Reunion with Ombudsman - Summary
[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Reunion with Ombudsman - Summary From: josefranciscoarce@gmail.com Dear, I wanted to make some comments before of the meeting of morning with the Ombudsman to be held on Wednesdays June 27, 2012 to 7 AM hour of Prague, 2 a.m. when Argentina. The reunin by ms have asked ICANN staff interpretation, I can confirm that this service will not be available. a) This was the agenda of the last call: Draft order of the day: - 1. Revision of the final discussion Mediation - 2. Report of the choice - 3. Report the progress of the new rules adopcin procedural - 4.Discussion on a communication cuts as this prescribed in the rules of ICANN rules, and a reminder of the need keep the emails and discussions focused on issues and not on personalities. - 5. Discussion about what LACRALO would like to see on your future governance. Culture is an integral vision, role and LACRALO was achieved with the division. In the last reunin avanzmucho ombudsman regarding discusiny alternatives for the next steps regarding the general assembly empezen Costa Rica. Empezrecapitulando regarding rules procedure and is now a work in ALAC estelaborando on rules but on a larger scale and with more depth. Consideration was given to the general assembly empezy reached a point where approved the agenda of the same, and we all agree that it should start over and closed. But the challenge will in how to do it. It should be hablde close the meeting without voting points as imply otherwise perform double duty. Should expect the results of the working group on ALAC Modifying RoP. The Ombudsman proposed holding a RESOLUTION in the assembly General to close it. And see how it is a challenge (37 minutes and 41 audio). Discutisobre the quorum is to reopen the general assembly. CLO proposed a new quorum (48 minutes of audio), but did not say what or where to buscarlo.Todos ESTN agree that must be completed and to be do, but the process of calling the general assembly and make it Whether work discussion. It was proposed to make on-line. * * * Now I want to summarize the positions from my point of view *: 1) Restart the AG and vote item by item. 2) Restart the AG by resoluciny vote for the Cancellation of all the scores related to the changes to the rules of procedure and continue the on-line assembly. Each of these points have their advantages and disadvantages, which the discuss tomorrow. The way we adopt to carry out the the same look, according to the best knowledge and belief, with support from staff ICANN. I just ask you to think that if we reach this point (a meeting with a facilitator) is because there are parts (no matter if they are two, three or four) not agree especfico and not come because there contradictory thoughts in a particular subject, but that does not means that there are no issues or thoughts in common. And we, all, think of the whole region and to project our thoughts to the future. "* The majority of our mistakes in life that are born when we think, feel, and when we feel, think * "John Churton Collins. AGENDA morning: Agenda with Ombudsman: * https://community.icann.org/x/KgwQAg* Adobe Connect: * http://icann.adobeconnect.com/lacralo * Greetings!! JosArce. - _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/d958140b62.html --]]
Dear All, Please note that we will have interpretation LIVE here in Prague in the meeting room. For those attending remotely, you will only be able to hear the streaming of the meeting room (LIVE recording in which ever language is being spoken in the room at the time). Thank you. Regards, Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, and Nathalie Peregrine ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC E-mail: staff@atlarge.icann.org On 26/06/2012 20:00, "josefranciscoarce@gmail.com" <josefranciscoarce@gmail.com> wrote:
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Subject: Reunion with Ombudsman - Summary From: josefranciscoarce@gmail.com
Dear,
I wanted to make some comments before of the meeting of morning with the Ombudsman to be held on Wednesdays June 27, 2012 to 7 AM hour of Prague, 2 a.m. when Argentina. The reunin by ms have asked ICANN staff interpretation, I can confirm that this service will not be available.
a) This was the agenda of the last call:
Draft order of the day:
- 1. Revision of the final discussion Mediation - 2. Report of the choice - 3. Report the progress of the new rules adopcin procedural - 4.Discussion on a communication cuts as this prescribed in the rules of ICANN rules, and a reminder of the need keep the emails and discussions focused on issues and not on personalities. - 5. Discussion about what LACRALO would like to see on your future governance. Culture is an integral vision, role and LACRALO was achieved with the division.
