LAC Strategy for Outreach and Engagement
Dear All Please see attached the LACRALO Outreach and Engagement Plan which was discussed at the last LACRALO Monthly Call. Please provide your comments by Wednesday 7 June, 2023 so that it can be approved for FY 24. If not comments are received, the plan would be considered as final and forwarded to the ICANN org staff, I look forward to your feedback as soon as possible. Claire C. Craig LACRALO Secretariat
Dear Claire and region, I have read the strategy document, in addition to listening to the presentation at the monthly call, I agree that it is an ambitious plan that, if fulfilled, will have a very active region during this fiscal year. As the region's liaison with the Subcommittee of Outreach and Engagement, since unfortunately I was not called to prepare it, I would like to have the final version, once it is approved by the region, since, as always, I have to present it to the subcommittee or other instances of the ALAC. Best regards, Lilian Ivette De Luque Bruges ________________________________ De: lac-discuss-en <lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> en nombre de Claire Craig <claireccraig@gmail.com> Enviado: viernes, 2 de junio de 2023 12:31 p. m. Para: LAC-Discuss-en <lac-discuss-en@icann.org>; Rodrigo de la Parra <rodrigo.delaparra@icann.org>; Rodrigo Saucedo Linares <rodrigo.saucedo@icann.org> Asunto: [lac-discuss-en] LAC Strategy for Outreach and Engagement Dear All Please see attached the LACRALO Outreach and Engagement Plan which was discussed at the last LACRALO Monthly Call. Please provide your comments by Wednesday 7 June, 2023 so that it can be approved for FY 24. If not comments are received, the plan would be considered as final and forwarded to the ICANN org staff, I look forward to your feedback as soon as possible. Claire C. Craig LACRALO Secretariat
Dear Claire, Thank you for the document. As Lilian said, the plan is very ambitious, so I guess we should start working on it as soon as it's finally approved. I also guess the plan is aligned with the global O&E At Large strategy? Best regards, Laura Margolis El vie, 2 jun 2023 a las 14:33, Claire Craig (<claireccraig@gmail.com>) escribió:
Dear All Please see attached the LACRALO Outreach and Engagement Plan which was discussed at the last LACRALO Monthly Call.
Please provide your comments by Wednesday 7 June, 2023 so that it can be approved for FY 24. If not comments are received, the plan would be considered as final and forwarded to the ICANN org staff,
I look forward to your feedback as soon as possible.
Claire C. Craig LACRALO Secretariat
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Hi, some observations: 1. The plan as presented is not framed within either LACRALO's Strategic Plan for the same period nor (at least not explicitly) to any other ICANN plans, whether At Large or ICANN-org. This should be remedied ASAP for a second round of comments. 2. There are no quantitative, measurable goals (remember the acronym SMART); this should be remedied by the drafting party. 3. The plan does not clearly link actions to the "Policy First" Agenda agreed in the General Assembly of 2023 as well as in the process of 2014-2016. Every action by LACRALO has to be explained, measured, and assessed according to its clear causal linkage to policy production in formal PDPs. Which leads to the next: 4. There is no clear Theory of Change between the proposed actions and their effects for the above mentioned. 5. One goal that must be included is a quantitative goal of bringing in new organizations as ALSs. There is a perverse incentive for each country's presently existing ALS to avoid recruiting new organizations as ALS, as this would divide the weight of their votes by half. It will be argued that this is particularly difficult to achieve in countries with small populations, to the disadvantage of those with a rich, thriving technical and social community around the Internet; still the goal must be to add at least one ALS per country in the following 12 months. 6. There is no measure of transparency and accountability for the participants, as to actually taking up the activity agreed, assessing its quality, relevance, and impact with the intended audience, and feedback from said audience. This reinforces the impression that LACRALO refuses any measure of accountability. So be it as long as it is thought that LACRALO is an isolated entity. However, this reflects badly on the perception of the At-Large in general, and of ICANN in a broader sense, and even more impactfully, on the multistakeholder processes in general. In the year that the GDC and related UN SG and AG processes are being launced LACRALO would be doing a great disservice to the Internet governance community by not being scrupulously disciplined in this respect. So, the plan must include such measures as well in the next draft to be circulated with time enough for comments before the June 7 deadline. Alejandro Pisanty ________________________________ De: lac-discuss-en <lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> en nombre de Claire Craig <claireccraig@gmail.com> Enviado: viernes, 2 de junio de 2023 11:31 a. m. Para: LAC-Discuss-en; Rodrigo de la Parra; Rodrigo Saucedo Linares Asunto: [lac-discuss-en] LAC Strategy for Outreach and Engagement Dear All Please see attached the LACRALO Outreach and Engagement Plan which was discussed at the last LACRALO Monthly Call. Please provide your comments by Wednesday 7 June, 2023 so that it can be approved for FY 24. If not comments are received, the plan would be considered as final and forwarded to the ICANN org staff, I look forward to your feedback as soon as possible. Claire C. Craig LACRALO Secretariat
Dear Dr. Pisanty Thanks for those observations. Your feedback is duly noted and well articulated. As such, please fill in the gaps in the document as you identified or send me your contribution to the important LACRALO Strategy with the appropriate language based on your feedback as soon as possible, so that the document can be updated and recirculated. Thanks for taking the time to review, and I look forward to receiving your valuable and timely input. CCC
On 4 Jun 2023, at 11:17 PM, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <apisan@unam.mx> wrote:
Hi,
some observations:
The plan as presented is not framed within either LACRALO's Strategic Plan for the same period nor (at least not explicitly) to any other ICANN plans, whether At Large or ICANN-org. This should be remedied ASAP for a second round of comments. There are no quantitative, measurable goals (remember the acronym SMART); this should be remedied by the drafting party. The plan does not clearly link actions to the "Policy First" Agenda agreed in the General Assembly of 2023 as well as in the process of 2014-2016. Every action by LACRALO has to be explained, measured, and assessed according to its clear causal linkage to policy production in formal PDPs. Which leads to the next: There is no clear Theory of Change between the proposed actions and their effects for the above mentioned. One goal that must be included is a quantitative goal of bringing in new organizations as ALSs. There is a perverse incentive for each country's presently existing ALS to avoid recruiting new organizations as ALS, as this would divide the weight of their votes by half. It will be argued that this is particularly difficult to achieve in countries with small populations, to the disadvantage of those with a rich, thriving technical and social community around the Internet; still the goal must be to add at least one ALS per country in the following 12 months. There is no measure of transparency and accountability for the participants, as to actually taking up the activity agreed, assessing its quality, relevance, and impact with the intended audience, and feedback from said audience. This reinforces the impression that LACRALO refuses any measure of accountability. So be it as long as it is thought that LACRALO is an isolated entity. However, this reflects badly on the perception of the At-Large in general, and of ICANN in a broader sense, and even more impactfully, on the multistakeholder processes in general. In the year that the GDC and related UN SG and AG processes are being launced LACRALO would be doing a great disservice to the Internet governance community by not being scrupulously disciplined in this respect. So, the plan must include such measures as well in the next draft to be circulated with time enough for comments before the June 7 deadline.
