[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =? Iso-8859-1? Q? = 3D = 3F_Iso-8859-1 = 3F_Q = 3F_Confusi? Iso ==-8859-1? Q? = F3n_ = 3D_F3n = 5F-= 5FClarF3n = 5Fde = 5Fla = 3F_ 5FRegi_ = 3D =? Iso ==-8859-1? Q? = 3D = 3D_Iso-8859-1 = 3F_Q = 3F_Ificaci_ = 3D_F3n 3F_ = 3D =? = From: asoto@ibero-americano.org Thanks Roosvelt Alberto ----- Original Message ----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On behalf of rok@bango.org.bb Posted on: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:36 pm To lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] =? Iso-8859-1? Q? = 3D = 3F_Iso-8859-1 = 3F_Q = 3F_Confusi? Iso ==-8859-1? Q? = F3n_ = 3D_F3n = 5F-= 5FClarF3n = 5Fde = 5Fla = 3F_ 5FRegi_ = 3D =? Iso ==-8859-1? Q? = 3D = 3D_Iso-8859-1 = 3F_Q = 3F_Ificaci_ = 3D_F3n 3F_ = 3D =? = [[- Translated text (in -> s) -]] Subject: Re: =? Iso-8859-1? Q?= 3D = 3F_Iso-8859-1 = 3F_Q = 3F_Confusi? == Iso-8859-1? Q? = F3n_ = 3D_F3n = 5F-= 5FClarF3n = 5Fde = 5Fla = 5FRegi_ = 3D = 3F_? Iso ==-8859-1? Q? = 3D = 3D_Iso-8859-1 = 3F_Q = 3F_Ificaci_ = 3D_F3n 3F_ = 3D =? = From: rok@bango.org.bb Sorry Alberto, I have not written anything offensive. Therefore, it must be translation. Again, I did not write anything offensive. South Korea ----- Original Message ----- From: asoto@ibero-americano.org Posted: Sunday, August 19, 2012 10:29 A: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] =? Iso-8859-1? Q? = 3D = 3F_Iso-8859-1 = 3F_Q = 3F_Confusi? Iso ==-8859-1? Q? = F3n_ = 3D_F3n = 5F-= 5FClarF3n = 5Fde = 5Fla = 3F_ 5FRegi_ = 3D =? Iso ==-8859-1? Q? = 3D = 3D_Iso-8859-1 = 3F_Q = 3F_Ificaci_ = 3D_F3n 3F_ = 3D =? = [[- Text Translation An (en -> en) -]] Subject: Re: =? Iso-8859-1? Q? = 3D = 3F_Iso-8859-1 = 3F_Q = 3F_Confusi? == Iso-8859-1? Q? = F3n_ = 3D_F3n = 5F-= 5FClarF3n = 5Fde = 5FRegi_ = 3D 5Fla = = 3F_? Iso ==-8859-1? q? = 3D = 3D_Iso-8859-1 = 3F_Q = 3F_Ificaci_ = 3D_F3n 3F_ = 3D =? = From: asoto@ibero-americano.org Please can someone translate inglsa Rok, to stop no offense? Rok, can reduce your feedback please speechless offensive? Do not know the right way, without offending? If you do not know do not deberhacer ... Alberto Soto ----- Original Message ----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On behalf of rok@bango.org.bb Posted on: Sunday, August 19, 2012 11:09 a.m. To lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org ~ ~ V Subject: Re: =? Iso-8859-1? Q? Confusion = F3n_-_ClarF3n_de_la_Regi =? == Iso-8859-1? Q? Ificaci = F3n? = [[- Translated text (-> s) -]] Subject: Re: =? Iso-8859-1? Q? = Confusion F3n_-_ClarF3n_de_la_Regi =? == Iso-8859-1? Q? Ificaci = F3n? = From: rok@bango.org.bb Jose, I have problems in translation, but from what I understand that means, this is my answer: You did make a decision that is not really yours. Incapable determine that a candidate does not meet the requirements when ample evidence in the rules indicates that the applicant meets the requirements. A decisin decisin is in one way or another. Is a cuestin of tratde opininy to impose their point of view. If one rules Quera President of implementation of the decisions that have been written in the same explaining how the administrative function of the discharge. If a estahno rule can not be assumed that this can be done function. The rules are very clear and can not be attributed to a role smismo this is hay.Hay not a reason to quel the president has no executive power estclaro role and the rules that the reason for this is not like, this is action because the rules for all members to participate in the take making. This is very consistent with the spirit of the reglas.Ques inconsistent with the rules is that a person can not make a decision in names of all members of LACRALO and therefore, in the absence of to make such provisions especficas decisin, you exceed your limits, if you do. In the so-called right Accin "Vires Ultra ". How can it be a mistake to let the members decide?Do you saying that members are not competent to make this decision? Or are you afraid of that more Humberto decided to comply with the requirement, which is what you do not want? No more trust to make the decision correct? Now this is a problem. You are not "president". You is chairman. Use word president is misleading and can not assume that because you are the President for the entire