[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re:?? = Iso-8859-1 q = 3A_Comentarios_P RES-_E == FAblicos_ = iso-8859-1 q = strategia_de_las_Reuniones_de_ICANN?? From: asoto@ibero-americano.org Fatima, I consider my actuacin in the region since the year 2005, no warrants concepts discharges are offensive and baseless. Always participate tena things and providing knowledge to do the necessary foundations. No cambiarnada that consensus does not want to change, nor am I imposing nothing. I'm just wasting time on this, instead of working productively as should do. Before being elected to critiquy discutmucho by this type of behaviors that only affects our Regin, and please ask all non- ms never practiced. Regarding the application of custom, I do not mind at all. Single that the lack of participation can do, but this is not the case, and I repeat, THIS IS NOT THE CASE, who has with this system, impose their Will initiating discussion or by pouring the first view. Because if one reviewer, primarese criterion for Regin. Regarding the application of what I estreglamentado as President may apply Article 4 of the Operating Principles LACRALO I paragraph shall third: The General Assembly should, as far as possible, operate consensus. When you can not reach consensus, each accredited in ALS General Assembly tendrderecho to one vote, and hese helpful decidirn by Simple majority any matter submitted to the vote. I just hope and remind everyone that today is 9 and the period ending on 11 April, please pour your comments to the list until that day. Best Regards Alberto Soto From: Fatima Cambronero [mailto: fatimacambronero@gmail.com] Posted on: Tuesday, April 8, 2014 1:33 a.m. To: Alberto Soto CC: SYLVIA Herlein; LACRALO Espaol Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] RES: Comments Pblicos - Strategy of ICANN Meetings Alberto, On April 8, 2014, 2:16, Alberto Soto <asoto@ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org> > Wrote: Thanks Fatima, your invaluable collaboration, thanks Josh. But this time fulfill everything I estreglamentado. A qute you mean, "I will fulfill all estreglamentado"? If your idea is you ignore how is working the region and let listening to the region, ests comentiendo an error. Whether starting a new mandate does not authorize ignore how that the region has traditionally worked. And our expliquque Travs this region to the usual time logrpor, there is no Ruling to establish how to proceed in these situations. I'm just waiting without especfica date but before 12 April for close this topic. Not the first presentation which must be taken into account, but the views of all. We have many things in internal working groups and external to our Regin. And give it time convenient for everyone to issued antelacin enough. I think there is a lack of understanding of the work done by RALOs. The RALOs are who should provide input to ALAC. The work of THIN alone, isolated is filed without anyone read or hear what the THIN estopinando. Also there is a confusion as mAb statements are handled: the presenting the draft is who will act as pen holder consolidating different opinions to reach a final declaration. Asse made traditionally. Therefore all reviews will wait for a consensus. Date deadline is April 11. Otherwise, it received According deberopinar until that date. Ojalque is achieved the 42 ALS speak out about this and many other issues. I permanently mailing emails seeking comment for carrying ALAC and have had no such luck. And of course we rely on consensus. In the consensus achieved for our particular operating Region: if no one objects strongly disposed within, ahtenemos consensus. I think also there is another confusion: t debers not review, duty review the region. And respecting this process I explained that I have used in our THIN. It is our goal in this Gestin, primarily seek to achieve consensus. We agree. Personally I have always worked towards consensus. Slo I understand the consensus of all the ways you want or can, unless to do so based on constraints. Hope you do not stray from the goal of this thread is email about a draft declaration presented and on which it is asking for feedback, as usually happens: lose focus on issues distract from the real discussions. Encantada consensus still discussing in another thread. Fatima Cambronero Thank you! Alberto Soto . From: Fatima Cambronero [mailto: fatimacambronero@gmail.com] Posted on: Tuesday, April 8, 2014 12:57 am To: Alberto Soto CC: SYLVIA Herlein; LACRALO Espaol Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] RES: Comments Pblicos - Strategy of ICANN Meetings Dear, Josgracias for starting this topic, prepare a draft