Alejandro Pisanty
De: lac-discuss-en <lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> en nombre de Claire Craig <claireccraig@gmail.com> Enviado: viernes, 2 de junio de 2023 11:31 a. m. Para: LAC-Discuss-en; Rodrigo de la Parra; Rodrigo Saucedo Linares Asunto: [lac-discuss-en] LAC Strategy for Outreach and Engagement
Dear All Please see attached the LACRALO Outreach and Engagement Plan which was discussed at the last LACRALO Monthly Call.
Please provide your comments by Wednesday 7 June, 2023 so that it can be approved for FY 24. If not comments are received, the plan would be considered as final and forwarded to the ICANN org staff,
I look forward to your feedback as soon as possible.
Claire C. Craig LACRALO Secretariat
Claire, no, no, no, this should be pretty clear. You sent out a draft for comments, got comments. Now it is incumbent on the drafting team to absorb all comments and send a new draft, with at least 24 hours advance to the deadline of June 7. This is a basic process issue which should merit no further discussion. If you as Secretary are not involved the only step left is to pass it on to those who were, and follow up requiring a new version on time and circulating it. It is not only my observations that need to be absorbed. The statement that the plan may be overly ambitious should also generate a cycle of review, so that the drafters can wirte what the goals are, what happens if not all are met, so also if not all resources (people, money, availability of timeslots for meetings, admission into meetings, etc.) come together, the community knows what the fallback plan is. This is basic planning and again I don't see why it would merit further discussion. Alejandro Pisanty ________________________________ De: Claire C. Craig <claireccraig@gmail.com> Enviado: lunes, 5 de junio de 2023 05:46 a. m. Para: Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch CC: LAC-Discuss-en; Rodrigo de la Parra; Rodrigo Saucedo Linares Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] LAC Strategy for Outreach and Engagement Dear Dr. Pisanty Thanks for those observations. Your feedback is duly noted and well articulated. As such, please fill in the gaps in the document as you identified or send me your contribution to the important LACRALO Strategy with the appropriate language based on your feedback as soon as possible, so that the document can be updated and recirculated. Thanks for taking the time to review, and I look forward to receiving your valuable and timely input. CCC On 4 Jun 2023, at 11:17 PM, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <apisan@unam.mx> wrote: Hi, some observations: 1. The plan as presented is not framed within either LACRALO's Strategic Plan for the same period nor (at least not explicitly) to any other ICANN plans, whether At Large or ICANN-org. This should be remedied ASAP for a second round of comments. 2. There are no quantitative, measurable goals (remember the acronym SMART); this should be remedied by the drafting party. 3. The plan does not clearly link actions to the "Policy First" Agenda agreed in the General Assembly of 2023 as well as in the process of 2014-2016. Every action by LACRALO has to be explained, measured, and assessed according to its clear causal linkage to policy production in formal PDPs. Which leads to the next: 4. There is no clear Theory of Change between the proposed actions and their effects for the above mentioned. 5. One goal that must be included is a quantitative goal of bringing in new organizations as ALSs. There is a perverse incentive for each country's presently existing ALS to avoid recruiting new organizations as ALS, as this would divide the weight of their votes by half. It will be argued that this is particularly difficult to achieve in countries with small populations, to the disadvantage of those with a rich, thriving technical and social community around the Internet; still the goal must be to add at least one ALS per country in the following 12 months. 6. There is no measure of transparency and accountability for the participants, as to actually taking up the activity agreed, assessing its quality, relevance, and impact with the intended audience, and feedback from said audience. This reinforces the impression that LACRALO refuses any measure of accountability. So be it as long as it is thought that LACRALO is an isolated entity. However, this reflects badly on the perception of the At-Large in general, and of ICANN in a broader sense, and even more impactfully, on the multistakeholder processes in general. In the year that the GDC and related UN SG and AG processes are being launced LACRALO would be doing a great disservice to the Internet governance community by not being scrupulously disciplined in this respect. So, the plan must include such measures as well in the next draft to be circulated with time enough for comments before the June 7 deadline. Alejandro Pisanty ________________________________ De: lac-discuss-en <lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> en nombre de Claire Craig <claireccraig@gmail.com> Enviado: viernes, 2 de junio de 2023 11:31 a. m. Para: LAC-Discuss-en; Rodrigo de la Parra; Rodrigo Saucedo Linares Asunto: [lac-discuss-en] LAC Strategy for Outreach and Engagement Dear All Please see attached the LACRALO Outreach and Engagement Plan which was discussed at the last LACRALO Monthly Call. Please provide your comments by Wednesday 7 June, 2023 so that it can be approved for FY 24. If not comments are received, the plan would be considered as final and forwarded to the ICANN org staff, I look forward to your feedback as soon as possible. Claire C. Craig LACRALO Secretariat
Hello Dr. Pisanty Thanks for your comments. I await feedback as you have suggested. Any feedback received will be incorporated and circulated, before the document is sent forward. Regards On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 at 11:07, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <apisan@unam.mx> wrote:
Claire,
no, no, no, this should be pretty clear. You sent out a draft for comments, got comments. Now it is incumbent on the drafting team to absorb all comments and send a new draft, with at least 24 hours advance to the deadline of June 7. This is a basic process issue which should merit no further discussion. If you as Secretary are not involved the only step left is to pass it on to those who were, and follow up requiring a new version on time and circulating it.
It is not only my observations that need to be absorbed. The statement that the plan may be overly ambitious should also generate a cycle of review, so that the drafters can wirte what the goals are, what happens if not all are met, so also if not all resources (people, money, availability of timeslots for meetings, admission into meetings, etc.) come together, the community knows what the fallback plan is. This is basic planning and again I don't see why it would merit further discussion.
Alejandro Pisanty
------------------------------ *De:* Claire C. Craig <claireccraig@gmail.com> *Enviado:* lunes, 5 de junio de 2023 05:46 a. m. *Para:* Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch *CC:* LAC-Discuss-en; Rodrigo de la Parra; Rodrigo Saucedo Linares *Asunto:* Re: [lac-discuss-en] LAC Strategy for Outreach and Engagement
Dear Dr. Pisanty Thanks for those observations. Your feedback is duly noted and well articulated.
As such, please fill in the gaps in the document as you identified or send me your contribution to the important LACRALO Strategy with the appropriate language based on your feedback as soon as possible, so that the document can be updated and recirculated.
Thanks for taking the time to review, and I look forward to receiving your valuable and timely input.
