[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: All Latin America From: carlton.samuels@gmail.com Aquestuna version of Google translation of Roosevelt's comments ================================= Hello to all members, It has become difficult not to notice what may be called a demonstration of his power in Latin America. First an attempt to ignore the fact that the English Course is the official language and I'm seeing statements of the working groups that should be done decisin on the language that the group would work in. If the official language of ICANN is the English, it is important that Ingls is used and not a mixture of German, Spanish, French or otherwise, as the words have different meanings and connotations in different idiomas.Esto is important to be consistent. No matter the language, the language uses should not be compromised.You can not understand something like Ingls and then let someone more the comprehension of a differently due to differences of language or interpretation. For example, I'm listening reference to the President, as President, which states that Trasnlation into Spanish for "the President" is "the President ". In English, there is a clear distinction between a President and a President, ascomo there a difference between the "sovereign" and "ms high making organ "of an organization. The highest organ of decisin ms at any organization also estsujeto to rules. He can not even break their own rules and as s a matter of fact, so well that serjuzgado has been able to observe their own rules. First, when I look at the rules of LACRALO, the President refirierrneamente as President. Aques where the corruption of the President begins a word as it moves from president the president, the president.Then, upon taking office, President l starts acting like a president, but if you look at the ROP, the president's role is clearly not a an executive, but the role, a task to perform. Second, the sovereign word has no place in the process democrtico. Democracy is not about sovereignty but more good COOPERATION, dialogue, the collaboration, consultation and consensus. Sovereign connotes arbitrariness, the absolute State, a divine right to rule, etc., while democracy is the rule about people and completely contrary to most popular beliefs, not about the rule of the majority either. This is the rule of the people. In any society, there are many different people. People do not tend to be of one mind.They have diverse interests and at both have to meet, consult, dialogue and follow working with others for the benefit of todos.En any democracy, the minoras, especially, must have a voice and it seems that the LEA, although saying that they ESTN democracy obviously do not understand what the word means. This was demonstrated by Joscomo President of the General Assembly in one of many incidents when is negpreguntas on a mociny declarque the votacinslo is carried out. Next, AFTER THE votacin, someone proceeded seek clarification on what was just voted. That is one in smismo madness and certainly a lack of appreciation for the procedure democrtico as despus to vote, no one should ask for clarification. Everyone should be clear what they are voting before votacin. Therefore, do not support your choice as President of LACRALO and taking into account the dictatorial behavior of the secreted, put doubt on their understanding of democracy.While these people as personalities are very hospitable and friendly, this race to politicize LACRALO unwelcome. As a person who estacostumbrada democrticos the procedures and the process (which is my daily life), which estpor beneath my dignity to participate in any organization in which the elect believe that Regime autocrtico have the simple rules of democrticas procedures are unknown. We're not used to this. Not We are accustomed to people trying to make enforceable decisions demsy affecting trust in its authority rules and comply to do whatever they want. These issues are too simple and I have no intention of participate in meetings where people are not respected and is expected to do what they say. Pay off my childhood more than 40 years ago, not back jams. So my participation in LACRALO sermnimo if there. I can not take the childishness politizacin associated with the LACRALO. Lastly, in the same way that the coefficients of the passes have been applied to ensure that each country has one vote, is the same so that the LA should not hold all elected officials. Is LA & C. It is now only in Los Angeles. The C is missing and I am in through C many of my colleagues have taken the same position including those that went to Costa Rica and therefore, when effects of CR must be greater participation, we are not even been able to achieve this. Therefore, oppose this politizacin of LACRALO and give notice that not to participate is not for lack of interest, but to protest the politizacin. I will sit with you at a party, I sat talk, but not in the meetings of LACRALO to those charged with their progestin understand how to manage in a way democrtica. South Korea Roosevelt O.King Secretary General of the Barbados, the Association of Non Governmental # 10 Garrison, San Miguel Barbados Tel: 247-822-7707 / 254-5815 e-mail: admin@bango.org.bb Network: http://bangoonline.igloocommunities.com ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 * Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround * ============================= On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 5:31 PM, <admin@bango.org.bb> wrote:

