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From: sylvia@internautabrasil.org > To: apisan@servidor.unam.mx > Date: Mon, 7 DEC 2009 07:01:27 -0200 > CC: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] HEAD OF CATTLE: individual direct selection or not - LACRALO - point noun for the teleconferencing > > > Loved Alexander, > Coincido with you and inclusively already habiamos spoken onthis command post Seul. > All we know the dificil that is to obtain the participation of all when > we organized the ALAC Summit de Mexico. > Reason why I consider that the best thing would be not to consider the 2 last ones > options to conciderar them unproductive and of dificil accomplishment. And me > gustaria to add desnecesarias, since each Thin one already has chosen his > representing and its authorities for this type of desicionesamong others > things. > Greetings, > Sylvia > _________________________________________________________ > Sylvia Herlein Leite > LACRALO-ALAC Liaison > Latin America & Re! gional Caribbean AT-Large Organization > sylvia@internautabrasil.org > > > > > -----Mensagem original > Of: Alexander Pisanty [ mailto:apisan@servidor.unam.mx ] > Shipment command post: Sunday, 6 of dezembro of 2009 17:58 > For: sylvia@prontocl > Cc: ' alberto sotó; ' Jose Ovid Salgueiró; > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > Assunto: individual direct selection or - LACRALO - point noun does not stop > the teleconferencing > > Hello, > > in forecast in which, by trip, it cannot participate in the session of > teleconferencing of this Monday, permítanme to paortar an opinion that I request to them > to transmit. If they agree in addition I invite to them to support it. > > Reviewing the document in > https://st.icann.org/working-groups/index.cgi?At-Large%20Draft%20Procedure%2 > 0for%20Appointment%20of%20a%20Director > that talks about the procedures to choose a member of the Council > Director of ICANN from the AT-Large, I notice in line 53 of the table, >! Option 5, that sets out the option of which all individual th! at expre sses his > interest to do it can emit a vote. > > This has been tried before and unequivocally demonstrated tolead to > dehorns. > > a selection cannot be better than its registry of voters. Itdoes not exist > registry of users of Internet, nor of individuals interestedin > AT-Large, nor no other that a registry of the population constitutes > preexisting to the selections. > > Consequently, the selection that we would have ahead would consist not of > to divide the electorate between the different options by which it can > to vote, but in attracting voters, with any argument, to additself to > register and to vote. This is analogous to loq ue has in thehistory of many > paíeses Latin American: caciques/candidatos raising hills by > farmers to take them to the squares with the instruction andcertainty that > will vote by "the correct" candidate. > > This procedure already presntó in the AT-Large, the selections of the year > 2000. It was called on to me to very follow ! them close by like part of the Committee of Nominations > (today equivalent to the one of Selection of Candidates) andlike member of the Board of > ICANN. The faults derived from the criterion described in the previous paragraph > votes by nationality, captures corporative, votes were multiple - of > clubs - and although they did not take to the cancellation of the selection and produced to > less three valuable directors competentesy, showed all > vulnerabilities of this process. > > Therefore the direct selection in this case, that to many itcan pareccer to us in > principle and by our traditions most democratic, becomes > perversely the most undemocratic option. > > then Reitero my request: > > 1. to who is in favor present of the region I request to transmit the previous criterion; > > 2. to those who are convinced of these arguments I request to them to express his > support so that this one also is transmitted in the teleconferencing. > > Warm greeting. > > Alex! ander Pisanty > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .! . . . . . > Dr Alexander Pisanty > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > > * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org. . . . . . . . . . . . >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > On Sun, 6 DEC 2009, sylvia@prontocl wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 6 DEC 2009 11:42:02 -0200 > > From: "sylvia@prontocl" <sylvia@prontocl.com.br> > > To: ' alberto sotó <asoto@ibero-americano.org>, > > "[ iso-8859-1 ] ' Jose Ovid Salgueiró" <salgueiro.jo@gmail.com> > > Cc: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ iso-8859-1 ] HEAD OF CATTLE: INVITATION stops > TELECONFERENCING > >! respect to the process of selection AT-Large Director -07of December a > > > 0800 UTC > > > > Wanted Alberto and Jose, > > According to I understand