CCC
On 4 Jun 2023, at 11:17 PM, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <apisan@unam.mx> wrote:
Hi,
some observations:
1. The plan as presented is not framed within either LACRALO's Strategic Plan for the same period nor (at least not explicitly) to any other ICANN plans, whether At Large or ICANN-org. This should be remedied ASAP for a second round of comments. 2. There are no quantitative, measurable goals (remember the acronym SMART); this should be remedied by the drafting party. 3. The plan does not clearly link actions to the "Policy First" Agenda agreed in the General Assembly of 2023 as well as in the process of 2014-2016. Every action by LACRALO has to be explained, measured, and assessed according to its clear causal linkage to policy production in formal PDPs. Which leads to the next: 4. There is no clear Theory of Change between the proposed actions and their effects for the above mentioned. 5. One goal that must be included is a quantitative goal of bringing in new organizations as ALSs. There is a perverse incentive for each country's presently existing ALS to avoid recruiting new organizations as ALS, as this would divide the weight of their votes by half. It will be argued that this is particularly difficult to achieve in countries with small populations, to the disadvantage of those with a rich, thriving technical and social community around the Internet; still the goal must be to add at least one ALS per country in the following 12 months. 6. There is no measure of transparency and accountability for the participants, as to actually taking up the activity agreed, assessing its quality, relevance, and impact with the intended audience, and feedback from said audience. This reinforces the impression that LACRALO refuses any measure of accountability. So be it as long as it is thought that LACRALO is an isolated entity. However, this reflects badly on the perception of the At-Large in general, and of ICANN in a broader sense, and even more impactfully, on the multistakeholder processes in general. In the year that the GDC and related UN SG and AG processes are being launced LACRALO would be doing a great disservice to the Internet governance community by not being scrupulously disciplined in this respect. So, the plan must include such measures as well in the next draft to be circulated with time enough for comments before the June 7 deadline.
Alejandro Pisanty
------------------------------ *De:* lac-discuss-en <lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> en nombre de Claire Craig <claireccraig@gmail.com> *Enviado:* viernes, 2 de junio de 2023 11:31 a. m. *Para:* LAC-Discuss-en; Rodrigo de la Parra; Rodrigo Saucedo Linares *Asunto:* [lac-discuss-en] LAC Strategy for Outreach and Engagement
Dear All Please see attached the LACRALO Outreach and Engagement Plan which was discussed at the last LACRALO Monthly Call.
Please provide your comments by Wednesday 7 June, 2023 so that it can be approved for FY 24. If not comments are received, the plan would be considered as final and forwarded to the ICANN org staff,
I look forward to your feedback as soon as possible.
Claire C. Craig LACRALO Secretariat
Dear Claire, According to the ICANN Stakeholder Tool (https://bitly.com/ICANNST), there are 12 countries in the LAC region that do not have At-Large Structures. These are : Antigua and Barbuda (.ag) Bahamas (.bs) Belize (.bz) Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and Saba (.bq) The Commonwealth of Dominica (.dm) Grenada (.gd) Guatemala (.gt) Saint Barthélemy (.bl) Saint Kitts and Nevis (.kn) Saint Martin (French part) (.mf) Sint Maarten (Dutch part) (.sx) Republic of Suriname (.sr) Outreach should therefore be targeted to get suitable organisations in these 12 countries to join At-Large. Initiatives such as Community Regional Outreach Program (CROP) could be used for such outreach. However, the proposed CROP strategy in the draft document says "1. Whenever a new outreach opportunity becomes available, the LACRALO leadership will send an email to the community, informing them about the opportunity, and inviting members to apply to the CROP. 2. All LACRALO members are eligible to apply for the CROP program. 3. To apply for a CROP opportunity, members should follow the application process: https://community.icann.org/display/soacabout/Community+Regional+Outreach+Pr... 4, If there are more than two LACRALO members applying for the same CROP opportunity, the LACRALO leadership will invite the community to vote on the selection of the candidate who will be granted the CROP slot" This proposed strategy can unnecessarily create delays in filing a successful CROP application to an outreach event given the need to submit and get approved a CROP application 6-8 weeks before the outreach event. Given that LACRALO leadership will advertise a CROP opportunity, the LACRALO leadership should first reach out to ALS members that are in the subregion of the CROP outreach event to attend. Only if persons from the subregion are not able to attend, then it goes out to the wider LACRALO. Kind Regards, Dev Anand Teelucksingh Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society at https://ttcs.tt On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 1:33 PM Claire Craig <claireccraig@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All Please see attached the LACRALO Outreach and Engagement Plan which was discussed at the last LACRALO Monthly Call.
Please provide your comments by Wednesday 7 June, 2023 so that it can be approved for FY 24. If not comments are received, the plan would be considered as final and forwarded to the ICANN org staff,
I look forward to your feedback as soon as possible.
Claire C. Craig LACRALO Secretariat
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Dear Dev Thanks for your very practical and proactive feedback. These will be reviewed and incorporated in the document if possible and recirculated. CCC On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 at 11:53, Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Claire,
According to the ICANN Stakeholder Tool (https://bitly.com/ICANNST), there are 12 countries in the LAC region that do not have At-Large Structures. These are :
Antigua and Barbuda (.ag) Bahamas (.bs) Belize (.bz) Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and Saba (.bq) The Commonwealth of Dominica (.dm) Grenada (.gd) Guatemala (.gt) Saint Barthélemy (.bl) Saint Kitts and Nevis (.kn) Saint Martin (French part) (.mf) Sint Maarten (Dutch part) (.sx) Republic of Suriname (.sr)
Outreach should therefore be targeted to get suitable organisations in these 12 countries to join At-Large.
Initiatives such as Community Regional Outreach Program (CROP) could be used for such outreach.
However, the proposed CROP strategy in the draft document says "1. Whenever a new outreach opportunity becomes available, the LACRALO leadership will send an email to the community, informing them about the opportunity, and inviting members to apply to the CROP. 2. All LACRALO members are eligible to apply for the CROP program. 3. To apply for a CROP opportunity, members should follow the application process: https://community.icann.org/display/soacabout/Community+Regional+Outreach+Pr... 4, If there are more than two LACRALO members applying for the same CROP opportunity, the LACRALO leadership will invite the community to vote on the selection of the candidate who will be granted the CROP slot"
This proposed strategy can unnecessarily create delays in filing a successful CROP application to an outreach event given the need to submit and get approved a CROP application 6-8 weeks before the outreach event.
Given that LACRALO leadership will advertise a CROP opportunity, the LACRALO leadership should first reach out to ALS members that are in the subregion of the CROP outreach event to attend. Only if persons from the subregion are not able to attend, then it goes out to the wider LACRALO.
Kind Regards,
Dev Anand Teelucksingh Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society at https://ttcs.tt
On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 1:33 PM Claire Craig <claireccraig@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All Please see attached the LACRALO Outreach and Engagement Plan which was discussed at the last LACRALO Monthly Call.
