[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?RES=Á_elecci=F3n_directa_individ = =?iso-8859-1?q?ual_o_no_-_LACRALO_-_punto_sustantivo_para_la_telec = =?iso-8859-1?q?onferencia = From: sylvia@internautabrasil.org Dear Alexander, I agree with you and inclusively already habiamos spoken on this command post Seul. All we know the dificil that is to obtain the participation of all when we organized the ALAC Summit de Mexico. Reason why I consider that the best thing would be not to consider the2 last ones options to conciderar them unproductive and of dificil accomplishment. And me gustaria to add desnecesarias, since each Thin one already has chosen his representatives and their authorities for this type of desiciones among others things. Greetings, Sylvia _________________________________________________________ Sylvia Herlein Leite LACRALO-ALAC Liaison Latin America & Regional Caribbean AT-Large Organization sylvia@internautabrasil.org -----Mensagem original Of: Alexander Pisanty [ mailto:apisan@servidor.unam.mx ] Shipment command post: Sunday, 6 of dezembro of 2009 17:58 It stops: sylvia@prontocl Cc: ' alberto sotó; ' Jose Ovid Salgueiró; lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org Assunto: individual direct selection or - LACRALO - point noundoes not stop the teleconferencing Hello, in forecast in which, by trip, it cannot participate in the session of teleconferencing of this Monday, permítanme to paortar an opinion that I request to them to transmit. If they agree in addition I invite to them to support it. Reviewing the document in https://st.icann.org/working-groups/index.cgi?At-Large%20Draft%20Procedure%2 0for%20Appointment%20of%20a%20Director that one talks about the procedures to choose a member of the Council Director of ICANN from the AT-Large, I notice in line 53 of the table, Option 5, that sets out the option of which all individual that expresses his interest to do it can emit a vote. This has been tried before and unequivocally demonstrated to lead to dehorn. A selection cannot be better than its registry of voters. It does not exist registry of users of Internet, nor of individuals interested in AT-Large, nor no other that a registry of the population constitutes preexisting to the selections. Consequently, the selection that we would have ahead would consist notof to divide the electorate between the different options by which it can to vote, but in attracting voters, with any argument, to add itself to register and to vote. This is analogous to loq ue has in the history of many Latin American paíeses: caciques/candidatos raising hills by farmers to take them to the squares with the instruction and certainty that they will vote by "the correct" candidate. This procedure already presntó in the AT-Large, the selections of theyear 2000. It was called on to me to very follow them close by likepart of the Committee of Nominations (today equivalent to the one of Selection of Candidates) and like member of the Board of ICANN. The faults derived from the criterion described in the previous paragraph votes by nationality, captures corporative, votes were multiple - of clubs - and although they did not take to the cancellation of the selection and produced to less three valuable directors competentesy, showed all vulnerabilities of this process. Thus the direct selection in this case, that to many it can pareccer to us in principle and by our traditions most democratic, becomes perversely the most undemocratic option. I reiterate then my request: 1. to who is in favor present of the region I request to transmit the previous criterion; 2. to those who are convinced of these arguments I request to them to express his support so that this one also is transmitted in the teleconferencing. Warm greeting. Alexander Pisanty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr Alexander Pisanty UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 * They see ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org * It participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . On Sun, 6 DEC 2009, sylvia@prontocl wrote:

