Re: [lac-discuss-en] =?iso-8859-1?q?Resultados_de_elecci=F3n_para_la _ = =?iso-8859-1?q?silla_y_la_secretar=EDa_en_Ciudad_de_M=E9xico =
[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Resultados_de_elecci=F3n_para_la _ = =?iso-8859-1?q?silla_y_la_secretar=EDa_en_Ciudad_de_M=E9xico = From: amedinagomez@gmail.com 19 of March of 2009 An Assembly is the Maxima authority of a decision device, is sovereign and actua with total autonomy. In right the decisions taken in the development of an assembly are inmodificables. It does not correspond to him to Carlton Samues to say at this moment that one appeared error and simply by means of a delayed electronic mail to propose modifications to an act of such nature. This is not its responsibility and it is a decision that cannot and that does not correspond to him to take. I feel much.
From our point of view the Assembly of Lacralo made in Mexico, it fulfilled to cabalidad with the totality of the requirements and procedures established, which we respected without a doubt, with which I allow myself to affirm that the selections, decisions and resolutions adopted in thisassembly they are effective and I repeat are inmodificables.
Antonio Medina Go'mez President Colombian association of Users of Internet 2009/3/19 <carlton.samuels@uwimona.edu.jm>
[ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]] > > > Subject: Re: Results of selection for the chair and the secretariat in City of > Mexico > Of: carlton.samuels@uwimona.edu.jm > > Dear Colleagues: > Like he is disclosed by the official account and like official > presidency, I called > selection in the officious results that were indicated incorrectly. > Tengo > emphatic DevNet and they are consulted with who its vote is counted. > Therefore and by the level file, Seat of Andres de Ageia Densi > Argentina > becomes like chair of LACRALO for period 2009 with possibility a > reelíjase. > > Since the selection for the secretariat was based on resultadodel > the selection for the chair, the selection for the secretariat is null and without > effect. > Therefore, the selection of the Seat of Andres de Ageia Densi Argentina > like > puts to a side the LACRALO secretariat and the new appointments are > opened. > > I am declaring the appointments for the post of the secretariat, L! ACRALO > I open myself like in > 0000 hours of UTC march Fridays, twentieth and extreme in 2359 hours of > UTC Thursday twenty sixth > March of 2009. The appointments are due to do generally of the way > to the LAC-DISCUSS > list. > > the voting will be in line and begin as of 0900 hours of UTC > Friday, 27mo > extreme March of 2009 and in 1500 hours of UTC Friday, 3de April of > 2009. Or like > soon as he is reasonable, depending on service load of the personnel. > > good Respect, > Carlton Samuels > > ================================================================================================== > > 2009/3/19 Ashton-Ciervo Of Mella <Nick.Ashton-Hart@icann.org> > > Wanted Members of LACRALO: > > later carefully to review > recordings of LACRALO GA whereas > is prepared the official file > of the voting by the positions of the LACRALO chair and > secretariat, us > forces to inform to him that an error in the calculation > into the results for > selectio! n of the chair has been discovered > > the error is that! the vot e of > to be able of DevNet (Guyana) was not including in > counts of the vote. It was this vote > including, because you will see enasociado > the documents, the result of > selection would have been different and Andres > the Seat would have been chosen > chair > > we have investigated the ordinary rules of the procedure > deLACRALO, as well as > the rules of UNGA that are incorporated by > reference enlas ordinary rules > neither nor others fixed anticipate > errors in the process of the selection > like Carlton Samuels was the official > of presidency in the that then selections was > lead, under rules > of the procedure ordinary is! > tá so that it governs ignition > how this situation will be solved. > we have spoken with Carlton, and he > will soon send an email to theregion in > this subject with his > governing in the matter > > passed but not it > less, desire to extend my vindications to name of all > personal En-Grande! for our part in this situation, and detail to > affected candidates > by the situation > > the translation of A of this note in Spanish, as well as > to have associate, is being > prepared as quickly as we can and > we will be sent WHATEVER BEFORE > > -- > respect, > > Ashton-Ciervo Of > Mella, Matthias Langenegger, Heidi Ullrich, Marie-Hélène > Bouchoms > > Personal En-Grande of ICANN > email: staff@atlarge.icann.org> > > _______________________________________________ > list that it sends > lacquer-discuss-lac-discuss-in > lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en_atlarge-lists...; > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (in) > http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/b9587b23c4.html > --]] > > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es@atla! rge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman! /listinf o/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://www.lacralo.org >
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Dear Antonio: The translation is not good but I think I got the sense of what you wished to say. With respect, you are wrong on both the facts and the procedure. I urge you to read the voting procedures again to see how the raw votes are counted and the weight of each raw vote. As presiding officer I have a duty to certify the vote. It is clear that an arithmetic error in the preliminary count gave the result in favour of Sergio Salinas Porto. This was wrong since it did not reflect the votes of the members. And at the conclusion of the offical count, the error was recognized and communicated. This error was material, meaning the voters returned Andres Piazza as Chair of LACRALO. The principle at stake here is that it is the vote in the General Assembly that is supreme. Devnet's vote was not counted in the preliminary result. If the false preliminary result was accepted, Devnet would have been disenfranchised. It is the duty of the presiding officer to accept and certify the official results. I am satisfied that all the votes were counted. My duty is to allow all members to be satisfied also. This is easy enough. All you ahve to do is confirm your own vote. If you ahve a difficulty in recall, the recording of the meeting will give you support. Warm regards, Carlton Samuels. 2009/3/19 <amedinagomez@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Resultados_de_elecci=F3n_para_la _ = =?iso-8859-1?q?silla_y_la_secretar=EDa_en_Ciudad_de_M=E9xico = From: amedinagomez@gmail.com
19 of March of 2009 An Assembly is the Maxima authority of a decision device, is sovereign and actua with total autonomy. In right the decisions taken in the development of an assembly are inmodificables. It does not correspond to him to Carlton Samues to say at this moment that one appeared error and simply by means of a delayed electronic mail to propose modifications to an act of such nature. This is not its responsibility and it is a decision that cannot and that does not correspond to him to take. I feel much.