Please provide your comments by Wednesday 7 June, 2023 so that it can be approved for FY 24. If not comments are received, the plan would be considered as final and forwarded to the ICANN org staff,
I look forward to your feedback as soon as possible.
Claire C. Craig LACRALO Secretariat
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Dear Dev, Excellent observations and suggestions. Of course our region should reach out to all the countries where there is still no presence, as a priority. I guess that will be part of the O&E strategy. I agree with your view regarding CROP fundings. Also I think we should also work to discredit all ALS which are not more engaged with ICANN for different reasons, so we can have an updated and real list of LACRALO's ALS. I understand Lilian De Luque is our regional's liaison with O&E, but do we have a group working on this? If not, how is our region going to take action on the plan? Best, Laura Margolis El lun, 5 jun 2023 a las 12:53, Dev Anand Teelucksingh (<devtee@gmail.com>) escribió:
Dear Claire,
According to the ICANN Stakeholder Tool (https://bitly.com/ICANNST), there are 12 countries in the LAC region that do not have At-Large Structures. These are :
Antigua and Barbuda (.ag) Bahamas (.bs) Belize (.bz) Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and Saba (.bq) The Commonwealth of Dominica (.dm) Grenada (.gd) Guatemala (.gt) Saint Barthélemy (.bl) Saint Kitts and Nevis (.kn) Saint Martin (French part) (.mf) Sint Maarten (Dutch part) (.sx) Republic of Suriname (.sr)
Outreach should therefore be targeted to get suitable organisations in these 12 countries to join At-Large.
Initiatives such as Community Regional Outreach Program (CROP) could be used for such outreach.
However, the proposed CROP strategy in the draft document says "1. Whenever a new outreach opportunity becomes available, the LACRALO leadership will send an email to the community, informing them about the opportunity, and inviting members to apply to the CROP. 2. All LACRALO members are eligible to apply for the CROP program. 3. To apply for a CROP opportunity, members should follow the application process: https://community.icann.org/display/soacabout/Community+Regional+Outreach+Pr... 4, If there are more than two LACRALO members applying for the same CROP opportunity, the LACRALO leadership will invite the community to vote on the selection of the candidate who will be granted the CROP slot"
This proposed strategy can unnecessarily create delays in filing a successful CROP application to an outreach event given the need to submit and get approved a CROP application 6-8 weeks before the outreach event.
Given that LACRALO leadership will advertise a CROP opportunity, the LACRALO leadership should first reach out to ALS members that are in the subregion of the CROP outreach event to attend. Only if persons from the subregion are not able to attend, then it goes out to the wider LACRALO.
Kind Regards,
Dev Anand Teelucksingh Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society at https://ttcs.tt
On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 1:33 PM Claire Craig <claireccraig@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All Please see attached the LACRALO Outreach and Engagement Plan which was discussed at the last LACRALO Monthly Call.
Please provide your comments by Wednesday 7 June, 2023 so that it can be approved for FY 24. If not comments are received, the plan would be considered as final and forwarded to the ICANN org staff,
I look forward to your feedback as soon as possible.
Claire C. Craig LACRALO Secretariat
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Laura, thanks for the statement. Several of us have insistently proposed that all ALS's must be reaccredited from scratch. It is the only way forward. The criteria for this have already been laid on the table. It will spare us much shame in the future. Regarding CROP funding there is one more request we have already made and has not been honored. Since LACRALO leadership will filter the proposals, it must lay out a proposal for criteria, process, and timelines for such approval, and get it voted. Regarding Dev's proposal to focus on extending ALS membership to countries that do not presently have an ALS, yes, but it continues to reinforce the trend to avoid dividing the unchallenged monopoly each present ALS enjoys in small countries when it comes to weighted voting. Alejandro Pisanty ________________________________ De: lac-discuss-en <lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> en nombre de Laura Margolis <margolisl@gmail.com> Enviado: lunes, 5 de junio de 2023 11:43 a. m. Para: Dev Anand Teelucksingh CC: LAC-Discuss-en Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] LAC Strategy for Outreach and Engagement Dear Dev, Excellent observations and suggestions. Of course our region should reach out to all the countries where there is still no presence, as a priority. I guess that will be part of the O&E strategy. I agree with your view regarding CROP fundings. Also I think we should also work to discredit all ALS which are not more engaged with ICANN for different reasons, so we can have an updated and real list of LACRALO's ALS. I understand Lilian De Luque is our regional's liaison with O&E, but do we have a group working on this? If not, how is our region going to take action on the plan? Best, Laura Margolis El lun, 5 jun 2023 a las 12:53, Dev Anand Teelucksingh (<devtee@gmail.com<mailto:devtee@gmail.com>>) escribió: Dear Claire, According to the ICANN Stakeholder Tool (https://bitly.com/ICANNST), there are 12 countries in the LAC region that do not have At-Large Structures. These are : Antigua and Barbuda (.ag) Bahamas (.bs) Belize (.bz) Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and Saba (.bq) The Commonwealth of Dominica (.dm) Grenada (.gd) Guatemala (.gt) Saint Barthélemy (.bl) Saint Kitts and Nevis (.kn) Saint Martin (French part) (.mf) Sint Maarten (Dutch part) (.sx) Republic of Suriname (.sr) Outreach should therefore be targeted to get suitable organisations in these 12 countries to join At-Large. Initiatives such as Community Regional Outreach Program (CROP) could be used for such outreach. However, the proposed CROP strategy in the draft document says "1. Whenever a new outreach opportunity becomes available, the LACRALO leadership will send an email to the community, informing them about the opportunity, and inviting members to apply to the CROP. 2. All LACRALO members are eligible to apply for the CROP program. 3. To apply for a CROP opportunity, members should follow the application process: https://community.icann.org/display/soacabout/Community+Regional+Outreach+Pr... 4, If there are more than two LACRALO members applying for the same CROP opportunity, the LACRALO leadership will invite the community to vote on the selection of the candidate who will be granted the CROP slot" This proposed strategy can unnecessarily create delays in filing a successful CROP application to an outreach event given the need to submit and get approved a CROP application 6-8 weeks before the outreach event. Given that LACRALO leadership will advertise a CROP opportunity, the LACRALO leadership should first reach out to ALS members that are in the subregion of the CROP outreach event to attend. Only if persons from the subregion are not able to attend, then it goes out to the wider LACRALO. Kind Regards, Dev Anand Teelucksingh Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society at https://ttcs.tt On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 1:33 PM Claire Craig <claireccraig@gmail.com<mailto:claireccraig@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear All Please see attached the LACRALO Outreach and Engagement Plan which was discussed at the last LACRALO Monthly Call. Please provide your comments by Wednesday 7 June, 2023 so that it can be approved for FY 24. If not comments are received, the plan would be considered as final and forwarded to the ICANN org staff, I look forward to your feedback as soon as possible. Claire C. 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Thanks for all the comments received so far. The attached version 2 of the document includes *some *of the suggested changes.Unfortunately no input has been received from the drafting team to absorb all of the comments into this new draft. Therefore, while there may be gaps in this plan, it can be viewed as a work in progress and reviewed and updated in due course. This is to mitigate against losing out on the CROP funding for the 2nd half of 2023 as happened for the first half. Your review and feedback would be appreciated by Wednesday 6, June at 23:00 UTC. Regards, Claire C. Craig LACRALO Secretariat On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 at 15:23, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <apisan@unam.mx> wrote:
Laura,
thanks for the statement. Several of us have insistently proposed that all ALS's must be reaccredited from scratch. It is the only way forward. The criteria for this have already been laid on the table. It will spare us much shame in the future.
