[[-- Translated text (es -> en) --]] Sergio, for the fact of one not agreeing with your position, it is not a reason to attack the person who disagrees! In addition to attacking the person and not answering the ideas was Lacralo's biggest problem for many years, which has precisely led to the Mediation situation and it is, precisely, the spirit of mediation, that I refer to in my e-mail, not against anyone or against any country. Only that the main spirit of the Mediation was to offer more countries the opportunity that you or I had. But I remind you, so that you do not say that someone took advantage of anything because it does not make sense, that you or I, as well as various members of Lacralo and other Ralos, have dedicated much of our time and capacity as volunteers for the benefit of the Internet. . And not in our particular interests. First of all, I have held the following positions without any participation from Lacralo: Gac – vice chair – representing the Government of my Country. Board member – twice. One for competition in the selection of nomcom and another that ALAC indicated to me as a liaison. Alac vice chair – selected in the NomcCom competition and then I was proposed to be vice chair SSAC member – at the suggestion of the chair to help organize more open participation of candidates and, to the best of my knowledge, SSAC did not bring its members to ICANN events. Atlas – was like a mentor to me. NOMCOM served me as chair of NOMCOM So I was still always participating in LACRALO and working for its success, most of my participation in ICANN was not disputing positions for LACRALO. I only make it clear, because you have made the reference and it is not correct. I want to clarify that I am not running for the position for the ALAC!!! Nor do I believe that another from Brazil claims it, I just think and maintain the position that the other Mercosur countries, because it is up to us now, should have more opportunity! Of course, many times we had people from Argentina and Brazil in leadership positions at the same time, much more than other countries, but precisely this was answered by the members of the Caribbean and that resulted in the Mediation. I am worried if, to return to have this same concentration! Suggesting that I persecute for nationality or any other cause in our group or in ICANN is completely meaningless and I don't bother to answer because everyone knows me well and also knows my position on this matter. As I had already said, nothing against Marcelo or any other candidate from Argentina, I would like, for example, to have Alberto again in this position, because he has done an excellent job in ALAC earning the respect of all the other RALOS! but I encourage a member from Uruguay or Paraguay to apply for the position!! It is much healthier to have competition for positions. Democracy improves everyone! I hug everyone Vanda Scartezini E-mail: vanda@scartezini.org<mailto:vanda@scartezini.org> Mobile: + 55 11 981811464 Skype: vanda.scartezini From: Sergio Salinas Porto<presidencia@internauta.org.ar> Date: Saturday, 23 April 2022 09:10 To: Vanda Scartezini<vanda@scartezini.org> Cc: lac-discuss-es@icann.org<lac-discuss-es@icann.org> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-en] RECORDED / Candidacy for Alac Member Dear Vanda, it is the first time that I see something like a veto for a country in LACRALO being proposed. I must say that it seems unfair and unserious to raise this. Above all, because whoever objects has held positions uninterruptedly in the region since 2006, without anyone telling him anything, 16 years in a row, a great number of years, right? I think we should have a little respect for our colleagues in the region, especially if you have this history that LACRALO has given you the opportunity to represent us in different places for 16 years (which implies many plane tickets) and not having tried to get other organizations in Brazil to join the rich experience of participating in LACRALO. It is not a good precedent to want to try to block the participation of a member of our region who is active, is in charge of responsibilities, is a member of the board of directors and carries out impeccable work in charge of the communication area, just because he is Argentine. The Argentine Republic contributes to this region Eleven (11) organizations (ALS) that join LACRALO from 2006 onwards, a fact to take into account when discussing these issues. I want to tell you that I am proud as an Argentine to belong and work tirelessly for the users of the Latin American and Caribbean region. I am going to try to explain the situation so that it is better understood and that it does not lead to misunderstandings in the region. Raising this type of doubt is at least dangerous for the stability and institutionality of LACRALO, which took so much time and effort to achieve. I am Vice Secretary of LACRALO and I took office in November 2021, as you know this position does not have or entail any plane ticket or anything like it, just a lot of work and personal and collective commitment so that our region prospers. I will only take over as secretary in November 2023. Carlos Aguirre was proposed as a candidate for ALAC Member (a body other than LACRALO) because no one presented himself to cover the position of the subregion that he had at that time and it was done in accordance with the rules of procedure of our region of which both (you and I) were editors. The hypothesis that candidates from countries overlapped in positions when a subregion did not propose candidates was one of the topics of discussion in the working group, I objected to my doubts to this and it was you precisely who, with the great majority of the members of the The working group convinced me that if this hypothesis were to happen, WE ALL SHOULD UNDERSTAND that it is a fortuitous event, since if a region did not have a candidate another region could present itself and in that case it could happen that in the next election we would again have another