[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: HEAD OF CATTLE: Geograficas Regions From: vanda@uol.com.br Considered I want to add to this subject the experience that we had in Fellowship Program from 2007 when we began. We had one longa discussion com members of all the regions and we obtained a division that until today is working very well. a) LAC - there was no position as much of existing members as of fellows during these years that I have suggested any change in the division that today it is. The Caribbean & Latin America feel perfectly located in a same region. b) Europe - they consider the division perfect that the community accepts and that now it reunites all of the leste. c) the North America, although Mexico is part of the North, quedose only com the countries Canada and the United States d) the problem was in Asia and Africa, where we managed to divide them, traverse of the continents like down: · Arab community - including to all with Arab ancestry, they in Africa or Oriente.medio esteban · The STAN - including all those of completion - stan in English- they afganistan, Pakistan, they turquistan, etc... that if they feel totally outside of all the others, including India among them · The Asians as we understand, including Japan, China, Taiwan, Malaysia, Singapur, Thailand, Korea etc.... · Those of Sul Pacific - that include the islands that are countries around Australia. With this division the Fellows, during these + of 10 meetings, did notleave of to feel represented always well. I believe that the experience of fellows must be considered. Hugs Vanda Scartezini Pole Consulting Associados IT Trend Tree-lined avenue Holy 1470 - 1407,8 01418-903 São Paulo, SP, Brazil Tel + 5511 3266.6253 Mob + 55118181.1464 -----Mensagem original Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] command post nome of Alexander Pisanty Shipment command post: sixth-feira, 28 of janeiro of 2011 23:13 It stops: presidency Argentina Internaut Cc: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org Assunto: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Geograficas Regions Sergio, Carlos, Andrés, it seems to me that the communication emitted by the members of LACRALO that they reside in the Caribbean denies the complacencia of these participation of You and the one of Javier Pallero. It seems to me outside place your commentary, Sergio, in whom you are surprised of that the ALS of the Caribbean did not discuss in this list. Yes he is correct to ask which adhere to the communication, but also is necessary to ask to us what so deep is the problem. The problem must be analyzed as a problem of the community and as a fault of leadership from previous administration. We cannot deny that there is a situation of exclusion, and we cannot assume it as a collective fault of the community only, if our elect representatives and civil employees do not take care of it of dedicated way. The communication of the Caribbean is aligned with the one of Carlos Side and returns concrete the effects of the principles that it discusses. It is possible to mention that Olga Cavalli participated in the processing of the report in comment like member of the GNSO Council and surely it will be able to clarify muchof which LACRALO need to understand better and you will be able to transmit what we need to transmit. And in addition, that communication sample that the application of those principles it has serious effects. Those effects are so serious that theycan take to LACRALO division, well by a massive affiliation of the membersof The Caribbean to NARLAO, or by a weakening or disappearance ofhis participation in LACRALO, that is of regional base, changing it by one active participation in the group of small states insulares, that reflects conditions of its countries that are more determining of theirreality in subjects of Internet that its location. Sergio, what you propose? By the position to that you were elect, I believe that you are forced at least a to initiate an intensive process of consultations. That process of private and public consultations must show if thereare mechanisms and sufficient will so that the Thin ones of the continent we workaltogether with those of the Caribbean or if, by the opposite, it is necessary to begin to work on a split base. And that is due to reflect in which LACRALO thinks on the ICANN report referring to the definition of geographic regions. In my vision, a split will be a lamentable result. SECOND POINT. The impact of a split of this nature is ample. We would be adding us to the reasons and precedents that would give foundation that others regions also were divided and to that organizations like a region were created, and a THIN one, for, what will be, North Africa and a part of Means Orient, Western Asia? Although the report in comment does not enter these discussions, the Caribbean it is advancing to the conclusions at which the following one had to arrive analysis round. The cuestionamiento of the Caribbean is serious, I repeat it. And therefore she is one hard call of attention to LACRALO, beyond the preservation of statu quo in our own region or a change in the same one. Hopefully these lines serve so that Sergio and who it can summon - INCLUDING COLLEAGUES Of the CARIBBEAN - they make an exposition new who we pruned to debate and to decide soon. Warm greetings. Alexander Pisanty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr Alexander Pisanty UNAM, Av. 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Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 20:43:05 -0300 From: presidency Argentina Internaut <presidencia@internauta.org.ar> To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Geograficas Regions

Welcome Javier! Thanks for your contribution and commentaries. Such they are had in counts. * * Warm greetings

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the 28/01/2011 04:33 p.m., <mailto:j.karmakiller@gmail.com> j.karmakiller@gmail.com escribió: > Dear friends of the list of Mail: > > > is the first time that I participate! I take advantage ofto send my greetings to all. > My name is Javier Pallero, of Ageia Densi Argentina. > > > With respect to the document on geogr?ficas regions, is my humble one > opinion that the criterion that had to be used (but alla to look for > a legitimation in the uses of the UN or other organisms > international) is the one of the communicational practicidad within organizacion. > > > Because ICANN is an immense structure, with interactions between > diverse disciplines of work, organizations, governments, etc > nomenclature on Geograficas Regions deberia to be an own one and that > facilitates the use and understanding on the part of mayoria of > subject involved in ICANN. > > > the present one, for example, condice with the effective distribution of RIRs. > Habria that to stand out as is the present use that the actors of ICANN in > their diverse activities makes and to unify for that side. > > > the words is noises, and the classifications, categorias > communicational. That she is what but people use and she contributes to unify > criteria within organizacion, is what preferir?a. > > > Greetings! > > > > > _________________________________________ Javier PalleroDerecho and > Society of Informaci?n - AGEIA DENSI > > <http://linkedin.com/javierpallero> http://linkedin.com/javierpallero > <http://javierpallero.tumblr.com> http://javierpallero.tumblr.com > > sent from * > * > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > <mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > <https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-it is > > <http://www.lacralo.org> http://www.lacralo.org

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