Regarding CROP funding there is one more request we have already made and has not been honored. Since LACRALO leadership will filter the proposals, it must lay out a proposal for criteria, process, and timelines for such approval, and get it voted.
Regarding Dev's proposal to focus on extending ALS membership to countries that do not presently have an ALS, yes, but it continues to reinforce the trend to avoid dividing the unchallenged monopoly each present ALS enjoys in small countries when it comes to weighted voting.
Alejandro Pisanty
------------------------------ *De:* lac-discuss-en <lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> en nombre de Laura Margolis <margolisl@gmail.com> *Enviado:* lunes, 5 de junio de 2023 11:43 a. m. *Para:* Dev Anand Teelucksingh *CC:* LAC-Discuss-en *Asunto:* Re: [lac-discuss-en] LAC Strategy for Outreach and Engagement
Dear Dev,
Excellent observations and suggestions.
Of course our region should reach out to all the countries where there is still no presence, as a priority. I guess that will be part of the O&E strategy.
I agree with your view regarding CROP fundings.
Also I think we should also work to discredit all ALS which are not more engaged with ICANN for different reasons, so we can have an updated and real list of LACRALO's ALS.
I understand Lilian De Luque is our regional's liaison with O&E, but do we have a group working on this? If not, how is our region going to take action on the plan?
Best,
Laura Margolis
El lun, 5 jun 2023 a las 12:53, Dev Anand Teelucksingh (<devtee@gmail.com>) escribió:
Dear Claire,
According to the ICANN Stakeholder Tool (https://bitly.com/ICANNST), there are 12 countries in the LAC region that do not have At-Large Structures. These are :
Antigua and Barbuda (.ag) Bahamas (.bs) Belize (.bz) Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and Saba (.bq) The Commonwealth of Dominica (.dm) Grenada (.gd) Guatemala (.gt) Saint Barthélemy (.bl) Saint Kitts and Nevis (.kn) Saint Martin (French part) (.mf) Sint Maarten (Dutch part) (.sx) Republic of Suriname (.sr)
Outreach should therefore be targeted to get suitable organisations in these 12 countries to join At-Large.
Initiatives such as Community Regional Outreach Program (CROP) could be used for such outreach.
However, the proposed CROP strategy in the draft document says "1. Whenever a new outreach opportunity becomes available, the LACRALO leadership will send an email to the community, informing them about the opportunity, and inviting members to apply to the CROP. 2. All LACRALO members are eligible to apply for the CROP program. 3. To apply for a CROP opportunity, members should follow the application process: https://community.icann.org/display/soacabout/Community+Regional+Outreach+Pr... 4, If there are more than two LACRALO members applying for the same CROP opportunity, the LACRALO leadership will invite the community to vote on the selection of the candidate who will be granted the CROP slot"
This proposed strategy can unnecessarily create delays in filing a successful CROP application to an outreach event given the need to submit and get approved a CROP application 6-8 weeks before the outreach event.
Given that LACRALO leadership will advertise a CROP opportunity, the LACRALO leadership should first reach out to ALS members that are in the subregion of the CROP outreach event to attend. Only if persons from the subregion are not able to attend, then it goes out to the wider LACRALO.
Kind Regards,
Dev Anand Teelucksingh Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society at https://ttcs.tt
On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 1:33 PM Claire Craig <claireccraig@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All Please see attached the LACRALO Outreach and Engagement Plan which was discussed at the last LACRALO Monthly Call.
Please provide your comments by Wednesday 7 June, 2023 so that it can be approved for FY 24. If not comments are received, the plan would be considered as final and forwarded to the ICANN org staff,
I look forward to your feedback as soon as possible.
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I offer some further clarity and context to Dev's information. Some of the territories named by Dev are still in colonial ties to Europe and usually counted as political entities of the metropolitan power; count the Dutch territories of Bonaire, St. Eustatius and Saba and St. Maarten and the French territories of Saint Martin and Saint Barthelemy. Any ALS developed would likely be EURALO-affiliated but may decide - as is the case with Martinique - to caucus with LACRALO. We in the Caribbean actively encourage such associations. We have exploited connections to the telco and tertiary education sectors plus regulators to advance the ICANN agenda across CARICOM. The Caribbean Internet Governance Forum (CIGF) has been a principal vehicle for enabling these connections. CROPP outreach to Suriname has resulted in an ISOC chapter but not an ALS to date. Outreach to the Bahamas, Dominica and Belize has resulted in active participation in the ccNSO; we know the individuals and they caucus with the Caribbean-in-ICANN grouping. Following the Caribbean engagement model, it is likely any ALS developed in those jurisdictions will have to be booted by folks from government, academia and the telecoms sectors that are already engaged and knowledgeable about ICANN. We have gone to Guatemala City's Francisco Marroquin University - as part of a [Microsoft] Partners in Learning initiative - but used the opportunity to promote the ICANN agenda to the ICT leadership there. If memory serves there was a successful fellowship application from there. I'm less aware of what has transpired since then. Carlton Samuels ============================== *Carlton A Samuels* *Mobile: 876-818-1799Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 at 10:53, Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Claire,
According to the ICANN Stakeholder Tool (https://bitly.com/ICANNST), there are 12 countries in the LAC region that do not have At-Large Structures. These are :
Antigua and Barbuda (.ag) Bahamas (.bs) Belize (.bz) Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and Saba (.bq) The Commonwealth of Dominica (.dm) Grenada (.gd) Guatemala (.gt) Saint Barthélemy (.bl) Saint Kitts and Nevis (.kn) Saint Martin (French part) (.mf) Sint Maarten (Dutch part) (.sx) Republic of Suriname (.sr)
Outreach should therefore be targeted to get suitable organisations in these 12 countries to join At-Large.
Initiatives such as Community Regional Outreach Program (CROP) could be used for such outreach.