In the last reunin avanzmucho ombudsman regarding discusiny alternatives for the next steps regarding the general assembly empezen Costa Rica. Empezrecapitulando regarding rules procedure and is now a work in ALAC estelaborando on rules but on a larger scale and with more depth.
Consideration was given to the general assembly empezy reached a point where approved the agenda of the same, and we all agree that it should start over and closed. But the challenge will in how to do it.
It should be hablde close the meeting without voting points as imply otherwise perform double duty. Should expect the results of the working group on ALAC Modifying RoP.
The Ombudsman proposed holding a RESOLUTION in the assembly General to close it. And see how it is a challenge (37 minutes and 41 audio).
Discutisobre the quorum is to reopen the general assembly. CLO proposed a new quorum (48 minutes of audio), but did not say what or where to buscarlo.Todos ESTN agree that must be completed and to be do, but the process of calling the general assembly and make it Whether work discussion. It was proposed to make on-line.
* *
* Now I want to summarize the positions from my point of view *:
1) Restart the AG and vote item by item.
2) Restart the AG by resoluciny vote for the Cancellation of all the scores related to the changes to the rules of procedure and continue the on-line assembly.
Each of these points have their advantages and disadvantages, which the discuss tomorrow. The way we adopt to carry out the the same look, according to the best knowledge and belief, with support from staff ICANN.
I just ask you to think that if we reach this point (a meeting with a facilitator) is because there are parts (no matter if they are two, three or four) not agree especfico and not come because there contradictory thoughts in a particular subject, but that does not means that there are no issues or thoughts in common. And we, all, think of the whole region and to project our thoughts to the future.
"* The majority of our mistakes in life that are born when we think, feel, and when we feel, think * "John Churton Collins.
AGENDA morning:
Agenda with Ombudsman: * https://community.icann.org/x/KgwQAg*
Adobe Connect: * http://icann.adobeconnect.com/lacralo *
Greetings!!
JosArce. - _______________________________________________
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Dear Staff, I will need a dial-out to this number: 57 8 6846656 Best Regards, JUAN MANUEL ROJAS Comunicador Social Presidente - AGEIA DENSI Colombia Twitter: @JmanuRojas Unete a LACRALO: https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es ________________________________ De: At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org> Para: "lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org" <lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Enviado: Martes, 26 de junio, 2012 5:41 P.M. Asunto: [lac-discuss-en] ES Interpretation in Prague / Reunion with Ombudsman - Summary Dear All, Please note that we will have interpretation LIVE here in Prague in the meeting room. For those attending remotely, you will only be able to hear the streaming of the meeting room (LIVE recording in which ever language is being spoken in the room at the time). Thank you. Regards, Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, and Nathalie Peregrine ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC E-mail: staff@atlarge.icann.org On 26/06/2012 20:00, "josefranciscoarce@gmail.com" <josefranciscoarce@gmail.com> wrote:
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Subject: Reunion with Ombudsman - Summary From: josefranciscoarce@gmail.com
Dear,
I wanted to make some comments before of the meeting of morning with the Ombudsman to be held on Wednesdays June 27, 2012 to 7 AM hour of Prague, 2 a.m. when Argentina. The reunin by ms have asked ICANN staff interpretation, I can confirm that this service will not be available.
a) This was the agenda of the last call:
Draft order of the day:
- 1. Revision of the final discussion Mediation - 2. Report of the choice - 3. Report the progress of the new rules adopcin procedural - 4.Discussion on a communication cuts as this prescribed in the rules of ICANN rules, and a reminder of the need keep the emails and
discussions focused on issues and not on
personalities. - 5. Discussion about what LACRALO would like to see on your future governance. Culture is an integral vision, role and LACRALO was achieved with the division.
In the last reunin avanzmucho ombudsman regarding discusiny alternatives for the next steps regarding the general assembly empezen Costa Rica. Empezrecapitulando regarding rules procedure and is now a work in ALAC estelaborando on rules but on a larger scale and with more depth.
Consideration was given to the general assembly empezy reached a point where approved the agenda of the same, and we all agree that it should start over and closed. But the challenge will in how to do it.
