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 Asunto: Re: Estamos de acuerdo con Sergio Salinas 
 Desde: apisanty@gmail.com

 Carlton, 


 la línea de asunto tan original de Sergio. 


 Sergio y Christian se oponen a algo que no está en discusión. 


 Capítulo una y nuestros representantes deben votar en la admisión de la abstención 
 que LACRALO no entendía la pregunta lo suficientemente bien como para llegar a una 
 posición. 


 Vamos a hacerlo mejor la próxima vez. 


 Atentamente, 


 Alejandro Pisanty 




 El viernes, 15 de agosto 2014 a las 10:29 AM, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com 
> wrote:
> Dear Vanda:
> FWIW, the subject line is therefore deceptive; you DO NOT agree with
> Sergio.
>
> Carlton
>
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> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:18 AM, <vanda@uol.com.br> wrote:
>
> >
> > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]]
> >
> >  Subject: Re: We agree with Sergio Salinas
> >  From: vanda@uol.com.br
> >
> >  Exactly what I said in the Wiki and yesterday headed to colleagues.
> >  Here in Brazil we .bb.br over 4 -5 years ago, without any
> >  issue. If there are ccTLDs and gTLDs with this alternative does not seem
> > right
> >  not admit that the new also do so.
> >  Hugs all q
> >  Vanda Scartezini
> >  Polo Consultores Associados
> >  Av. Paulista 1159, 1004 cj
> >  01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil
> >  Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253
> >  Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >  On 8/14/14, 19:37, "Alejandro Pisanty" <apisanty@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >  > Sergio,
> >  >
> >  > At the risk of not being understood or not I explain:
> >  >
> >  > So what you're saying is that you do not agree with two gTLDs
> >  > Characters, as they could be .aa, .ab, .ac, etc.
> >  >
> >  > That is not up for discussion right now.
> >  >
> >  > What is being discussed is whether to authorize or two names
> >  > Characters in the second level of some of the new gTLDs as .globo.
> >  > Continuing with this example being of our region, they would like
> >  > Aa.tld, ie aa.globo, ab.globo, ac.globo.
> >  >
> >  > Do you have any problems with ar.globo, br.globo, co.globo, cr.globo,
> >  > Mx.globo, pe.globo, ve.globo, etc.? (In these examples I'm getting
> >  > Combinations of two identical characters ccTLDs currently
> >  > ISO 3166).
> >  >
> >  > I still: do you have a problem with fk.globo?
> >  >
> >  > I still more: imagine - no jump for the political issue - one day
> >  > The Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela changes to ISO 3166 .ve .bv.
> >  > Do you have a problem with that now authorizes the existence of
> bv.globo
> >  > And when change happens the name is no longer available?
> >  >
> >  > Alejandro Pisanty
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > 8/14/2014 17:15 GMT-05: 00 Sergio Salinas Porto <
> >  > Presidencia@internauta.org.ar>:
> >  >
> >  I assumed that it >> would not understand: What I say is that
> plain
> > and simple
> >  Do not >>
> >  I agree >> with NgTLD two characters because it can cause
> >  User >> confusion. I added (and now if I speak of ccTLD) that
> >  Besides >>
> >  >> Is a list of the ISO 3166 alpha-2 -1 indicates a series of
> >  >> Combinations of letters that are intended for ccTLD (some
> >  Used >> others not) and that list should be respected and not be
> >  >> Used for purposes other than for which it was created.
> >  This >> more clear now?
> >  >>
> >  * Sergio Salinas Porto >>
> >  Argentina President Internauta >>
> >  Argentina >> Internet Users Association
> >  >> <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar>
> >  FLUI >> American Federation of Internet Users
> >  >> <http://www.fuilatin.org>
> >  Facebook >>: I salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto
> >
> > &
> >  SergiosalinasII >> <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII>
> >  Twitter >>: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas>
> >  Google+ >> Sergio Salinas Porto
> >  >> <  https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts>
> >  Hangout >>: presidencia@internauta.org.ar
> >  >> <Hangout%3Apresidencia@internauta.org.ar> /
> >  Pixelhub >>: I salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto>