However, the proposed CROP strategy in the draft document says "1. Whenever a new outreach opportunity becomes available, the LACRALO leadership will send an email to the community, informing them about the opportunity, and inviting members to apply to the CROP. 2. All LACRALO members are eligible to apply for the CROP program. 3. To apply for a CROP opportunity, members should follow the application process: https://community.icann.org/display/soacabout/Community+Regional+Outreach+Pr... 4, If there are more than two LACRALO members applying for the same CROP opportunity, the LACRALO leadership will invite the community to vote on the selection of the candidate who will be granted the CROP slot"
This proposed strategy can unnecessarily create delays in filing a successful CROP application to an outreach event given the need to submit and get approved a CROP application 6-8 weeks before the outreach event.
Given that LACRALO leadership will advertise a CROP opportunity, the LACRALO leadership should first reach out to ALS members that are in the subregion of the CROP outreach event to attend. Only if persons from the subregion are not able to attend, then it goes out to the wider LACRALO.
Kind Regards,
Dev Anand Teelucksingh Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society at https://ttcs.tt
On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 1:33 PM Claire Craig <claireccraig@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All Please see attached the LACRALO Outreach and Engagement Plan which was discussed at the last LACRALO Monthly Call.
Please provide your comments by Wednesday 7 June, 2023 so that it can be approved for FY 24. If not comments are received, the plan would be considered as final and forwarded to the ICANN org staff,
I look forward to your feedback as soon as possible.
Claire C. Craig LACRALO Secretariat
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Dear All Having received no further input at 23:00 UTC today, the attached LACRALO Outreach and Engagement 2023 (FY23/FY24) Plan is considered final. By copy of this email, the plan is sent to ICANN GSE staff for approval. Please be guided accordingly. Claire C. Craig LACRALO Secretariat On Tue, 6 Jun 2023 at 13:50, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> wrote:
I offer some further clarity and context to Dev's information.
Some of the territories named by Dev are still in colonial ties to Europe and usually counted as political entities of the metropolitan power; count the Dutch territories of Bonaire, St. Eustatius and Saba and St. Maarten and the French territories of Saint Martin and Saint Barthelemy. Any ALS developed would likely be EURALO-affiliated but may decide - as is the case with Martinique - to caucus with LACRALO. We in the Caribbean actively encourage such associations.
We have exploited connections to the telco and tertiary education sectors plus regulators to advance the ICANN agenda across CARICOM. The Caribbean Internet Governance Forum (CIGF) has been a principal vehicle for enabling these connections. CROPP outreach to Suriname has resulted in an ISOC chapter but not an ALS to date.
Outreach to the Bahamas, Dominica and Belize has resulted in active participation in the ccNSO; we know the individuals and they caucus with the Caribbean-in-ICANN grouping. Following the Caribbean engagement model, it is likely any ALS developed in those jurisdictions will have to be booted by folks from government, academia and the telecoms sectors that are already engaged and knowledgeable about ICANN.
We have gone to Guatemala City's Francisco Marroquin University - as part of a [Microsoft] Partners in Learning initiative - but used the opportunity to promote the ICANN agenda to the ICT leadership there. If memory serves there was a successful fellowship application from there. I'm less aware of what has transpired since then.
Carlton Samuels
============================== *Carlton A Samuels*
*Mobile: 876-818-1799Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 at 10:53, Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Claire,
According to the ICANN Stakeholder Tool (https://bitly.com/ICANNST), there are 12 countries in the LAC region that do not have At-Large Structures. These are :
Antigua and Barbuda (.ag) Bahamas (.bs) Belize (.bz) Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and Saba (.bq) The Commonwealth of Dominica (.dm) Grenada (.gd) Guatemala (.gt) Saint Barthélemy (.bl) Saint Kitts and Nevis (.kn) Saint Martin (French part) (.mf) Sint Maarten (Dutch part) (.sx) Republic of Suriname (.sr)
Outreach should therefore be targeted to get suitable organisations in these 12 countries to join At-Large.
Initiatives such as Community Regional Outreach Program (CROP) could be used for such outreach.
However, the proposed CROP strategy in the draft document says "1. Whenever a new outreach opportunity becomes available, the LACRALO leadership will send an email to the community, informing them about the opportunity, and inviting members to apply to the CROP. 2. All LACRALO members are eligible to apply for the CROP program. 3. To apply for a CROP opportunity, members should follow the application process: https://community.icann.org/display/soacabout/Community+Regional+Outreach+Pr... 4, If there are more than two LACRALO members applying for the same CROP opportunity, the LACRALO leadership will invite the community to vote on the selection of the candidate who will be granted the CROP slot"
This proposed strategy can unnecessarily create delays in filing a successful CROP application to an outreach event given the need to submit and get approved a CROP application 6-8 weeks before the outreach event.
Given that LACRALO leadership will advertise a CROP opportunity, the LACRALO leadership should first reach out to ALS members that are in the subregion of the CROP outreach event to attend. Only if persons from the subregion are not able to attend, then it goes out to the wider LACRALO.
Kind Regards,
Dev Anand Teelucksingh Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society at https://ttcs.tt
On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 1:33 PM Claire Craig <claireccraig@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All Please see attached the LACRALO Outreach and Engagement Plan which was discussed at the last LACRALO Monthly Call.
Please provide your comments by Wednesday 7 June, 2023 so that it can be approved for FY 24. If not comments are received, the plan would be considered as final and forwarded to the ICANN org staff,
I look forward to your feedback as soon as possible.
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Dear Claire, Thank you for your hard work. I think we should create a group to work on this topic, as a region. See you soon in DC. Best, Laura Margolis El mié, 7 jun 2023 a las 21:06, Claire Craig (<claireccraig@gmail.com>) escribió:
Dear All Having received no further input at 23:00 UTC today, the attached LACRALO Outreach and Engagement 2023 (FY23/FY24) Plan is considered final.
By copy of this email, the plan is sent to ICANN GSE staff for approval.
Please be guided accordingly.
Claire C. Craig LACRALO Secretariat
On Tue, 6 Jun 2023 at 13:50, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> wrote:
I offer some further clarity and context to Dev's information.
Some of the territories named by Dev are still in colonial ties to Europe and usually counted as political entities of the metropolitan power; count the Dutch territories of Bonaire, St. Eustatius and Saba and St. Maarten and the French territories of Saint Martin and Saint Barthelemy. Any ALS developed would likely be EURALO-affiliated but may decide - as is the case with Martinique - to caucus with LACRALO. We in the Caribbean actively encourage such associations.
We have exploited connections to the telco and tertiary education sectors plus regulators to advance the ICANN agenda across CARICOM. The Caribbean Internet Governance Forum (CIGF) has been a principal vehicle for enabling these connections. CROPP outreach to Suriname has resulted in an ISOC chapter but not an ALS to date.
Outreach to the Bahamas, Dominica and Belize has resulted in active participation in the ccNSO; we know the individuals and they caucus with the Caribbean-in-ICANN grouping. Following the Caribbean engagement model, it is likely any ALS developed in those jurisdictions will have to be booted by folks from government, academia and the telecoms sectors that are already engaged and knowledgeable about ICANN.