It should be hablde close the meeting without voting points as imply otherwise perform double duty. Should expect the results of the working group on ALAC Modifying RoP.
The Ombudsman proposed holding a RESOLUTION in the assembly General to close it. And see how it is a challenge (37 minutes and 41 audio).
Discutisobre the quorum is to reopen the general assembly. CLO proposed a new quorum (48 minutes of audio), but did not say what or where to buscarlo.Todos ESTN agree that must be completed and to be do, but the process of calling the general assembly and make it Whether work discussion. It was proposed to make on-line.
* *
* Now I want to summarize the positions from my point of view *:
1) Restart the AG and vote item by item.
2) Restart the AG by resoluciny vote for the Cancellation of all the scores related to the changes to the rules of procedure and continue the on-line assembly.
Each of these points have their advantages and disadvantages, which the discuss tomorrow. The way we adopt to carry out the the same look, according to the best knowledge and belief, with support from staff ICANN.
I just ask you to think that if we reach this point (a meeting with a facilitator) is because there are parts (no matter if they are two, three or four) not agree especfico and not come because there contradictory thoughts in a particular subject, but that does not means that there are no issues or thoughts in common. And we, all, think of the whole region and to project our thoughts to the future.
"* The majority of our mistakes in life that are born when we think, feel, and when we feel, think * "John Churton Collins.
AGENDA morning:
Agenda with Ombudsman: * https://community.icann.org/x/KgwQAg*
Adobe Connect: * http://icann.adobeconnect.com/lacralo *
Greetings!!
JosArce. - _______________________________________________
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The quote lost almost all sense in translation. Here's the original in English. "Half our mistakes in life arise from feeling where we ought to think, and thinking where we ought to feel. John Churton Collins Jacqueline A. Morris Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and Free. (after Chris Lehmann ) On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 8:00 PM, <josefranciscoarce@gmail.com> wrote:
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Subject: Reunion with Ombudsman - Summary From: josefranciscoarce@gmail.com
Dear,
I wanted to make some comments before of the meeting of morning with the Ombudsman to be held on Wednesdays June 27, 2012 to 7 AM hour of Prague, 2 a.m. when Argentina. The reunin by ms have asked ICANN staff interpretation, I can confirm that this service will not be available.
a) This was the agenda of the last call:
Draft order of the day:
- 1. Revision of the final discussion Mediation - 2. Report of the choice - 3. Report the progress of the new rules adopcin procedural - 4.Discussion on a communication cuts as this prescribed in the rules of ICANN rules, and a reminder of the need keep the emails and discussions focused on issues and not on personalities. - 5. Discussion about what LACRALO would like to see on your future governance. Culture is an integral vision, role and LACRALO was achieved with the division.
In the last reunin avanzmucho ombudsman regarding discusiny alternatives for the next steps regarding the general assembly empezen Costa Rica. Empezrecapitulando regarding rules procedure and is now a work in ALAC estelaborando on rules but on a larger scale and with more depth.
Consideration was given to the general assembly empezy reached a point where approved the agenda of the same, and we all agree that it should start over and closed. But the challenge will in how to do it.
It should be hablde close the meeting without voting points as imply otherwise perform double duty. Should expect the results of the working group on ALAC Modifying RoP.
The Ombudsman proposed holding a RESOLUTION in the assembly General to close it. And see how it is a challenge (37 minutes and 41 audio).
Discutisobre the quorum is to reopen the general assembly. CLO proposed a new quorum (48 minutes of audio), but did not say what or where to buscarlo.Todos ESTN agree that must be completed and to be do, but the process of calling the general assembly and make it Whether work discussion. It was proposed to make on-line.
* *
* Now I want to summarize the positions from my point of view *:
1) Restart the AG and vote item by item.
2) Restart the AG by resoluciny vote for the Cancellation of all the scores related to the changes to the rules of procedure and continue the on-line assembly.
Each of these points have their advantages and disadvantages, which the discuss tomorrow. The way we adopt to carry out the the same look, according to the best knowledge and belief, with support from staff ICANN.
