Carlton, please be serious. Just show some work done. Plus, I don't see any paternalism nor self-flagellation in a call that asks you to stop using derogatory adjectives and bullying. As all this noise can be interpreted as an attempt to hide something else, please heed the call to just-show-work-that-contributes-to-policy-development-by-LACRALO, in terms of transparency and accountability. You have already overstepped the limits of civility in your personal attacks several times. Let this one be the last one. You are participating, like a few more in the community these days, in an individual capacity and we are therefore all the more so obliged to this. BTW I don't question your mastery of the English language. I decry your abuse of religious metaphor and of convoluted, abstruse utterances. This would per se be found troublesome in a monolingual context. It is much more dissuasive of fluent communication when it has to go through the potential uncertainties and distortions of automated translation. Subject-verb-complement and leave the thesauri for preaching. The community deserves clear, direct communication. Alejandro Pisanty On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 5:10 PM Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> wrote:
My dear friend Pisanty, self-flagellation is so unlike you that I can only interpret the English translation here as a backhanded attempt at atonement.
I happily cede the Spanish expressions to you and confess the interpretation depends on Google Translate. What I cannot and will not cede is expertise in the use of the English language.
So a caution. Your rank paternalism aside, know well you are simply not qualified to give me instruction on the use of the English language. Not here. Not ever.
If I were offended enough I would have sent you a private note recommending you attend yourself in some very specific way.
History absolves me.
Kindly, Carlton
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On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 at 14:23, Alejandro Pisanty <apisanty@gmail.com> wrote:
Carlton,
no pongas a prueba la paciencia; NI UN ADJETIVO OFENSIVO MÁS, basta de intentar usar el bullying para esconder los hechos evidentes. Pongan trabajo sobre la mesa con transparencia, sin conflictos de interés, y con pruebas tangibles de sus afirmaciones en vez de ofensas e insinuaciones. ¡Fácil, si existen, imposible si no!
Alejandro Pisanty
Alejandro Pisanty
On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 12:34 PM <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> wrote:
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Estimado Harold: Apoyo su nominación de Clair Craig para sustituir a este OFB WG como Representante de LACRALO incluso siendo Copresidenta y NomCom designada en ALAC reps. Clair ha aceptado el cargo.
Soy consciente de las quejas del canal secundario sobre su recomendación. bajo el pretexto de que Clair está en conflicto por ser NomCom designado para el ALAC para desempeñar ambas capacidades.
Clair es miembro de una ALS firmada por un MOU que elige unirse con LACRALO y no pierde ese estatus con su rol. Entonces leo tu acción no sólo en el ámbito de su deber como Presidente de LACRALO sino también como obligación de ejercer cierto liderazgo.
La historia te absuelve. Aparte del hecho de que, en mi opinión, la mayoría de estos Los comités no son más que vehículos para "hacer funcionar" con objetivos cuestionables. contribuciones al asesoramiento sobre políticas supuestamente de usuarios finales, puedo confirmar que Clair es capaz de desempeñar ambos roles. Los del caribe Hace tiempo que aprendí por necesidad a mascar chicle y caminar en línea recta. simultáneamente.
También tomamos nota de los continuos intentos lloriqueantes y cobardes de desfavorecer y deslegitimar a los representantes caribeños en LACRALO.
La silenciosa malicia de estos intentos es deshonrosa y se desestima con causa justificada.
Carlton Samuels
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El lunes 11 de diciembre de 2023 a las 15:30,<harold.arcos@gmail.com> escribió:
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Dear Region, we hope you had a good weekend.
In this way we share the call that the Working Group of AtLarge Operations, Finance and Budget is doing to integrate into the continuous work that this issue demands.
I give a brief reminder that our LAC Alac Member, Claire Craig, is Co-chair of this Atlarge working group, therefore I propose that the Let's consider her as the main appointee there to help us coordinate this issue in the region with the Board of Directors. What will help us to be well updated.
Please let's use this email thread for those who want to express the voluntary interest in knowing, learning and participating in this important cluster.
Greetings
harold
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: ICANN At-Large Staff<staff@atlarge.icann.org> Date: Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 2:12 PM Subject: ATTENTION: Call for membership: Operations, Finance and Budget Working group (OFB-WG) - Open until Dec 13 To: OFB-WG<ofb-wg@icann.org> , Amrita Choudhury< amritachoudhury@ccaoi.in> , Ali Al Meshal<dralialmeshal@gmail.com> , Aris Ignacio< arisignacio@yahoo.com> , pavan@dot.asia<pavan@dot.asia> , Hadia El Miniawi< hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com> , Bram Fudzulani<beatblam@hotmail.com> , Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong < abdeldjalil.bachar@gmail.com>, Sebicann Bachollet< sebicann@bachollet.fr> , Natalia Filina<filinafilka@gmail.com> , Greg Shatan [NARALO] < gregshatanalac@gmail.com>, Adrian Schmidt<aschmi@gmail.com> , Harold Arcos < harold.arcos@gmail.com>, Sergio Porto<presidencia@internauta.org.ar> , Lance Hinds<brainstreetceo@gmail.com> , Sandra Rodriguez < sandrattgg39@gmail.com> CC: Claire Craig<claireccraig@gmail.com> , Ricardo Holmquist < rihogris@gmail.com>, ICANN At-Large Staff<staff@atlarge.icann.org>
Dear All,
On behalf of Claire Craig and Ricardo Holmquist, co-Chairs of the At-Large Operations, Finance, and Budget Working Group (OFB-WG) <https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=132940946> , Este is a call for new members and for current members to re-confirm their interest in remaining.
As noted by Jonathan Zuck, ALAC Chair, all members of the ALAC are required to join the OFB-WG and attend the meetings on a regular basis.
Note the objectives of the OFB-WG in its charter. <https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=132940946> The Tasks of the OFB-WG include:
o Providing input to, and drafting any statement related to, the ICANN strategic plan and processes.
o Providing input to, and drafting any statements related to, ICANN's operational initiatives.
o Providing input to, and drafting any statement related to, the ICANN and IANA/PTI budget process.
o Providing input to, and drafting any statement related to, Organizational Reviews and Continuous Improvement.
o Reviewing any Fiscal Year At-Large Funding Requests for inclusion into the ALAC's statement on ICANN's annual budget and operating plan.
Could you please let the co-chairs and At-Large staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org> know whether you are interested in joining the working group or, if you are an existing member, whether you do wish to continue your membership by *Wednesday, 13 December 2023, 23:00 UTC*.
Kind regards,
At-Large Staff ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community Website: atlarge.icann.org Facebook: facebook.com/icannatlarge Twitter: @ICANNAtLarge<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>
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