Hello to all members,

It has become hard not to notice what may be called a flexing of the Latin American muscle. First an attempt to ignore the fact that English is the official language and I am seeing statements from working groups that a decision is to be made about which language the group would work in. If the official language of ICANN is English, it is important that English is used and not a mixture of German, Spanish, French or otherwise as words have different meanings and connotations in different language. This is important so as to be consistent. It does not matter which language, whichever language is used, it must not be compromised. We cannot be understanding something as English allows and then somebody else understanding it a different way because of language or interpretation differences.

For example, I am hearing reference to the Chairman as President, where it is said that the Spanish translation for "the Chairman" is "el Presidente". In English, there is a clear distinction between a Chairman and a President, just as there is a difference between "sovereign" and the "highest-decision making body" of an organisation. The highest decision making body in any organisation is also subject to rules. It cannot even breach its own rules and as a matter of fact, will be judged on how well it has been able to observe its own rules.

First, when I look at the rules of the LACRALO, the Chairman is erroneously referred to as the President. This is where the corruption of the word Chairman begins as it moves from el presidente the chairman, to President. Then, in assuming office, the chairman begins to act like he is a president, but when you look at the RoP, the role of the chairman is clearly not an executive one, but a role, a task to perform.

Second, the word sovereign has no place in the democratic process. Democracy is not about sovereignty but more about cooperation, dialogue, collaboration, consultations and consensus. Sovereignty connotes arbitrary rule, absolute rule, a divine right to rule, etc. whereas, democracy is about the rule of the people and quite contrary to most popular beliefs, not about the rule of the majority either. It is about the RULE OF THE PEOPLE.

In any society, there are many different people. People are not usually of one mind. They have diverse interests and hence they have to come together, consult, dialogue and continue to work with one another for the benefit of all. In any democracy, minorities especially must have a voice and it would seem that the LAs, even though they are saying democracy, obviously do not understand what the word means. This was demonstrated by Jose as Chair of the GA in one of many incidents, when he refused questions on a motion and declared that only voting will take place. Then after the vote, somebody proceeded to ask for clarifications on what was just voted for. That in itself is madness and certainly a lack of appreciation for democratic procedure, because after voting, nobody should be asking for clarifications. Everybody should be clear about what they are voting for before the vote.

I therefore do not support his election as Chairman of LACRALO and given the dictatorial behaviour of the Secretariat, I question their understanding of democracy. While these people as personalities are quite hospitable and friendly, this rush to politicise LACRALO is not welcomed.

As a person who is accustomed to democratic procedures and process (it is my daily life), it is beneath my dignity to participate in any organisation where the elected think that they have autocratic rule and simple democratic rules of procedures are unknown. We are not accustomed to this. We are not accustomed to people who try to empower themselves to make decisions that will impact others and rely on their authority to flout rules and do as they like.

These matters are too elementary and I have no intention to be participating in meetings where people are not respected and are expected to do what they are told. I left my childhood more that 40 years ago, never to return. Therefore my participation in LACRALO will be very minimal if any. I can't take the childishness associated with the politicisation of LACRALO.

Finally, in the same way that country coefficients have been applied to ensure that each country has only one vote, is the same way that LA should not hold all the elected officers. It is LA & C. Right now it is only LA. The C is missing and I am among the C. many of my colleagues have taken the same position including those that went to CR and therefore, when the aftermath of CR should be more participation, we are not even able to achieve this given.

I therefore object to this politicisation of LACRALO and give notice that not participating is not for lack of interest but in protest of the politicisation. I will sit with you at a party, I will sit and chat, but not at LACRALO meetings until those charged with its management understand how to manage in a democratic manner.

ROK Roosevelt O. King Secretary General Barbados Association of Non Governmental Organisations #10 Garrison, St. Michael Barbados, Caribbean Tel: 247-822-7707 / 254-5815 e-mail: admin@bango.org.bb Network: http://bangoonline.igloocommunities.com

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