> >  Youtube >>: I salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto>
> >  Skype >>: internautaargentina
> >  Mobi >>: +54 9 223 5 215819 *
> >  >>
> >  * >> "Hopefully we can be disobedient, whenever we received
> > orders
> >  >> Humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo
> >  Galeano * >>
> >  >>
> >  >>
> >  >>
> >  The >> August 14, 2014, 19:20, Dr.Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <
> >  Apisan@unam.mx >>
> >  >>> Wrote:
> >  >>
> >  >>> Sergio,
> >  >>>
> >  >>> Said everything you say, it seems that this position confirms the
> > reading
> >  Of >>
> >  >>> Vanda (which I share):
> >  >>>
> >  >>> What you say and supports Christian Casas seems to refer to FIRST
> >  LEVEL >> at
> >  >>> GTLD.
> >  >>>
> >  >>> The ongoing debate concerns the second level ** **, something kind
> >  Aa.tld >>,
> >  >>> Where aa is any combination of two letters.
> >  >>>
> >  >>> Can you confirm or deny it explicitly?
> >  >>>
> >  >>> Alejandro Pisanty
> >  >>>
> >  >>>
> >  >>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >  >>> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
> >  >>> School of Chemistry UNAM
> >  >>> Av.University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
> >  >>>
> >  >>>
> >  >>>
> >  >>> + 52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD
> >  >>>
> >  >>> SMS +525541444475 +525541444475 FROM MEXICO
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> >  >>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty
> >  >>> ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org
> >  >>>. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
> >  >>>
> >  >>> ________________________________________
> >  >>> From: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [
> >  >>> Lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Sergio
> >  >>> Salinas Porto [presidencia@internauta.org.ar]
> >  >>> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 17:03
> >  >>> To: Vanda Scartezini
> >  >>> CC: Cristian Hernan Casas; LACRALO Spanish
> >  >>> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] We agree with Sergio Salinas
> >  >>>
> >  >>> Dear Vanda:
> >  >>> I'll try to be clear, anyone know (by knowledge or
> >  By >>
> >  >>> Usual) that two characters are used to demarcate the ccTLD.
> >  >>> ICANN Many times (not always tell), are discussing what
> >  That >>
> >  >>> Want to do business, maybe it's time to start thinking about
> >  How come >>
> >  >>> These changes would impact on end users.
> >  >>> We, the end users, who usually know (except
> >  Rare >>
> >  >>> Exceptions, which you name in your example) are three gTLDs
> >  Or >>
> >  More >>
> >  >>> Characters and two-character ccTLD,
> >  >>> A ccTLD default allows us to know which law governs users
> >  About >>
> >  >>> These domains, in terms of rights and obligations and gives us some
> >  Type >>
> >  Of >>
> >  >>> Quiet as to how to manage with regard to this as
> >  >>> Recognize to be clear rules.
> >  >>> The use of two characters in a NgTLD may cause some
> >  >> Kind of
> >  >>> Confusion about this and put an "uncomfortable" place (to
> > call
> >  >>> Somehow) to Internet users.
> >  >>> Table of ISO 3166? 2 -1 indicates that there are certain
> >  Characters >>
> >  >>> That were not used yet, but I believe these can be
> >  >>> Used by countries or new territories at some point and not
> >  Should >>
> >  >>> Be delivered to anyone.
> >  >>> Always remember has changed the world as after the fall of
> >  Wall and >>
> >  >>> As before and also have changed the map of the world, what I
> >  I studied >>
> >  >>> When I was a child is no longer the case and I have seen how
> countries
> >  Called >>
> >  Of >>
> >  >>> Now call a form from another or other countries that formed today
> >  Are >>
> >  >>> Separate and distinct called, so that the table and further
> >  Two >>
> >  >>> Characters must be preserved for what it was created: a standard
> >  >>> International that provides codes for the names of countries and
> >  Other >>
> >  >>> Administrative units to define domain names
> >  Level >>
> >  >>> Geographic superior and not to do business some entrepreneurs
> >  With >>
> >  >>> A little money in their pockets.
> >  >>> I'm clear ... although this is quite complex.
> >  >>> A dear friend hug
> >  >>>
> >  >>>
> >  >>>
> >  >>>
> >  >>>
> >  >>>
