From: lac-discuss-en <lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Vanda Scartezini <vanda@scartezini.org> Date: Friday, December 1, 2017 at 15:51 To: Dev Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com>, LACRALO list <lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Domainincite: Brazil loses its only (ICANN accredited) registrar Actually, they stopped to be a Registrar since they got. UOL as their new gTLD in 2013. Daniel Fink and myself have been talking around the country to encourage ISPs and others to become a Registrar, but even if we got reduced exigencies from ICANN we had no success!! Less and less registrars in the region… the add value is small and they can sell names just becoming a reseller… Vanda Scartezini Polo Consultores Associados Av. Paulista 1159, cj 1004 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 Sorry for any typos. From: lac-discuss-en <lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Dev Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com> Date: Friday, December 1, 2017 at 15:36 To: LACRALO list <lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: [lac-discuss-en] Domainincite: Brazil loses its only (ICANN accredited) registrar From http://domainincite.com/22348-brazil-loses-its-only-registrar-as-uol-bows-ou... “There are now no ICANN accredited registrars in Brazil, following the termination of Universo Online’s contract this week” According to Domainincite, the accreditation was ended at UOL’s request. Wasn’t more ICANN accredited registrars seen as crucial for growing the DNS industry especially when it comes to future gTLDs applications coming from the LAC region ? Dev Anand

Vanda, Dev, that can also be seen as a failure or at least an opportunity for improvement in the strategy, including LACRALO and At Large. The value added for a company that sells names by becoming an accredited registrar is in providing better consumer protection bbased on the RAA and RRA. That should drive more and better-paying clients to register domain names with them instead of as a reseller. So maybe the LAC strategy has to reduce its focus on talking to the business community and increase this kind of message to the consumers, so that they will learn to buy domain name registration from better sellers. Hard to achieve, if we look at the huge informal markets in our region, but at least we know this is a point to focus on. Alejandro Pisanty. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Facultad de Química UNAM Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico +52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD +525541444475 DESDE MÉXICO SMS +525541444475 Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ________________________________ Desde: lac-discuss-en [lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] en nombre de Vanda Scartezini [vanda@scartezini.org] Enviado el: viernes, 01 de diciembre de 2017 11:50 Hasta: Dev Anand Teelucksingh; LACRALO discussion list Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Domainincite: Brazil loses its only (ICANN accredited) registrar Actually, they stopped to be a Registrar since they got. UOL as their new gTLD in 2013. Daniel Fink and myself have been talking around the country to encourage ISPs and others to become a Registrar, but even if we got reduced exigencies from ICANN we had no success!! Less and less registrars in the region… the add value is small and they can sell names just becoming a reseller… Vanda Scartezini Polo Consultores Associados Av. Paulista 1159, cj 1004 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 Sorry for any typos. From: lac-discuss-en <lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Dev Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com> Date: Friday, December 1, 2017 at 15:36 To: LACRALO list <lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: [lac-discuss-en] Domainincite: Brazil loses its only (ICANN accredited) registrar From http://domainincite.com/22348-brazil-loses-its-only-registrar-as-uol-bows-ou... “There are now no ICANN accredited registrars in Brazil, following the termination of Universo Online’s contract this week” According to Domainincite, the accreditation was ended at UOL’s request. Wasn’t more ICANN accredited registrars seen as crucial for growing the DNS industry especially when it comes to future gTLDs applications coming from the LAC region ? Dev Anand

Vanda, well... that defeats the purpose, doesn't it? I mean, it is a good action and an achievable goal, but it postpones the creation of registrars by the same people. They may get to it, hopefully, but much later. Alejandro Pisanty - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Facultad de Química UNAM Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico +52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD +525541444475 DESDE MÉXICO SMS +525541444475 Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ________________________________ Desde: Vanda Scartezini [vanda@scartezini.org] Enviado el: sábado, 02 de diciembre de 2017 13:45 Hasta: Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch CC: LACRALO list Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Domainincite: Brazil loses its only (ICANN accredited) registrar Indeed Alex, but what we really see is foreign Registrars as Go Daddy getting all clients. One thing that I am seeing in Brazil is people more and more aware of their rights and demanding their domains be from accredited registrars.. In our Entrepreneurs Program under DNS WOMEN we are capacitating women to become Resseler from 2013 Accredited Registrars. At least this makes more sense for me for developing regions. Kisses Vanda Scartezini Polo Consultores Associados Av. Paulista 1159, cj 1004 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 Sorry for any typos. From: Alejandro Baruch <apisan@unam.mx> Date: Friday, December 1, 2017 at 17:56 To: Vanda Scartezini <vanda@scartezini.org>, Dev Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com>, LACRALO list <lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: RE: [lac-discuss-en] Domainincite: Brazil loses its only (ICANN accredited) registrar Vanda, Dev, that can also be seen as a failure or at least an opportunity for improvement in the strategy, including LACRALO and At Large. The value added for a company that sells names by becoming an accredited registrar is in providing better consumer protection bbased on the RAA and RRA. That should drive more and better-paying clients to register domain names with them instead of as a reseller. So maybe the LAC strategy has to reduce its focus on talking to the business community and increase this kind of message to the consumers, so that they will learn to buy domain name registration from better sellers. Hard to achieve, if we look at the huge informal markets in our region, but at least we know this is a point to focus on. Alejandro Pisanty. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Facultad de Química UNAM Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico +52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD +525541444475 DESDE MÉXICO SMS +525541444475 Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ________________________________ Desde: lac-discuss-en [lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] en nombre de Vanda Scartezini [vanda@scartezini.org] Enviado el: viernes, 01 de diciembre de 2017 11:50 Hasta: Dev Anand Teelucksingh; LACRALO discussion list Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Domainincite: Brazil loses its only (ICANN accredited) registrar Actually, they stopped to be a Registrar since they got. UOL as their new gTLD in 2013. Daniel Fink and myself have been talking around the country to encourage ISPs and others to become a Registrar, but even if we got reduced exigencies from ICANN we had no success!! Less and less registrars in the region… the add value is small and they can sell names just becoming a reseller… Vanda Scartezini Polo Consultores Associados Av. Paulista 1159, cj 1004 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 Sorry for any typos. From: lac-discuss-en <lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Dev Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com> Date: Friday, December 1, 2017 at 15:36 To: LACRALO list <lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: [lac-discuss-en] Domainincite: Brazil loses its only (ICANN accredited) registrar From http://domainincite.com/22348-brazil-loses-its-only-registrar-as-uol-bows-ou... “There are now no ICANN accredited registrars in Brazil, following the termination of Universo Online’s contract this week” According to Domainincite, the accreditation was ended at UOL’s request. Wasn’t more ICANN accredited registrars seen as crucial for growing the DNS industry especially when it comes to future gTLDs applications coming from the LAC region ? Dev Anand