We have gone to Guatemala City's Francisco Marroquin University - as part of a [Microsoft] Partners in Learning initiative - but used the opportunity to promote the ICANN agenda to the ICT leadership there. If memory serves there was a successful fellowship application from there. I'm less aware of what has transpired since then.
Carlton Samuels
============================== *Carlton A Samuels*
*Mobile: 876-818-1799Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 at 10:53, Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Claire,
According to the ICANN Stakeholder Tool (https://bitly.com/ICANNST), there are 12 countries in the LAC region that do not have At-Large Structures. These are :
Antigua and Barbuda (.ag) Bahamas (.bs) Belize (.bz) Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and Saba (.bq) The Commonwealth of Dominica (.dm) Grenada (.gd) Guatemala (.gt) Saint Barthélemy (.bl) Saint Kitts and Nevis (.kn) Saint Martin (French part) (.mf) Sint Maarten (Dutch part) (.sx) Republic of Suriname (.sr)
Outreach should therefore be targeted to get suitable organisations in these 12 countries to join At-Large.
Initiatives such as Community Regional Outreach Program (CROP) could be used for such outreach.
However, the proposed CROP strategy in the draft document says "1. Whenever a new outreach opportunity becomes available, the LACRALO leadership will send an email to the community, informing them about the opportunity, and inviting members to apply to the CROP. 2. All LACRALO members are eligible to apply for the CROP program. 3. To apply for a CROP opportunity, members should follow the application process: https://community.icann.org/display/soacabout/Community+Regional+Outreach+Pr... 4, If there are more than two LACRALO members applying for the same CROP opportunity, the LACRALO leadership will invite the community to vote on the selection of the candidate who will be granted the CROP slot"
This proposed strategy can unnecessarily create delays in filing a successful CROP application to an outreach event given the need to submit and get approved a CROP application 6-8 weeks before the outreach event.
Given that LACRALO leadership will advertise a CROP opportunity, the LACRALO leadership should first reach out to ALS members that are in the subregion of the CROP outreach event to attend. Only if persons from the subregion are not able to attend, then it goes out to the wider LACRALO.
Kind Regards,
Dev Anand Teelucksingh Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society at https://ttcs.tt
On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 1:33 PM Claire Craig <claireccraig@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All Please see attached the LACRALO Outreach and Engagement Plan which was discussed at the last LACRALO Monthly Call.
Please provide your comments by Wednesday 7 June, 2023 so that it can be approved for FY 24. If not comments are received, the plan would be considered as final and forwarded to the ICANN org staff,
I look forward to your feedback as soon as possible.
Claire C. Craig LACRALO Secretariat
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Hi, since the revised plan did not incorporate planning technique and only absorbed a few actions related to "discrediting" (should be disaccrediting, I think) ALSs, Laura's motion seems worthy of consideration. I move that Alberto Soto be designated Convener of a Standing Working Group on Planning and be given all support possible by the community. His proven professional experience over decades, and his previous contributions to LACRALO planning, are a solid guarantee that, if properly supported, this work can produce good results. I have not consulted him before making this proposal. Alejandro Pisanty ________________________________ De: lac-discuss-en <lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> en nombre de Laura Margolis <margolisl@gmail.com> Enviado: miércoles, 7 de junio de 2023 07:34 p. m. Para: Claire Craig CC: LAC-Discuss-en; Augusto Ho Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] LAC Strategy for Outreach and Engagement Dear Claire, Thank you for your hard work. I think we should create a group to work on this topic, as a region. See you soon in DC. Best, Laura Margolis El mié, 7 jun 2023 a las 21:06, Claire Craig (<claireccraig@gmail.com<mailto:claireccraig@gmail.com>>) escribió: Dear All Having received no further input at 23:00 UTC today, the attached LACRALO Outreach and Engagement 2023 (FY23/FY24) Plan is considered final. By copy of this email, the plan is sent to ICANN GSE staff for approval. Please be guided accordingly. Claire C. Craig LACRALO Secretariat On Tue, 6 Jun 2023 at 13:50, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com<mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com>> wrote: I offer some further clarity and context to Dev's information. Some of the territories named by Dev are still in colonial ties to Europe and usually counted as political entities of the metropolitan power; count the Dutch territories of Bonaire, St. Eustatius and Saba and St. Maarten and the French territories of Saint Martin and Saint Barthelemy. Any ALS developed would likely be EURALO-affiliated but may decide - as is the case with Martinique - to caucus with LACRALO. We in the Caribbean actively encourage such associations. We have exploited connections to the telco and tertiary education sectors plus regulators to advance the ICANN agenda across CARICOM. The Caribbean Internet Governance Forum (CIGF) has been a principal vehicle for enabling these connections. CROPP outreach to Suriname has resulted in an ISOC chapter but not an ALS to date. Outreach to the Bahamas, Dominica and Belize has resulted in active participation in the ccNSO; we know the individuals and they caucus with the Caribbean-in-ICANN grouping. Following the Caribbean engagement model, it is likely any ALS developed in those jurisdictions will have to be booted by folks from government, academia and the telecoms sectors that are already engaged and knowledgeable about ICANN. We have gone to Guatemala City's Francisco Marroquin University - as part of a [Microsoft] Partners in Learning initiative - but used the opportunity to promote the ICANN agenda to the ICT leadership there. If memory serves there was a successful fellowship application from there. I'm less aware of what has transpired since then. Carlton Samuels ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround ============================= On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 at 10:53, Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com<mailto:devtee@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear Claire, According to the ICANN Stakeholder Tool (https://bitly.com/ICANNST), there are 12 countries in the LAC region that do not have At-Large Structures. These are : Antigua and Barbuda (.ag) Bahamas (.bs) Belize (.bz) Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and Saba (.bq) The Commonwealth of Dominica (.dm) Grenada (.gd) Guatemala (.gt) Saint Barthélemy (.bl) Saint Kitts and Nevis (.kn) Saint Martin (French part) (.mf) Sint Maarten (Dutch part) (.sx) Republic of Suriname (.sr) Outreach should therefore be targeted to get suitable organisations in these 12 countries to join At-Large. Initiatives such as Community Regional Outreach Program (CROP) could be used for such outreach. However, the proposed CROP strategy in the draft document says "1. Whenever a new outreach opportunity becomes available, the LACRALO leadership will send an email to the community, informing them about the opportunity, and inviting members to apply to the CROP. 2. All LACRALO members are eligible to apply for the CROP program. 