this Teleconferencing is for all the thin ones. He is not um > > internal subject of the LACRALO, but that is for all the thin ones. Between > > all we must decide which is the best method to choose to > > future director who will represent the ALAC and who will be part of the Board. > > This director will act and represent all the thin ones and will leave > > anyone of them or until is not necessary that it is part of uma of > > the thin ones if she is that between all we decided that the best person stops > > to represent to us is not part of a thin one then. They are many > > possibilities... And this teleconferencing is for giving more form him to > > that comes discussing since we knew on this new approved position > by the Board, the 27 of August 2009. > > Tenemos to de! cide on metodolgia, quíenes votarian, etc, etc. > > Fíjen! se that members of other thin ones already were made similarquestions > > and placed their positions command post wiki, > > http://www.atlarge.icann.org/wg/engagement-en.htm (although is command post > ingles). > > > > Aqui estan the opinions on the selection process and voting that > > made the NARALO and it placed it to consideration of all, > > http://www.atlarge.icann.org/wg/engagement-en.htm > > > > is outro Here wiki ocn more doubts, and the staff committed itself to look for > > the answers or to direct the doubt to that corresponds. Remember that > > in spite of being command post ingles, you can write Spanish command post; > > https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?questions_about_legal_or_othe > > r_issu > > is > > > > and is the requirements necessary here to postulate itself like candidate, > > according to the ICANN laws, > > https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?draft_candidate_requirements > > > > ! Any thing, does not doubt command post to ask to me! I will participate in > > teleconferencing tomorrow morning... > > Greetings, > > Sylvia > > _________________________________________________________ > > Sylvia Herlein Leite > > LACRALO-ALAC Liaison > > Latin America & Regional Caribbean AT-Large Organization > > sylvia@internautabrasil.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Mensagem original > > Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] command post nome of > > alberto Sent grove command post: Saturday, 5 of dezembro of 2009 18:57 > > For: ' Jose Ovid Salgueiró; sylvia@internautabrasil.org > > Cc: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Assunto: Re: [ lac-discuss-es]INVITACION for TELECONFERENCING respect > > of the process of selection AT-Large Director -07 of December to 0800 > > UTC > > > > Considered, I have t! he same restlessness that Jose Ovid Salgueiro, > > I belie! ve that they ameritan an aclamation, including a rectification. > > warm Greetings > > > > Dr Alberto Grove > > Director IIISI > > > > original -----Mensaje > > Of: lac-discuss-he is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of > > Jose Ovid Sent Salgueiro: Saturday, 05 of December of 2009 05:38 > p.m. > > For: sylvia@internautabrasil.org > > CC: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-es]INVITACION for TELECONFERENCING respect > > of the process of selection AT-Large Director -07 of December to 0800 > > UTC > > > > Entiendo qie is a world-wide conference but qusiera they clarified two to me > > things if it is possible: > > > > 1. So that a subject which I understand internal of Lacralo has > > to discuss itself at this level 2. Even being a subject of the interest of ours > > Thin is in ingles and to one hour so inconvenie! nt for theregion > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > JOS > > > > the 05/12/09, sylvia@internautabrasil.org <sylvia@internautabrasil.org> > > wrote: > > > Loved Jose: > > > I do not know if I have the correct answer for that question, but have > > understood > > > that the teleconferencing will be world-wide, for all the regions... without > > > no type of interpretation... It is why they are possible to be done > > > questions command post wiki command post any language and the staff will be in charge of > > to translate them... > > > Greetings, > > > Sylvia > > > > > > -----Mensagem original > > > Of: Jose Ovid Salgueiro [ mailto:salgueiro.jo@gmail.com] Shipment command post: > > > sixth-feira, 4 of dezembro of 2009 19:23 > > > For: sylvia@internautabrasil.org; > > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > Assunto: RE: [ lac-discuss-is ] INVITATION for TELECONFE! RENCING > > > respect to the process of selection AT-La! rge Dire ctor -07 of December a > > > the 0800 UTC > > > > > > I have a question. So that the teleconferencing must bein > > > English > > if > > > Latin America is majority as much in ALSs as in I number of users. