[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: RES: LACRALO ELECTIONS From: apisan@unam.mx Jos, For my part I see little point in continuing this discusin. Both Vanda as I stated above we think that you should have contributed to the transparency and legitimacy of the electoral process in which you intend to reeleccin by conduction of some sta steps by community members. What proceeds is that your report underside gestiny your proposals for a new PERIOD to the list, in Spanish and in English, and publish them at some site (can be the Wiki but be desirable open site) so we can all have access to know and evaluate it. If this process were driving someone independent, since there will be a delivery time of the report 48 hours before the first conference-debate and you will have committed to be available to answer any questions about it within that period ascomo in the days following the debate. Alejandro Pisanty --------------------------- Dr. Alejandro Pisanty UNAM Faculty of Chemistry 3000 University Avenue, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico +52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD SMS FROM +525541444475 +525541444475 Mexico Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the group on LinkedIn UNAM, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ________________________________________ From: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of JosFrancisco Arce [josefranciscoarce@gmail.com] Posted on: Monday, March 11, 2013 9:09 To: Vanda UOL CC: ICANN At-Large Staff; lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-in] RES: LACRALO ELECTIONS Vanda, 1) I reiterate my questions if you do not understand: For qutcrees never before made this questioning process election of the region? and By quahora? Whenever we deal with the same election procedure. By qutcrees that ICANN Staff should not take intervencin in elections? The staff was always who manejel Big Push with which choices are made in LACRALO. Interested in these answers to the community since teres, like Alejandro, a great leader of the region. 2) Our rules regarding elections never appoint the Chair in charge of the election process. All you should do secrete (See rules). Sylvia was the one who opened the process Mandla and who estencargada the election process, not the Chair. Rules: https://community.icann.org/display/LACRALO/LACRALO+Organising+Documents Ms allde that particular topic, may consult with Dev Anand, Secreatario previous LACRALO, who conducted many past elections. In addition, as already mentioned other opportunities, if we assume that the estn rules are wrong or unjust, can start a process of Modifying thereof. 3) For the above I wonder Part the Chair when not the Chair quin estconduciendo the election process, if not LACRALO Secretary (Rule 13)? 4) You can not compare a Pas LACRALO. LACRALO is a group of people estreunida that without an established legal framework, which only recognizes ICANN esttrabajando certain institutional and voluntarily. I appreciate your interest, Attentively JosArce. - Vanda 2013/3/11 UOL <vanda@uol.com.br>
From my point of view I believe once Josemis competing to reelection he nees to step down, a vice chair or other person shall conduct the election. It is a gormality that is releevant to the transparnce of the process. I understand the candidate can not call or oversee its own election, it is a matter of principle, just that. The majority of our countries Constitutions demands such independence. The rules are supposing a general election. Any election where the cnadidate is in the position of command needs to select someone to conduct the process, just that.
Vanda Scartezini Sent from my iPad
On 11/03/2013, at 00:25, Silvia Vivanco <silvia.vivanco@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Vanda, et all,
I would like to ask if there is any concrete and specific circumstance which merits that the LACRALO election process be called into question. As I explained in my earlier email, ICANN Staff has been updating the WIKI, monitoring BOTH Mailists and working with the LACRALO Secretariat and Chair, to ensure the process is transparent, fair and that ALL members of LACRALO had a chance to send nominations, support candidates, etc.
The election process is taking place according to LACRALO's CURRENT ROPs,( however good or bad), this is what LACRALO has at the moment, and this is the procedure that is being followed.
ICANN staff remains at your disposal so that this election process can move forward.
Thank you!
Kind regards,
Silvia
Silvia Vivanco Manager, At-Large Regional Affairs Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: + 1 (202) 570-7119 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Cell/Mobile: +1 (202) 735-7011
-----Original Message----- From: lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of vanda@uol.com.br Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:02 AM To: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff; lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] RES: LACRALO ELECTIONS
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Subject: Re: RES: LACRALO ELECTIONS From: vanda@uol.com.br
In these cases I think it is prudent to consult lawyers Icann because we are part of the structure of ICANN (ICANN pay our costs) to avoid problems as we had plenty of An LACRALO. I think Dr. Alejandro has knowledge to do so, aslo ask you did this before the end of this consultation process. Hugs
Vanda Scartezini Sent from my iPhone
On 03.08.2013, at 20:15, Johnny Laureano <johnnylaureano@yahoo.com> wrote:
Estimados compañeros de LACRALO, Staff ICANN,
Es dificil pasar por alto los comentarios respecto de la legitimidad de este proceso eleccionario, me recuerda que se ha experimentado antes y lo doloroso que son estos procesos para todos.
Es por ello, de ser posible, sea oportuno aperturar por una semana el registro de candidatos para este proceso eleccionario y conformar un comité electoral, tal lo planteado por el Dr. Pisanty, me parece sensato y razonable.
Una apertura a estas dos acciones, coadyuvará a la legitimidad de los resultados.
Johnny Laureano AUI PERU - ALS
--- On Fri, 3/8/13, Guillermo M. Zamora - Abogado <gmzamora@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Guillermo M. Zamora - Abogado <gmzamora@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] RES: LACRALO ELECCIONES To: "Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch" <apisan@unam.mx> Cc: "lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org" < lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org>, "ICANN At-Large Staff" < staff@atlarge.icann.org> Date: Friday, March 8, 2013, 4:58 PM
Dr. Pisanty:
Quizás me exprese mal y dije algo que no quise decir, aunque no creo haberlo hecho, en ningún momento defendí a José, ni defendí nada, lo único que expresé y que reitero, es mi molestia personal por los términos
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