declaration and share it with all of us. This issue also estabierto to comment on ALAC, until 12 April and then the declaration obtained is Voting Member shall submit to ALAC. This link podrn find the relevant information: https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+ICANN+Future+Meet ings + Strategy + Workspace It will be interesting to LACRALO can seek consensus on this statement by Jospara to raise these comments on behalf of ALAC THIN. This is the way that members of ALAC can desempear our role: receiving input from the region and elevndolo to ALAC. For this to happen, and as we have done many times during the Chairmanship of Jos, is needed to establish a current officers deadline for receiving comments and reach consensus on the declaration, to be high. As we also know we have handled with a kind of "rough consensus": if within the prescribed period no one objects strongly believes that there is acceptance of what is and estproponiendo We have reached this consensus. Also we have the understanding that driving who presented the draft declaration acts as "pen holder" of the declaration, and must be incorporated into the original version comments received and prepare the final declaration. This not estprevisto in our rules of procedure, has become a rule of habit; without but is similar to the procedure followed in ALAC. I hope we can continue this procedure for oiling LACRALO follow pronouncing on the issues on which comments are required, and ALAC count with these positions to elevate ALAC. Best Regards, Fatima Cambronero The April 7, 2014, 22:40 Alberto Soto <asoto@ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org> > Wrote: Dear Sylvia, I have a concern. Pblicas will be two days in Meeting A and C, not grabbing it B. stas ÚLTIMAS realizarn in places not have the capacity to organize large meetings, which Sern passes mean guys. And these never They will have the opportunity to participacinpblica. Sque everything can not be achieved, but not harmful to them and also for ICANN? Thanks and best regards Alberto Soto ----- Original Message ----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> ] On Behalf Of sylvia@internautabrasil.org <mailto:sylvia@internautabrasil.org> Posted on: Monday, April 7, 2014 7:37 pm To: 'JosFrancisco Arce'; 'LACRALO Espaol' Subject: [lac-discuss-es] RES: Comments Pblicos - Strategy of ICANN Meetings Dear Jos Thanks for your comments and declaration which we will be studying and responding with my companions of MSWG, but since you already advance that were taken into account all your concerns and so late take the decision to offer the community this new option of annual meetings. I invite everyone to see the presentation we did in Singapore explaining the reasons leading us to present this new model. http://singapore49.icann.org/en/schedule/mon-mswg/presentation-mswg-24mar14- in http://singapore49.icann.org/en/schedule/mon-mswg tb and make comments which they believe necessary in http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/meetings-strategy-25feb14-en.htm until 25 April. Regards, Sylvia ___________________________________________________ Sylvia Herlein sylvia@internautabrasil.org <mailto:sylvia@internautabrasil.org> Secretary-LACRALO ICANN / 2012-2014 - Secretary http://atlarge.icann.org FLUI 2009-2015 sylvia_leite = Skype ----- Mensagem Original ----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> ] Em nome de Jos Francisco Arce em Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 11:36 To: LACRALO Espaol Assunto: [lac-discuss-es] Comments Pblicos - Strategy Meetings ICANN Dear Members As I estabierto SABRN pblicos comment period on group estratgico work of ICANN meetings https://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/meetings-strategy-25feb14-en.ht < https://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/meetings-strategy-25feb14-en.h tm> m In turn, the document to be considered this in several languages \u200b\u200bincluding Espaol: https://www.icann.org/es/groups/board/participation/mswg/recommendations-25f < https://www.icann.org/es/groups/board/participation/mswg/recommendations-25 feb14-en.pdf> EB14-en.pdf A member of the region, Sylvia Leite, is currently a member of the group, who has worked very hard in this draft, along with the others members. I personally drafted a declaration for you to leave as in the region, if there is no consensus, I estarsubindolo to pblicos comments personally. The last day is April 25. My comp: https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=47264806 Regards - Arce, JosF. http://lnkd.in/bPdTThz _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/986c4ab566.html --]]