[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: The right to forget From: apisan@unam.mx Carlton, Thank you. Then, the point was where I mention, data domain name registration. I hope members are simultaneously LACRALO experts and whois record, personal data protection and representation of users take this in mind when, in these days, discuss the changes to "whois" and the data model of domain name registration. In developing this model again I think we should make the use cases of the At Large to be part of the design of the new "whois". Now that the election is to be one of our priority issues for their intrinsic importance and because I think estdentro of our capabilities and obligations to users for which we watch. How to use general Internet users data domain name registration? qupodemos answer that question?What is the answer "At Large" differentiated from other types of users? Alejandro Pisanty --------------------------- Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Faculty of Chemistry UNAM 3000 University Avenue, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico +52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD SMS +525541444475 +525541444475 FROM MEXICO Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the LinkedIn group UNAM, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ________________________________________ From: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of carlton.samuels @ gmail.com [carlton.samuels @ gmail . com] Posted on: Wednesdays, May 1, 2013 20:50 To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: <whois-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org> , At-Large Worldwide Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] The right to oblivion [[- Translated text (in -> s) -]] Subject: Re: The right to forget From: carlton.samuels @ gmail.com Alejandro: You preguntpor queste matter is of importance in the context of ICANN. Um, for a couple of reasons, primarily surrounding the tuition data directory Service, commonly called the WHOIS. RAA 2013 adds one specification of data withholding connected to the domain name registration, but compels the Secretary to the storage recolecciny a specific set of personal data elements for the duration of the registration of a domain name + 2 additional years after that the domain and not sponsored. This disposition gives due recognition to national laws on personal data privacy. In some states, especially in the EU, there is a significant part of the movement to make the 'right to be forgotten' legal consultation framework to the privacy of personal data. That history helps shed more light on the "right to be forgotten cuestinY, hopefully, reading this, to help us think of the data Travs withholding problems WHOIS about in the context of the RAA 2013, with a higher clarity. Best, -Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 * Strategy, planning, Government, Evaluation and Turnaround * ============================= On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 at 19:27, <apisan@unam.mx> wrote:

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Subject: Re: The right to forget From: apisan@unam.mx

Omar,

I agree with you in principle.

The "right to be forgotten" posed by Viktor Mayer-Schoenberger in his book "Delete" is the practical application that does not seem very different from ARCO rights on personal data protection, and balance with other as the right to information - histrica, for example - and Esten expresinan freedom of working out. Unfortunately this happens far more in the fields of courts and data protection authorities in the community that reflects on Internet.

One point can not be overemphasized is that there are many ways to go around "Oblivion" in its most general terms.Even if they fail to meet orders to clear a given digital copies of information in electronic databases, quedarn stakeholders who have done simple things like screenshots, printouts, or photographs , which may injure someone years later. The underlying policy problem is the ill will, with some of its forms as resentment, envy or revenge.

I have a discrepancy with Omar in that part of his argument blames the victims but again I see it as something alien to the "right to be forgotten" and as part of a more general theme of "understanding Internet", and policy in different angles.

Now, Carlton quviene this mailing list in the ALAC and the LACRALO? in quforma is steve a problem within the scope of ICANN? May apply versions of the "right to forget" to register domain names or the IP address assignment?

Alejandro Pisanty

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________________________________________ From: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [ lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of omar@kaminski.adv.br [omar@kaminski.adv . br] Posted on: Wednesdays, May 1, 2013 19:08 To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: <whois-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org> , Lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org, At-Large Worldwide Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] The right to oblivion

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Subject: Re: The right to forget From: omar@kaminski.adv.br

This right to oblivion estdefendiendo at this time because the children and young people who made a lot of trouble and the silly things online. Then they grow and want others to forget all of what they did.

Anyway, the information may be located anywhere in the world. How clear things locaded servers in different jurisdictions?

Internet has a memory, and I personally do not agree with this "right". Think before, the practice of self-censorship. Avoid silly things or be responsible with the results.

Omar

Carlton Samuels 01/05/2013 <carlton.samuels@gmail.com>

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.....you didn't see me! Who you going to trust? Me or your own two lying eyes?

Erasing facts....and re-writing history. Or, just the hagiograph's payday arrived...

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/29/opinion/keller-erasing-history.html?src=re...

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-Carlton

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