> >  >>> * Sergio Salinas Porto
> >  >>> President Internauta Argentina
> >  >>> Argentina Association of Internet Users
> >  >>> <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar>
> >  >>> FLUI American Federation of Internet Users
> >  >>> <http://www.fuilatin.org>
> >  >>> Facebook: I salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto>
> &
> >  >>> SergiosalinasII <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII>
> >  >>> Twitter: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas>
> >  >>> Google+: Sergio Salinas Porto
> >  >>> <  https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts>
> >  >>> Hangout: presidencia@internauta.org.ar
> >  >>> <Hangout%3Apresidencia@internauta.org.ar> /
> >  >>> Pixelhub: I salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto>
> >  >>> Youtube: I salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto>
> >  >>> Skype: internautaargentina
> >  >>> Mobi: +54 9 223 5 215819 *
> >  >>>
> >  >>> * "We hope we can be disobedient, whenever we received orders
> >  >>> Humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo
> >  >>> Galeano *
> >  >>>
> >  >>>
> >  >>>
> >  >>> On August 14, 2014, 18:26, Vanda Scartezini <vanda@uol.com.br>
> >  >>> Wrote:
> >  >>>
> >  >>>> Let me understand. We're talking about according to their names
> >  >> Domain.
> >  >>>> CcTLDs and gTLDs and others are using. As here in Brazil
> >  >> There are,
> >  >>>> For example: @ .... bb.br for banks in Brazil. I do not think
> >  >>> Allow
> >  >>>> Others with relevant negotiations with the owner of the two
> >  >>>> Characters, be different do that already occurs.To deny is to have
> a
> >  Treatment >>
> >  >>>> Miscellaneous in will market who dispute the same market,
> >  That >>
> >  Do not >>
> >  >>>> Seems fair.
> >  >>>> To me this is not the same as having .amazon or .patagonia and if
> >  What >>
> >  >>>> Same as having - and we or even our countries answered
> >  >> -
> >  >>>> Amazon.com or patagonia.com
> >  >>>> It's a matter of being fair and have the same rule to all. Or
> >  My >>
> >  See >>
> >  >>>> Obrigamos all who already use 2 characters ascii cancel
> >  These >>
> >  >>>> Names by level.
> >  >>>> Appreciate if I am convinced of the contrary
> >  >>>> Hugs
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>> Vanda Scartezini
> >  >>>> Polo Consultores Associados
> >  >>>> Av.Paulista 1159, 1004 cj
> >  >>>> 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil
> >  >>>> Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253
> >  >>>> Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>> On 8/12/14, 13:23, "Cristian Casas" <
> > cristiancasas@hotmail.com>
> >  >> Wrote:
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>>> We agree with Sergio Salinas Porto especially the suggestion
> >  That >>
> >  >>> The
> >  >>>>> Vote is negative because on this and other topics
> >  >>>>> Like we have stated several organizations LACRALO
> >  With >>
> >  >>>>> Regarding its relation ngtld and country codes or regions
> >  >>>>> Geographical (cases. Patagonia .amazonas, .cba.y attached for the
> >  Dispute >>
> >  >>> By
> >  >>>>> Misuse of the list of ISO 3166-MA in the case and .gs .fk).
> >  >>>>>
> >  >>>>> Cristian Homes
> >  >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >  >>>>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list
> >  >>>>> Lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org
> >  >>>>>  https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es
> >  >>>>>
> >  >>>>> Http://www.lacralo.org
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>> _______________________________________________
> >  >>>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list
> >  >>>> Lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org
> >  >>>>  https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es
> >  >>>>
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> >  >>>>
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> >  >>>  https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es
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> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > -
> >  > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > >     Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
> > >Facultad de Química UNAM
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