I just ask you to think that if we reach this point (a meeting with a facilitator) is because there are parts (no matter if they are two, three or four) not agree especfico and not come because there contradictory thoughts in a particular subject, but that does not means that there are no issues or thoughts in common. And we, all, think of the whole region and to project our thoughts to the future.
"* The majority of our mistakes in life that are born when we think, feel, and when we feel, think * "John Churton Collins.
AGENDA morning:
Agenda with Ombudsman: * https://community.icann.org/x/KgwQAg*
Adobe Connect: * http://icann.adobeconnect.com/lacralo *
Greetings!!
JosArce. - _______________________________________________
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Thanks Jacqueline !!! :) José Arce.- 2012/6/27 Jacqueline Morris <jam@jacquelinemorris.com>
The quote lost almost all sense in translation. Here's the original in English.
"Half our mistakes in life arise from feeling where we ought to think, and thinking where we ought to feel. John Churton Collins
Jacqueline A. Morris Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and Free. (after Chris Lehmann )
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 8:00 PM, <josefranciscoarce@gmail.com> wrote:
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Subject: Reunion with Ombudsman - Summary From: josefranciscoarce@gmail.com
Dear,
I wanted to make some comments before of the meeting of morning with the Ombudsman to be held on Wednesdays June 27, 2012 to 7 AM hour of Prague, 2 a.m. when Argentina. The reunin by ms have asked ICANN staff interpretation, I can confirm that this service will not be available.
a) This was the agenda of the last call:
Draft order of the day:
- 1. Revision of the final discussion Mediation - 2. Report of the choice - 3. Report the progress of the new rules adopcin procedural - 4.Discussion on a communication cuts as this prescribed in the rules of ICANN rules, and a reminder of the need keep the emails and discussions focused on issues and not on personalities. - 5. Discussion about what LACRALO would like to see on your future governance. Culture is an integral vision, role and LACRALO was achieved with the division.
In the last reunin avanzmucho ombudsman regarding discusiny alternatives for the next steps regarding the general assembly empezen Costa Rica. Empezrecapitulando regarding rules procedure and is now a work in ALAC estelaborando on rules but on a larger scale and with more depth.
Consideration was given to the general assembly empezy reached a point
where
approved the agenda of the same, and we all agree that it should start over and closed. But the challenge will in how to do it.
It should be hablde close the meeting without voting points as imply otherwise perform double duty. Should expect the results of the working group on ALAC Modifying RoP.
The Ombudsman proposed holding a RESOLUTION in the assembly General to close it. And see how it is a challenge (37 minutes and 41 audio).
Discutisobre the quorum is to reopen the general assembly. CLO proposed a new quorum (48 minutes of audio), but did not say what or where to buscarlo.Todos ESTN agree that must be completed and to be do, but the process of calling the general assembly and make it Whether work discussion. It was proposed to make on-line.
* *
* Now I want to summarize the positions from my point of view *:
1) Restart the AG and vote item by item.
2) Restart the AG by resoluciny vote for the Cancellation of all the scores related to the changes to the rules of procedure and continue the on-line assembly.
Each of these points have their advantages and disadvantages, which the discuss tomorrow. The way we adopt to carry out the the same look, according to the best knowledge and belief, with support from staff ICANN.
I just ask you to think that if we reach this point (a meeting with a facilitator) is because there are parts (no matter if they are two, three or four) not agree especfico and not come because there contradictory thoughts in a particular subject, but that does not means that there are no issues or thoughts in common. And we, all, think of the whole region and to project our thoughts to the future.
"* The majority of our mistakes in life that are born when we think, feel, and when we feel, think * "John Churton Collins.
AGENDA morning:
Agenda with Ombudsman: * https://community.icann.org/x/KgwQAg*
Adobe Connect: * http://icann.adobeconnect.com/lacralo *
Greetings!!
JosArce. - _______________________________________________
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participants (5)
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At-Large Staff -
Jacqueline Morris -
josefranciscoarce＠gmail.com -
José Francisco Arce
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Juan Manuel Rojas