Andres > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:48:34 +0000 > > > > From: apisan@servidor.! unam.mx > > > > To: amedinagomez@gmail.com > > > > CC: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Dominio.co⊠Aporte OF ACUI to the list. > > > > > > > > Antonio, > > > > > > > > but putting the things a little mà s in clear. When originally > > > > proposed, makes ten años, that co could be used likealternative a > > > > com > > > > by the interested ones, armó the one of San QuintÃÂnbecause "pretendÃÂa > > > > to sell > > > > the name of the Mother country "or something of whichthis afirmación is not one > > > > versión > > > > very exaggerated. > > > > > > > > the process of déeach had like objective to create new rules for > > > > new operator and to replace the previous one. > > > > > > > > Now the new rules està n being leÃÂdas becau! se co canbe used > > > > like alternative to com by t! he inter ested ones. > > > > > > > > à Cómo explains ACUI or cómo reacts ACUI or cómo denies like errónea > > > > ACUI this interpretación, that indeed could be errónea or > > > > incomplete? > > > > > > > > EYE: this question has meaning for the history of ccTLDs and by > > > > as much for the history and the culture of Internet in región, and by > > > > possible extensión of its criteria, in a species of Compared Right, > > > > a > > > > others paÃÂses, thus to include/understand the precedent is important. Not > > > > deals with an attempt of intromisión of paÃÂs brother, respected and > > > > wanted. > > > > > > > > Alexander Pisanty > > > > > > > > > > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > >. > > > > Dr Alexander Pisanty > > > > UNAM, Av. University ! 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > > > > > > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > > > > > > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > > > > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > > > > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > > > > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Ã106C0C8614 > > > > > > > > * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > > > > * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org > > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > >. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, [ ISO-8859-1 ] Antonio Medina Gómez wrote: > > > > >>>>> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:18:04 -0500 >>>>> From: "[ ISO-8859-1 ] Antonio Medina Gómez" <amedinagomez@gmail.com> >>>>! > To: "[ ISO-8859-1 ] LACRALO Español" >>>>>! <lac-di scuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> >>>>> Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ Windows-1252 ] Dominio.co~E Aporte OF ACUI a >>>>> >>>>> list. >>>>> >>>>> Dear friends >>>>> >>>>> From the Colombian Asociación of Users of Internet we have been >>>>> kind >>>>> to the commentaries in relación to dominio.co and likeALS of Lacralo >>>>> we want >>>>> to make the following contributions. >>>>> >>>>> Is of fundamental importance of mentioning that evolución and development of >>>>> >>>>> dominions in Colombia associated to co has lived a complex process but >>>>> participativo©tambià n. >>>>> >>>>> the interested ones in knowing some these aspects, can accede to >>>>> vestibule of the Ministry of the TecnologÃÂas de Información and >>>>&! gt; Communications >>>>> to través of the following connection >>>>> http://www.mintic.gov.co/mincom/faces/index.jsp?id=1279 >>>>> >>>>> the Colombian Asociación of Users of Internet in the development of >>>>> this >>>>> process has participated actively in representación ofthe community of >>>>> usuary of Internet of Colombia. >>>>> >>>>> Is necessary to mention that realizó at least a público process - >>>>> of 10 >>>>> años -, in head of the Ministry of the TecnologÃÂas deInformación and >>>>> Communications, MINTIC, process that has been characterized - like many >>>>> others >>>>> by being opened, transparent and participativo, and thedifferent people >>>>> and >>>>> organizations who participated, at their moment presented/displayed públicamente >&g! t;>>> his >>>>> points of view or travÃ&! copy;s o f written proposals,scene of >>>>> respect and of consensus. >>>>> >>>>> These processes allowed him, to in that then Ministry of >>>>> Communications, to establish, as much the model of gestión and administración >>>>> like >>>>> the inherent polÃÂticas to that administración and in individual >>>>> criteria >>>>> necessary for evaluación and selección of the organization in charge of >>>>> administración. The años últimos, in this context vivió a process >>>>> of >>>>> well-known Licitación and openly socialized. >>>>> >>>>> In these processes ACUI participó making the corresponding contributions >>>>> in >>>>> work meetings that helped the Ministry to define aspects >>>>> excellent and to help to obtain consensus, that is whatfinally >>>>&g! t; enriches >>>>> these discussions, all it in a tico atmosphere democrÃ. >>>>> >>>>> Is important then to remember that the Ministry of >>>>> TecnologÃÂas >>>>> of Información and the Communications has under its responsibility >>>>> definición of polÃÂtica, the activities of control andmonitoring of >>>>> dominio.co <http://domino.co/>. >>>>> >>>>> Hay to emphasize that today dominio.co offers mà s value for >>>>> community of >>>>> Internet. It allows the users to be recognized and to be located in >>>>> Internet a >>>>> global level, to take advantage of està to ndar of world-wide class, with clear rules >>>>> and >>>>> nondiscretionary of a single person. And this has también enormous >>>>> benefits that are translated in efficiency, service, capacity and price! . >>>>> >>>>> Today we have a good, ad! visable, interesting dominion and mà s >>>>> important, >>>>> result of a participativo process. We must continue thetask >>>>> of >>>>> to work in an ambient transparency and of respect in order to obtain mà s and >>>>> better benefits usuary them and to support the made decisions >>>>> in >>>>> consensus and right context. >>>>> >>>>> Antonio Medina Gómez >>>>> President >>>>> Colombian Asociación of Users of Internet >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> lac-discuss-is mailing list >>>>> lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>>> >>>>> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists... >>>>> >>>>> http://www.lacralo.org >>>>> > > > > > > ________________________________________! _________________________ > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists... > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > -- > Dr Daniel Monastersky > Partner > Techlaw | Lawyers > to www.techlaw.com.ar > > CEO & Founder > Robbed Identity > www.identidadrobada.com >
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