Date: Sun, 6 DEC 2009 11:42:02 -0200 > From: "sylvia@prontocl" <sylvia@prontocl.com.br> > To: ' alberto sotó <asoto@ibero-americano.org>, > "[ iso-8859-1 ] ' Jose Ovid Salgueiró" <salgueiro.jo@gmail.com> > Cc: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ iso-8859-1 ] HEAD OF CATTLE: INVITATION stops TELECONFERENCING > respect to the process of selection AT-Large Director -07 ofDecember a 0800 UTC > > Wanted Alberto and Jose, > According to I understand this Teleconferencing is for all the thin ones. He is not um > internal subject of the LACRALO, but that is for all the thin ones. Between > all we must decide which is the best method to choose to > future director who will represent the ALAC and who will be part of the Board. > This director will act and represent all the thin ones and will leave > anyone of them or until is not necessary that it is part of uma of > the thin ones if she is that between all we decided that thebest person stops > to represent to us is not part of a thin one then. They aremany > possibilities... And this teleconferencing is for giving more form him to > that comes discussing since we knew on this new approved position by the Board, the 27 of August 2009. > Tenemos to decide on metodolgia, quíenes votarian, etc, etc. > Fíjense that members of other thin ones already were made similar questions > and wiki placed their positions command post, > http://www.atlarge.icann.org/wg/engagement-en.htm (althoughis command post ingles). > > Aqui estan the opinions on the selection process and votingthat > made the NARALO and it placed it to consideration of all, > http://www.atlarge.icann.org/wg/engagement-en.htm > > is outro Here wiki ocn more doubts, and the staff committeditself to look for > the answers or to direct the doubt to that corresponds. Remember that > in spite of being command post ingles, you can write Spanish command post; > https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?questions_about_legal_or_othe > r_issu > is > > and is the requirements necessary here to postulate itself like candidate, > according to the ICANN laws, > https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?draft_candidate_requirements > > Any thing, does not doubt command post to ask to me! I willparticipate in > teleconferencing tomorrow morning... > Greetings, > Sylvia > _________________________________________________________ > Sylvia Herlein Leite > LACRALO-ALAC Liaison > Latin America & Regional Caribbean AT-Large O! rganization > sylvia@internautabrasil.org > > > > > > > -----Mensagem original > Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] command post nome of > alberto Sent grove command post: Saturday, 5 of dezembro of2009 18:57 > For: ' Jose Ovid Salgueiró; sylvia@internautabrasil.org > Cc: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > Assunto: Re: [ lac-discuss-es]INVITACION for TELECONFERENCING respect > of the process of selection AT-Large Director -07 of December to 0800 > UTC > > Considered, I have the same restlessness that Jose Ovid Salgueiro, > I believe that they ameritan an aclamation, including a rectification. > warm Greetings > > Dr Alberto Grove > Director IIISI > > original -----Mensaje > Of: lac-discuss-he is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of > Jose Ovid Sent Salgueiro: Saturday, 05 of December of 2009 05:38 p.m. > For: sylvia@internautabrasil.org > CC: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-es]INVITACION for TELECONFERENCING respect > of the process of selection AT-Large Director -07 of December to 0800 > UTC > > Entiendo qie is a world-wide conference but qusiera they clarified two to me > things if it is possible: > > 1. So that a subject which I understand internal of Lacralohas > to discuss itself at this level 2. Even being a subject of the interest of ours > Thin is in ingles and to one hour so inconvenient for the region > > Thanks, > > > JOS > > the 05/12/09, sylvia@internautabrasil.org <sylvia@internautabrasil.org> > wrote: > > Loved Jose: > > I do not know if I have the correct answer for that question, but have > understood > > that the teleconferencing will be world-wide, for all theregions... without > > no type of interpretation... It is why they are possible to be done > > questions command post wiki command post! any language andthe staff will be in charge of > to translate them... > > Greetings, > > Sylvia > > > > -----Mensagem original > > Of: Jose Ovid Salgueiro [ mailto:salgueiro.jo@gmail.com ]Shipment command post: > > sixth-feira, 4 of dezembro of 2009 19:23 > > For: sylvia@internautabrasil.org; > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Assunto: RE: [ lac-discuss-is ] INVITATION for TELECONFERENCING > > respect to the process of selection AT-Large Director -07of December a > > the 0800 UTC > > > > I have a question. So that the teleconferencing must be in > > English > if > > Latin America is majority as much in ALSs as in I number of users. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jose Ovid Salgueiro A. > > salgueiro.jo@gmail.com > > > > > > > > original -----Mensaje > > Of: lac-discuss-he is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of > ! > sylvia@internautabrasil.org Sent: Friday, 04 of December ! of > > ; 2009 > > 01:02 p.m. > > For: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] INVITATION for TELECONFERENCING respect to > > process of selection AT-Large Director -07 of December to0800 UTC > > > > Considered members of LACRALO, > > Monday that comes (7 of December to the 8UTC), will take place uma > > teleconferencing to discuss the rough draft on like deberia being > process > > of selection of the new position that has been created: the one of um director > > chosen > by > > the ALAC that will be part of the Board and therefore will have right to vote. > > As they will be able to imagine east Director will be uma very important person > > stops > > > ALAC and for the end users of Internet, of there the importance > > to choose the person certain to hold this position. > > Before the meeting of Seul and in the same one already treated east subject and > reason > > of this teleconferencing of M! onday is for combining opinions since command post > > May > of > > 2010 will be due to choose that new director. > > the teleconferencing will be command post ingles, but they are allguests a > > to send questions and ideas to the list or its representatives so that > > of this > way > > also can participate. If they want they can participate directly > > using this Link, > > https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?7_december_2009_community_ca > > l (CAN WRITE SPANISH command post THAT the STAFF WILL BE IN CHARGE OF > > TO TRANSLATE IT) > > > > For but data enters aqui (command post inlges) > > http://www.atlarge.icann.org/wg/engagement-en.htm > > Details of the teleconferencing: > > > https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?7_december_2009_community_cal > l_at_l > > arge_director_appointment_process > > > > Greetings to all and does not doubt command post to writeto me if they have some question! > > Sylvia! > > > _______________________________________________!

__ > > Sylvia Herlein Leite > > LACRALO-ALAC Liaison > > Latin America & Regional Caribbean AT-Large Organization > > sylvia@internautabrasil.org > > > > > > > > > > > -----Mensagem original > > > Of: alac-announce-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > [ mailto:alac-announce-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] command post nome of > > Sent > ICANN AT-Large Staff command post: quarta-feira, 2of dezembro of 2009 > > > 08:40 > > > For: alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > Cc: Jean-Jacques Subrenat; Mike Silber; jonne.soininen@nsn.com; > > > George Sadowsky; Tricia Drakes; Raimundo Beca > > > Assunto: [ ALAC-Announce ] INVITATION: Community Call on AT-Large > > > Director Appointment Process 07 December 0800 UTC > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > You plows invited to to teleconference on the AT-Large Director > > > Appointment Process on Monday, 7 December ! 2009 AT 0800 UTC. Please > > > find the agenda, participation instructions and background > > > information on the AT-Large Director appointment process to under: > > > > > > https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?7_december_2009_community_c > > > a > > > l > > > l_at_l > > > arge_director_appointment_process > > > > > > ALAC Chair Cheryl Langdon-Orr highlighted the importance of broad > > > input from all five AT-Large regions to the AT-Large Director > > > Appointment Process and would like to request regions to submit > > > to their input to either > > > > > > > > > * via the regional representatives confirmed ace attending the meeting > > > * via the Comments section on the meeting page > > > * via an email to the AT-Large list (cc'ing Cheryl Langdon-Orr and > > Staff > > > to make sure to their comments plows recorded > > > > > > The m! embers of the Board Structural Improvements Committee and > &! gt; > Tricia Drakes plows also invited to join this discussion. > > > > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > > > > Nick Ashton-Hart, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Gisella > > > Gruber-White ICANN AT-Large Staff > > > > > > email: staff AT atlarge.icann.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > ALAC-Announce mailing list > > > ALAC-Announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-announce_atlarge-lists. > > > icann.org > > > > > > AT-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge > - lists > > icann.org > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Jose Ovid Salgueiro A. > salgueiro.jo@gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge > - lists > icann.org > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discus! s-es_atlarge > - lists > icann.org > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge > - lists.icann.org > > http://www.lacralo.org > _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/fd55f6b307.html --]]