From our point of view the Assembly of Lacralo made in Mexico, it fulfilled to cabalidad with the totality of the requirements and procedures established, which we respected without a doubt, with which I allow myself to affirm that the selections, decisions and resolutions adopted in thisassembly they are effective and I repeat are inmodificables.
Antonio Medina Go'mez President Colombian association of Users of Internet
2009/3/19 <carlton.samuels@uwimona.edu.jm>
[ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]] > > > Subject: Re: Results of selection for the chair and the secretariat in City of > Mexico > Of: carlton.samuels@uwimona.edu.jm > > Dear Colleagues: > Like he is disclosed by the official account and like official > presidency, I called > selection in the officious results that were indicated incorrectly. > Tengo > emphatic DevNet and they are consulted with who its vote is counted. > Therefore and by the level file, Seat of Andres de Ageia Densi > Argentina > becomes like chair of LACRALO for period 2009 with possibility a > reelíjase. > > Since the selection for the secretariat was based on resultadodel > the selection for the chair, the selection for the secretariat is null and without > effect. > Therefore, the selection of the Seat of Andres de Ageia Densi Argentina > like > puts to a side the LACRALO secretariat and the new appointments are > opened. > > I am declaring the appointments for the post of the secretariat, L!
ACRALO > I open myself like in > 0000 hours of UTC march Fridays, twentieth and extreme in 2359 hours of > UTC Thursday twenty sixth > March of 2009. The appointments are due to do generally of the way > to the LAC-DISCUSS > list. > > the voting will be in line and begin as of 0900 hours of UTC > Friday, 27mo > extreme March of 2009 and in 1500 hours of UTC Friday, 3de April of > 2009. Or like > soon as he is reasonable, depending on service load of the personnel. > > good Respect, > Carlton Samuels > > ==================================================================================================
2009/3/19 Ashton-Ciervo Of Mella <Nick.Ashton-Hart@icann.org> > > Wanted Members of LACRALO: > > later carefully to review > recordings of LACRALO GA whereas > is prepared the official file > of the voting by the positions of the LACRALO chair and > secretariat, us > forces to inform to him that an error in the calculation > into the results for > selectio!
n of the chair has been discovered > > the error is that! the vot e of > to be able of DevNet (Guyana) was not including in > counts of the vote. It was this vote > including, because you will see enasociado > the documents, the result of > selection would have been different and Andres > the Seat would have been chosen > chair > > we have investigated the ordinary rules of the procedure > deLACRALO, as well as > the rules of UNGA that are incorporated by > reference enlas ordinary rules > neither nor others fixed anticipate > errors in the process of the selection > like Carlton Samuels was the official > of presidency in the that then selections was > lead, under rules > of the procedure ordinary is! > tá so that it governs ignition > how this situation will be solved. > we have spoken with Carlton, and he > will soon send an email to theregion in > this subject with his > governing in the matter > > passed but not it > less, desire to extend my vindications to name of all > personal En-Grande!
for our part in this situation, and detail to > affected candidates > by the situation > > the translation of A of this note in Spanish, as well as > to have associate, is being > prepared as quickly as we can and we will be sent WHATEVER BEFORE > > -- > respect, > > Ashton-Ciervo Of > Mella, Matthias Langenegger, Heidi Ullrich, Marie-Hélène > Bouchoms > > Personal En-Grande of ICANN > email: staff@atlarge.icann.org> > > _______________________________________________ > list that it sends > lacquer-discuss-lac-discuss-in > lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en_atlarge-lists...; > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (in) > http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/b9587b23c4.html> --]] > > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es@atla!
rge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman! /listinf o/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://www.lacralo.org > _______________________________________________
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