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jose Ovid Salgueiro A. > > > salgueiro.jo@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > original -----Mensaje > > > Of: lac-discuss-he is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of > > > sylvia@internautabrasil.org Sent: Friday, 04 of December of > > > 2009 > > > 01:02 p.m. > > > For: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] INVITATION for TELECONFERENCING respect to > > > process of selection AT-Large Director -07 of December to 0800 UTC > > > > > > Considered members of LACRALO, > > > ! Monday that comes (7 of December to the 8UTC), will take place uma > > > teleconferencing to discuss the rough draft on like deberia being > > process > > > of selection of the new position that has been created:the one of um director > > > chosen > > by > > > the ALAC that will be part of the Board and therefore will have right to vote. > > > As they will be able to imagine east Director will be uma very important person > > > stops > > > > > ALAC and for the end users of Internet, of there the importance > > > to choose the person certain to hold this position. > > > Before the meeting of Seul and in the same one already treated east subject and > > reason > > > of this teleconferencing of Monday is for combining opinions since command post > > > May > > of > > > 2010 will be due to choose that new director. > > > the teleconferencing will be command post ingles, but they are! all guests a > > > to send questions and ideas to the ! list or its representatives so that > > > of this > > way > > > also can participate. If they want they can participatedirectly > > > using this Link, > > > https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?7_december_2009_community_ca > > > l (CAN WRITE SPANISH command post THAT the STAFF WILL BE IN CHARGE OF > > > TO TRANSLATE IT) > > > > > > For but data enters aqui (command post inlges) > > > http://www.atlarge.icann.org/wg/engagement-en.htm > > > Details of the teleconferencing: > > > > > https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?7_december_2009_community_cal > > l_at_l > > > arge_director_appointment_process > > > > > > Greetings to all and does not doubt command post to write to me if they have some question! > > > Sylvia > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > > Sylvia Herlein Leite > > > LACRALO-ALAC Liaison > > > Lati! n America & Regional Caribbean AT-Large Organization > > > sylvia@internautabrasil.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Mensagem original > > > > Of: alac-announce-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > [ mailto:alac-announce-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] command post nome of > > > Sent > ICANN AT-Large Staff command post: quarta-feira,2 of dezembro of 2009 > > > > 08:40 > > > > For: alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > Cc: Jean-Jacques Subrenat; Mike Silber; jonne.soininen@nsn.com; > > > > George Sadowsky; Tricia Drakes; Raimundo Beca > > > > Assunto: [ ALAC-Announce ] INVITATION: Community Callon AT-Large > > > > Director Appointment Process 07 December 0800 UTC > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > You plows invited to to teleconference on the AT-Large Director > > > > Appointment ! Process on Monday, 7 December 2009 AT 0800 UTC. Please > >! > &g t; find the agenda, participation instructions and background > > > > information on the AT-Large Director appointment process to under: > > > > > > > > https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?7_december_2009_community_c > > > > a > > > > l > > > > l_at_l > > > > arge_director_appointment_process > > > > > > > > ALAC Chair Cheryl Langdon-Orr highlighted the importance of broad > > > > input from all five AT-Large regions to the AT-Large Director > > > > Appointment Process and would like to request regionsto submit > > > > to their input to either > > > > > > > > > > > > * via the regional representatives confirmed ace attending the meeting > > > > * via the Comments section on the meeting page > > > > * via an email to the AT-Large list (cc'ing Cheryl Langdon-Orr and > > > Staff > > > > to make sure to t! heir comments plows recorded > > > > > > > > The members of the Board Structural Improvements Committee and > > > > Tricia Drakes plows also invited to join this discussion. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Nick Ashton-Hart, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Gisella > > > > Gruber-White ICANN AT-Large Staff > > > > > > > > email: staff AT atlarge.icann.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > ALAC-Announce mailing list > > > > ALAC-Announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > > > > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-announce_atlarge-lists. > > > > icann.org > > > > > > > > AT-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.or! g > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______!

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