executive branch. His role as President writes to the operating principles of LACRALO Paragraph 4: "Its functions include, among other things, establish a link between ALAC discussions and contributions from the region, representing The ALAC region in face to face meetings and discussions main Assembly held through discussion lists, teleconferences and face to face meetings. ' No decision here, except in meetings of presidents. Although its role as emissary allows no decision or declare any LACRALO positions that were not approved by the members of LACRALO. It seems clear to me that the rules are written in this way, since LACRALO based on the total participation, which is a fundamental aspect of democracy.Also mean ICANN and LACRALO not want any decision of a single man. It established width inputs. This is consistent with the form in ICANN operates (looking the contributions of users) and, obviously, was established LACRALO this spirit. According to the rules, this is not a demonstration of a men. It is a collective operation. Let us therefore respect the rules and not mock the rules to do what a man wants to be. To use the preferred term, there is no "electrical" \\ U200b \\ u200ben's hands President, all the power is in the hands of the members collectively.The rules are very clear on this point.As'm not a member LACRALO sit and let you make a record that goes against the spirit of ICANN LACRALO or that have been created with the specific purpose of gathering user feedback to influence policy ICANN. Let me say here that the Secretariat has all the power executive given powers and this is limited to the administration, while the President no executive powers whatsoever. Once again the role of is the organization reason for this, because even the Secretariat can not take such a decision. I therefore suggest that you familiarize yourself with the rules of avoid repeating such debacle.También suggest that members made the rules were not hallucinating or drunk in the time knew exactly what they were doing and they wrote exactly how Manage.The organization wanted "power" of LACRALO is in the Assembly and specifies what constitutes the Assembly. South Korea ----- Original Message ----- From: josefranciscoarce@gmail.com Posted: Sunday, August 19, 2012 8:59 A: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: [lac-discuss-es] =? Iso-8859-1? Q? Confusion = F3n_-_ClarF3n_de_la_Regi =? Iso == -8859 to 1? Q? Ificaci = F3n? = [[- Text translation (en -> en) -]] Subject: =? Iso-8859-1? Q? Confusion = F3n_-_Clar F3n_de_la_Regi =? == Iso-8859-1? Q? Ificaci = F3n? = From: josefranciscoarce@gmail.com Dear, Just to clarify the situation so far seems confused about of of the issue of implementation of ALAC, briefly the situation raised. 1) Most of you have spoken out against what The president's decision drew. I have that first error. Never decisin take some text and copy the last paragraph of my post e, where You see, just say the word THINK. All that is alles correct derivatives. Presidency has made no decision. * ... The Presidency considers that Carrasco Sr.Humberto residency requirements to be considered a candidate vlido within the electoral process, which is open to cover LACRALO representative office to ALAC * ... 2) It is a mistake to go to a match or not votacin decisin does not exist and never existed. This president does not expressly against which the region is expressed and to make the decision.: What will not and allow opondr me, voting is based on incorrect assumptions and Against decisions that did not exist. 3) Not having clear rules brings disadvantages. The powers of the estn presidency within a frame within a valid assembly. No ALUSIN there any permisin to make a decision of that kind, but there is no explicit denial thereof. With these points covering cuestin aqusolo wanted to clarify, and Monday tendroportunidad day to answer questions want.Once again, the president never had a decisin nor opposed the votacin.Asimismo consult with legal staff of ICANN, and talk to everyone who should speak cuestin also expressed in my email. I ask all who read the email again and if doubt consult close range. With this aclaracin, hopefully clarification on Monday and fix everything. Regards JosArce _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/65aa0944c6.html --]]