[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: On civil society and end user From: asoto@ibero-americano.org Dear, I just incorporate this information in the wiki. https://community.icann.org/display/LACRALO/SOCIEDAD+CIVIL+-+CIVIL+SOCIETY Although we do not agrupemos, some people do in ICANN. Perhaps deberamos discuss where we stand now, if you really user this does not end well represented. And as the transition estarluego IANA. I remember something that citvarias times in various meetings, and LACRALO meettings many in ALAC and ICANN. When the CEO of ICANN was the conformation of the ICG report, Sebastien word and Bacholet pidila said end users were not represented. The CEO will contesttbNL> ermos all end users. And I say no, that is not the asdesde viewpoint of safeguarding the interests of the end user. The president, a legislature, a minister, a service provider Internet, the president of a chamber to which they belong, and we can continue They naming, they are end users. But when making decisions that affect end users in decision MSWI qudireccin? By interests its industry or to the interests of the end user? As quedarel end user after the IANA transition? Deberamos see Model community as sole member explicLen us a monthly meeting. Efforts were being made in the Working Group Intercommunity (CCWG) on Liability. If someone wants to remember, that link Short of submission: https://goo.gl/XWcpNc I ask you please to overturn their views on the wiki for all we can follow up. Best regards Alberto Soto Here is a summary: Recommendation 5 ATLAS II ICANN should consider how best to ensure that users finals will be held in the center of the process of accountability in all aspects relating to the transition of administration of the IANA function. Recipients ICANN Board; ICANN Staff; ICANN Community Assigned to: ICANN IANA Transition & Accountability Summary so far Could feed into ICANN accountability process and the work of At-Large IANA WG issues. 09 Sep 2015: It is a Very Important recommendation. Are we pushing enough to Strengthen the position of the end users (this Concerns the question of civil society and the role of ALAC / At-Large)? It Seems That We Have not pushed CCWG-Accountability to fully address questions and Those Consider the position of end users. 16 Sep 2015: The ALAC / At-Large Have Been Advocating for end users to balance the power of other interested parties, and will continue to do so. We are not in the position to say That the end user rights are more Important than other rights. Should the ALAC advocate That the end users' trump other Concerns Concerns? Yes, in some cases, users Should Take dominance; but not all the time. The needs of users May not be so much different from the needs of other parties. For example, IANA stewardship Regarding transition, there is almost 100% overlap Between the interests of registries and the interests of users in terms of the operational aspect of IANA functions. Shall Assignees Evaluate the implementation of pending recommendation esta the outcome (ie end report) of the CCWG-Accountability. 22 Sep 2015: We can not say That the recommendation has Already Been Implemented. End users are at the heart of the accountability process, but Have Limited knowledge and influence in the process. Some parts of the discussions at some Working Group: I think with this we will have many comments. The model precisely It requires balancing the concerns or interests. there is no doubt that users are more dominant than others. Between users estn many parts of the community and, to be frank, many of these issues I do not think that the views of end-users are distinct from the visions of the other parties. This whole issue of IANA, the standards we are looking for, there seems to be the same overlay of interests with the interests records users. Both want the root area and we want to work make the necessary changes to it. There are not necessarily many differences between them in operational terms. We are in a position the same as we are with the GNSO? All of these things have to be balanced. Hear someone say before the esttotalmente not balanced together sometimes. The model of the community, CCWG have the opportunity to achieve this balance? We are not in position to assert our rights more than others.He ARE the center of public interest interest of ICANN. I think this is a work in progress. Leesto When I first gave me the impresino it may be that the with this group has the impression of being an indication of a job does not ICANN completely. We are always thinking about the user's interests and acestamos pidindole the board that a balance is achieved between the existing interests. I think that's something we're already doing that and It has been done. --- Avast antivirus software has analyzed this e-mail for viruses. https://www.avast.com/antivirus [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/dbfb564d10.html --]]