[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: VOTE NOTICE: VOTE FOR REPRESENTATIVE 2015 LACRALO ALAC / 2015 REPRESENTATIVE TO VOTE FOR LACRALO ALAC From: hcarrascob@gmail.com Lord Samuels, To clarify an our position, we want to explain the nature of the which is the point of order. Rules of Procedure of the UNGA, in particular, Article 79 ANNEX IV (a) of the Rules of the General Assembly, gives a concept of the that is a point of order: 79. ComitEspecial recommends to the General Assembly the adoption DESCRIPTION following concept as points of order [Para. 229]: "* _Fundamentalmente A question of order is a targeted intervention the President requesting him to make use of specific attribution inherent in his office or specifically conferred on him reglamento_ *. You can, for example, relate to how to direct the debate, law enforcement, the enforcement of regulations or the way in which presiding officers exercise the powers conferred on them by regulation. Under a matter of order, a representative may ask the President to apply a certain article of the regulation or challenge the way in which the officer applies the article. For the Therefore, the representatives may, within the scope of the regulation, point out to the President's attention infringements or applications incorrect's rules by other representatives or by self President. A question of order has precedence over any other matter, including procedural motions (Articles 73 [114] [Article 71 [113] of these rules.] And 79 [120] [Article 77 [119] of these rules.]). "Points of order raised under Article 73 [114] entraan matters requiring a decision by the President, with sujecina You apelacin possible.* _The Differ, therefore motions procedure to treat artculos_ * 76 [117] [Article 74 [116] of these rules.] To 79 [120] [Rule 77 [119] of this regulation.], which can be decided only by respect votaciny which can be treated at the same time more than a motion, which order of precedence established in Article 79 [120] [Rule 77 [119] of these rules.]. * _The Also differ orders informacino aclaraciny of the comments referred to material arrangements (seating, interpretation system, room temperature), documents, translations, etc., that while may have to be dealt President, they do not require a decision Formal hand. However, in accordance with established practice the United Nations, a representative who has intention to present a motion of procedure or request informacino aclaracin with often raises a "question of order" to obtain the use of word.This use, which is based on practices reasons, should not confused with the raising of points of order under Article 73 [114] ._ * If your petition is reviewed, it President / is not directed to ask you to make use of some inherent attribution charge or that specifically confers regulations / if not requesting / That the General Assembly demonstrates its confidence in the leaders faltade LACRALO and vote on estamocin. / In simple terms, what you. Says that is a point of order, reality is not. It is therefore not possible to give such treatment .// Cheers On 10/09/2015 at 3:41, carlton.samuels@gmail.com wrote:

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Asunto: Re: AVISO VOTO: 2015 VOTO PARA REPRESENTANTE LACRALO ALAC / 2015 VOTO PARA REPRESENTANTE A LA LACRALO ALAC De: carlton.samuels@gmail.com

Humberto: Con el mayor de la paciencia, te equivocas. De nuevo.

Se recomienda leer el movimiento de nuevo a continuación, consulte la Regla de Procedimiento de cerca. Regla 18 contiene la autoridad y orientación para la acción.

La moción fue programado para una Asamblea General. La cuestión relativa al votar y distribución de credenciales a los miembros lo hizo tan.

El voto es la cuestión de decisión.

Todas las razones para el movimiento se concatenan; una asamblea ilegal, un fracaso del proceso, etc. El voto es la cuestión objeto de debate.

Si usted no entiende la razón de no invocar la Regla 8, puedo explicar a usted.

Redacté las Reglas originales de Procedimiento y mantengo el competente la autoridad.

Ritz-Carlton Samuels

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El Miércoles, 09 de septiembre 2015 a las 5:32 de la tarde, Humberto Carrasco <hcarrascob@gmail.com> escribió:

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Dear Jacqueline,

By this email we respond to your request.

Overall, we estimate that we cannot suspend the election for the following reasons:

1. The voting process began on Thursday, September 3, 2015, and runs until Thursday, September 10, 2015 until 23:00 hours.

2. The motion of Mr. Samuels was presented on Friday, September 4, 2015.

In his email, Mr. Samuels raised a Point of Order and offered a motion of NO CONFIDENCE in the LACRALO leadership.

He pointed out some arguments to justify his action and then he ended with:

"Resolved:

That the general assembly demonstrate its lack of confidence in the LACRALO leadership and vote on this motion."

Thus, this paragraph says nothing about any suspension.

3. On 5 September, we informed to Mr Samuels that we requested an official translation to Spanish of his motion to be sent to the LACRALO's Spanish list.

4. Subsequently, the 7th of September 2015 Alberto Soto informed that he had asked for legal advice from ICANN’s legal staff regarding this motion of censure.