candidate from the same region or country as in is the case we are dealing with. This time it is the case that the Mercosur subregion has candidates for ALAC and there are candidates (not like last time). It is necessary to be able to differentiate between LACRALO, NomComm and ALAC, they are different levels. and there may be misunderstandings such as having delegates to the nomcom from Brazil and at the same time an ALAC member from Brazil (it has happened several times), almost the same example as now only from the Brazilian side. Nobody ever objected to anything, not only because it was not appropriate but also because it is normal for that to happen. Synthesis The candidate Marcelo Rodriguez has every right and opportunity to present himself. You cannot be denied the opportunity to present yourself and represent us in ALAC because you are Argentine. The persecution or reproach in their participation of any member of our community due to their nationality, creed or race should not be allowed within the scope of LACRALO. Hope this clears up the misunderstanding. An affectionate greeting from your friend Sergio Sergio Salinas Porto Argentine Internet President - LACRALO/ICANN<https://atlarge.icann.org/ralos/lacralo> Argentine Association of Internet Users<http://www.internauta.org.ar/> /FeTIA<http://www.fetia.org.ar/> FUILAC- Federation of Internet Users of LAC<https://fuilac.org> facebook: salinasporto<http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> twitter: sergiosalinas<http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas> Mobile:+54 9 223 5 215819 "I wish we could be disobedient, every time we receive orders that humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense" Eduardo Galeano On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 4:12 PM, <vanda@scartezini.org<mailto:vanda@scartezini.org> > wrote: [[-- Translated text (en -> es) --]] Dear Sergio, staff and friends of LACRALO Although I have nothing against Marcelo Rodríguez, I would like to raise the following points for consideration: All of our work in the mediation effort was to guarantee a better opportunity for different regions related to leadership positions within LACRALO, as well as different countries and different groups in each region. What we have now is: we had Carlos Aguirre as a member of Alac until the end of this year, it doesn't matter if it wasn't the time for Mercosur, the reality is that he represents Argentina. Sergio will assume a leadership position at the next ICANN Assembly on the same date this year, and he also represents Argentina. As it is time for Mercosur to indicate an ALAC member and this region also encompasses Brazil, Paraguay and Uruguay, I believe that the opportunity to be a member of ALAC will be for one of these countries and not again for Argentina. Nothing against this wonderful country that is Argentina, I have several close friends from there, it is only because the bases of our Mediation effort and its conclusions encourage us to have this rotation between regions, countries and ALS groups. Thanks for your consideration. Vanda Scartezini Email: vanda@scartezini.org <mailto:vanda@scartezini.org><mailto:vanda@scartezini.org<mailto:vanda@scartezini.org> > Mobile: + 55 11 981811464 Skype: vanda.scartezini From: lac-discuss-es <lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > on behalf of claudia ruiz <claudia.ruiz@icann.org<mailto:claudia.ruiz@icann.org> > Date: Thursday, April 21, 2022 6:10 PM To: Sergio Salinas Porto <presidencia@internauta.org.ar<mailto:presidencia@internauta.org.ar> > Cc: lac-discuss-en <lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Subject: [lac-discuss-es] RECORDED / Alac Member Candidacy Dear Sergio, Thank you for your email. Your nomination is registered. Thank you. Best regards, claudia ruiz From: lac-discuss-es <lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > on behalf of Sergio Porto <presidencia@internauta.org.ar<mailto:presidencia@internauta.org.ar> > Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 07:51 To: LACRALO Español <lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Subject: [lac-discuss-es] Candidacy for Alac member Dear friends of the region, I would like to propose our current director of the communications working group, Marcelo Rodríguez, for the position of ALAC Member. Marcelo has shown both inside and outside LACRALO a great commitment and solidarity with Internet users, always putting collective interests before individual ones, his outstanding qualities of seriousness and dedication to the needs of our region make him the natural participant for this place of discussion and work. greetings and hugs Sergio Salinas Porto Argentine Internet President - LACRALO/ICANN [atlarge.icann.org<http://atlarge.icann.org> ] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/atlarge.icann.org/ralos/lacralo__;!!PtGJa...> Argentine Association of Internet Users [internauta.org.ar<http://internauta.org.ar> ] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.internauta.org.ar/__;!!PtGJab4!owH2wuH...> /FeTIA [fetia.org.ar<http://fetia.org.ar> ] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.fetia.org.ar/__;!!PtGJab4!owH2wuHVt7-E...> FUILAC- Federation of Internet Users of LAC [fuilac.org<http://fuilac.org> ] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/fuilac.org__;!!PtGJab4!owH2wuHVt7-EZ_a0dr...> facebook: salinasporto [facebook.com<http://facebook.com> ] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.facebook.com/salinasporto__;!!PtGJab4!...> twitter: sergio salinas [twitter.com<http://twitter.com> ] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/twitter.com/sergiosalinas__;!!PtGJab4!owH2...> Mobile:+54 9 223 5 215819 "I wish we could be disobedient, every time we receive orders that humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense" Eduardo Galeano ________________________________ lac-discuss-es mailing list lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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