3. To apply for a CROP opportunity, members should follow the application process: https://community.icann.org/display/soacabout/Community+Regional+Outreach+Pr... 4, If there are more than two LACRALO members applying for the same CROP opportunity, the LACRALO leadership will invite the community to vote on the selection of the candidate who will be granted the CROP slot" This proposed strategy can unnecessarily create delays in filing a successful CROP application to an outreach event given the need to submit and get approved a CROP application 6-8 weeks before the outreach event. Given that LACRALO leadership will advertise a CROP opportunity, the LACRALO leadership should first reach out to ALS members that are in the subregion of the CROP outreach event to attend. Only if persons from the subregion are not able to attend, then it goes out to the wider LACRALO. Kind Regards, Dev Anand Teelucksingh Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society at https://ttcs.tt On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 1:33 PM Claire Craig <claireccraig@gmail.com<mailto:claireccraig@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear All Please see attached the LACRALO Outreach and Engagement Plan which was discussed at the last LACRALO Monthly Call. Please provide your comments by Wednesday 7 June, 2023 so that it can be approved for FY 24. If not comments are received, the plan would be considered as final and forwarded to the ICANN org staff, I look forward to your feedback as soon as possible. Claire C. 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Dear Alberto Congrats. I am with Alex here. You have been so dedicated to LACRALO for years, I believe you are certainly the best choice for this position!. Count on me as always ! Besos Vanda From: lac-discuss-en <lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <apisan@unam.mx> Date: Thursday, 8 June 2023 00:27 To: Laura Margolis <margolisl@gmail.com>, Claire Craig <claireccraig@gmail.com> Cc: LAC-Discuss-en <lac-discuss-en@icann.org>, Augusto Ho <aho@usma.ac.pa> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] LAC Strategy for Outreach and Engagement Hi, since the revised plan did not incorporate planning technique and only absorbed a few actions related to "discrediting" (should be disaccrediting, I think) ALSs, Laura's motion seems worthy of consideration. I move that Alberto Soto be designated Convener of a Standing Working Group on Planning and be given all support possible by the community. His proven professional experience over decades, and his previous contributions to LACRALO planning, are a solid guarantee that, if properly supported, this work can produce good results. I have not consulted him before making this proposal. Alejandro Pisanty ________________________________ De: lac-discuss-en <lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> en nombre de Laura Margolis <margolisl@gmail.com> Enviado: miércoles, 7 de junio de 2023 07:34 p. m. Para: Claire Craig CC: LAC-Discuss-en; Augusto Ho Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] LAC Strategy for Outreach and Engagement Dear Claire, Thank you for your hard work. I think we should create a group to work on this topic, as a region. See you soon in DC. Best, Laura Margolis El mié, 7 jun 2023 a las 21:06, Claire Craig (<claireccraig@gmail.com<mailto:claireccraig@gmail.com>>) escribió: Dear All Having received no further input at 23:00 UTC today, the attached LACRALO Outreach and Engagement 2023 (FY23/FY24) Plan is considered final. By copy of this email, the plan is sent to ICANN GSE staff for approval. Please be guided accordingly. Claire C. Craig LACRALO Secretariat On Tue, 6 Jun 2023 at 13:50, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com<mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com>> wrote: I offer some further clarity and context to Dev's information. Some of the territories named by Dev are still in colonial ties to Europe and usually counted as political entities of the metropolitan power; count the Dutch territories of Bonaire, St. Eustatius and Saba and St. Maarten and the French territories of Saint Martin and Saint Barthelemy. Any ALS developed would likely be EURALO-affiliated but may decide - as is the case with Martinique - to caucus with LACRALO. We in the Caribbean actively encourage such associations. We have exploited connections to the telco and tertiary education sectors plus regulators to advance the ICANN agenda across CARICOM. The Caribbean Internet Governance Forum (CIGF) has been a principal vehicle for enabling these connections. CROPP outreach to Suriname has resulted in an ISOC chapter but not an ALS to date. Outreach to the Bahamas, Dominica and Belize has resulted in active participation in the ccNSO; we know the individuals and they caucus with the Caribbean-in-ICANN grouping. Following the Caribbean engagement model, it is likely any ALS developed in those jurisdictions will have to be booted by folks from government, academia and the telecoms sectors that are already engaged and knowledgeable about ICANN. We have gone to Guatemala City's Francisco Marroquin University - as part of a [Microsoft] Partners in Learning initiative - but used the opportunity to promote the ICANN agenda to the ICT leadership there. If memory serves there was a successful fellowship application from there. I'm less aware of what has transpired since then. Carlton Samuels ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround ============================= On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 at 10:53, Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com<mailto:devtee@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear Claire, According to the ICANN Stakeholder Tool (https://bitly.com/ICANNST), there are 12 countries in the LAC region that do not have At-Large Structures. These are : Antigua and Barbuda (.ag) Bahamas (.bs) Belize (.bz) Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and Saba (.bq) The Commonwealth of Dominica (.dm) Grenada (.gd) Guatemala (.gt) Saint Barthélemy (.bl) Saint Kitts and Nevis (.kn) Saint Martin (French part) (.mf) Sint Maarten (Dutch part) (.sx) Republic of Suriname (.sr) Outreach should therefore be targeted to get suitable organisations in these 12 countries to join At-Large. Initiatives such as Community Regional Outreach Program (CROP) could be used for such outreach. However, the proposed CROP strategy in the draft document says "1. Whenever a new outreach opportunity becomes available, the LACRALO leadership will send an email to the community, informing them about the opportunity, and inviting members to apply to the CROP. 2. All LACRALO members are eligible to apply for the CROP program. 3. To apply for a CROP opportunity, members should follow the application process: https://community.icann.org/display/soacabout/Community+Regional+Outreach+Pr... 4, If there are more than two LACRALO members applying for the same CROP opportunity, the LACRALO leadership will invite the community to vote on the selection of the candidate who will be granted the CROP slot" This proposed strategy can unnecessarily create delays in filing a successful CROP application to an outreach event given the need to submit and get approved a CROP application 6-8 weeks before the outreach event. Given that LACRALO leadership will advertise a CROP opportunity, the LACRALO leadership should first reach out to ALS members that are in the subregion of the CROP outreach event to attend. Only if persons from the subregion are not able to attend, then it goes out to the wider LACRALO. Kind Regards, Dev Anand Teelucksingh Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society at https://ttcs.tt On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 1:33 PM Claire Craig <claireccraig@gmail.com<mailto:claireccraig@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear All Please see attached the LACRALO Outreach and Engagement Plan which was discussed at the last LACRALO Monthly Call. Please provide your comments by Wednesday 7 June, 2023 so that it can be approved for FY 24. If not comments are received, the plan would be considered as final and forwarded to the ICANN org staff, I look forward to your feedback as soon as possible. Claire C. 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You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. -- Laura Margolis margolisl@gmail.com<mailto:margolisl@gmail.com> Office: ++598 27066044 Mobile / Whatsapp ++598 99690992 skype: lauri.margolis
participants (8)
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Carlton Samuels -
Claire C. Craig -
Claire Craig
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Dev Anand Teelucksingh -
Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch -
Laura Margolis -
lilian ivette de luque bruges -
Vanda Scartezini