5. The RoP in Articles 8.1 and 8.2 states the following:

8.1 During a discussion, any delegate may raise a point of order; such a point of order shall be immediately decided upon by the presiding officer.

8.2 An appeal may be made against the ruling of the presiding officer. Such an appeal shall be put to the vote immediately and the presiding officer's ruling shall stand, unless overruled by a simple majority of the ALS present and voting.

These rules are silent regarding any suspension. Neither there has been any appeal. In any case, an appeal did not suspend the current vote.

6. There are articles relating to the suspension in Rule 9 that provides:

Rule 9 - Procedural Motions

9.1 During a discussion, any delegate may move the suspension or adjournment of the meeting or the adjournment or closure of the debate.

9.2 Such a motion shall be put to the vote immediately. Subject to Rule 8.1, such motions shall have precedence in the following order over all other proposals or motions before the meeting:

(a) Suspension of the meeting;

(b) Adjournment of the meeting;

(c) Adjournment of the debate on the question under discussion;

(d) Closure of the debate on the question under discussion.

7. - Finally, with regard to the arguments and accusations of Mr. Samuels, they will be answered once the official translation into Spanish is sent to the LACRALO's Spanish list.

Regards.

Alberto Soto Humberto Carrasco

El 09/09/2015 a las 15:39, Jacqueline Morris escribió:

Hi Humberto I'm confused - there was a motion on the table from Carlton - the motion of No Confidence. According to the RoP, this motion needs to be debated and voted BEFORE the vote on ALAC rep can continue (it takes precedence). This hasn't been done, so how can the vote on ALAC rep be ending tomorrow? Or was there a vote on the motion and I missed it?

I am particularly concerned given the number of procedural mistakes that seem to have occurred recently. We don't want more issues with this vote.

Jacqueline A. Morris Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> )

2015-09-09 9:18 GMT-04:00 <hcarrascob@gmail.com>:

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Subject: Re: VOTE NOTICE: 2015 VOTE FOR REPRESENTATIVE LACRALO ALAC / 2015 VOTE FOR REPRESENTATIVE TO THE LACRALO ALAC From: hcarrascob@gmail.com

Dear,

Do not forget that within Voting ends tomorrow Thursday 10 September 2015 at 23:00 UTC.

Cheers

The 04/09/2015 at 0:00, staff@atlarge.icann.org wrote:

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Asunto: VOTO ANUNCIO: 2015 VOTO PARA LACRALO ALAC REPRESENTANTE / 2015 VOTO PARA REPRESENTANTE DE LACRALO ANTE EL ALAC De: staff@atlarge.icann.org

[ES] Queridos todos,

LACRALOs Presidencia y Secretaría gustaría anunciar el inicio de la votación al Representante LACRALO ALAC para el período de dos años a partir de las Al final de la reunión de Dublín ICANN en octubre de 2015. Esta encuesta estará abierta desde jueves 03 septiembre 2015 hasta Jueves 10 de septiembre 2015 a las 23:00 UTC.

*** PREGUNTA: ¿A quién apoyas a convertirse en el ALAC Representante LACRALO para el período de dos años a partir de finales de la reunión de la ICANN en Dublín 10 2015? Por favor, seleccionar un candidato de la lista de abajo (que se enumeran por orden alfabético del nombre de la familia) o abstenerse: * Harold Arcos * Juan Manuel Rojas * Abstenerse *** Información adicional se puede encontrar en la página de elecciones Wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/moAQAw.

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[ES] Hola a todos,

El Presidente y secretario de LACRALOs quisieran anunciar el inicio del por voto párrafo Elegir al Representante de LACRALO ante el ALAC Representante EL PERIODO DE 2 aos Empezando al final de de la reunin de Dubln en Octubre del 2015. La votacin estarabierta desde el Lunes 03 de Setiembre 2015 al Viernes 10 de Setiembre 2015 a las 23:00 UTC.

*** PREGUNTA: A quien Elige Usted Para Ser Representante del LACRALO ante el ALAC POR EL PERIODO DE 2 aos Comenzando en la reunión de la ICANN en Octubre del 2015? Por favor ELIJA UN Candidato de la Lista Abajo (en Orden alfabtico) o abstngase: * Harold Arcos * Juan Manuel Rojas * Abstencin *** Informacin Adicional Se Puede Encontrar En La pgina WIKI: https://community.icann.org/x/moAQAw.

Saludos,

Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie Peregrine y Terri Agnew El personal de ICANN política en apoyo de ALAC E-mail: staff@atlarge.icann.org Facebook: www.facebook.com/icann < <https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> AtLarge < https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> Twitter: @ < https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge> < https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>

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