New subject: [lac-discuss-en] We agree with Sergio Salinas

Aug. 15, 2014

      Dear Vanda:
FWIW, the subject line is therefore deceptive; you DO NOT agree with Sergio.

Carlton

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On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:18 AM, <vanda@uol.com.br> wrote:

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>  Subject: Re: We agree with Sergio Salinas
>  From: vanda@uol.com.br
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>  Exactly what I said in the Wiki and yesterday headed to colleagues.
>  Here in Brazil we .bb.br over 4 -5 years ago, without any
>  issue. If there are ccTLDs and gTLDs with this alternative does not seem
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>  not admit that the new also do so.
>  Hugs all q
>  Vanda Scartezini
>  Polo Consultores Associados
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>  On 8/14/14, 19:37, "Alejandro Pisanty" <apisanty@gmail.com>
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>  > Sergio,
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>  > At the risk of not being understood or not I explain:
>  >
>  > So what you're saying is that you do not agree with two gTLDs
>  > Characters, as they could be .aa, .ab, .ac, etc.
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>  > That is not up for discussion right now.
>  >
>  > What is being discussed is whether to authorize or two names
>  > Characters in the second level of some of the new gTLDs as .globo.
>  > Continuing with this example being of our region, they would like
>  > Aa.tld, ie aa.globo, ab.globo, ac.globo.
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>  > Do you have any problems with ar.globo, br.globo, co.globo, cr.globo,
>  > Mx.globo, pe.globo, ve.globo, etc.? (In these examples I'm getting
>  > Combinations of two identical characters ccTLDs currently
>  > ISO 3166).
>  >
>  > I still: do you have a problem with fk.globo?
>  >
>  > I still more: imagine - no jump for the political issue - one day
>  > The Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela changes to ISO 3166 .ve .bv.
>  > Do you have a problem with that now authorizes the existence of bv.globo
>  > And when change happens the name is no longer available?
>  >
>  > Alejandro Pisanty
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>  > 8/14/2014 17:15 GMT-05: 00 Sergio Salinas Porto <
>  > Presidencia@internauta.org.ar>:
>  >
>  I assumed that it >> would not understand: What I say is that plain
> and simple
>  Do not >>
>  I agree >> with NgTLD two characters because it can cause
>  User >> confusion. I added (and now if I speak of ccTLD) that
>  Besides >>
>  >> Is a list of the ISO 3166 alpha-2 -1 indicates a series of
>  >> Combinations of letters that are intended for ccTLD (some
>  Used >> others not) and that list should be respected and not be
>  >> Used for purposes other than for which it was created.
>  This >> more clear now?
>  >>
>  * Sergio Salinas Porto >>
>  Argentina President Internauta >>
>  Argentina >> Internet Users Association
>  >> <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar>
>  FLUI >> American Federation of Internet Users
>  >> <http://www.fuilatin.org>
>  Facebook >>: I salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto>
> &
>  SergiosalinasII >> <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII>
>  Twitter >>: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas>
>  Google+ >> Sergio Salinas Porto
>  >> <  https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts>
>  Hangout >>: presidencia@internauta.org.ar
>  >> <Hangout%3Apresidencia@internauta.org.ar> /
>  Pixelhub >>: I salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto>
>  Youtube >>: I salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto>
>  Skype >>: internautaargentina
>  Mobi >>: +54 9 223 5 215819 *
>  >>
>  * >> "Hopefully we can be disobedient, whenever we received
> orders
>  >> Humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo
>  Galeano * >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  The >> August 14, 2014, 19:20, Dr.Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <
>  Apisan@unam.mx >>
>  >>> Wrote:
>  >>
>  >>> Sergio,
>  >>>
>  >>> Said everything you say, it seems that this position confirms the
> reading
>  Of >>
>  >>> Vanda (which I share):
>  >>>
>  >>> What you say and supports Christian Casas seems to refer to FIRST
>  LEVEL >> at
>  >>> GTLD.
>  >>>
>  >>> The ongoing debate concerns the second level ** **, something kind
>  Aa.tld >>,
>  >>> Where aa is any combination of two letters.
>  >>>
>  >>> Can you confirm or deny it explicitly?
>  >>>
>  >>> Alejandro Pisanty
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>  >>> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
>  >>> School of Chemistry UNAM
>  >>> Av.University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
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>  >>> SMS +525541444475 +525541444475 FROM MEXICO
>  >>> Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com
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>  >>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty
>  >>> ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org
>  >>>. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>  >>>
>  >>> ________________________________________
>  >>> From: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [
>  >>> Lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Sergio
>  >>> Salinas Porto [presidencia@internauta.org.ar]
>  >>> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 17:03
>  >>> To: Vanda Scartezini
>  >>> CC: Cristian Hernan Casas; LACRALO Spanish
>  >>> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] We agree with Sergio Salinas
>  >>>
>  >>> Dear Vanda:
>  >>> I'll try to be clear, anyone know (by knowledge or
>  By >>
>  >>> Usual) that two characters are used to demarcate the ccTLD.
>  >>> ICANN Many times (not always tell), are discussing what
>  That >>
>  >>> Want to do business, maybe it's time to start thinking about
>  How come >>
>  >>> These changes would impact on end users.
>  >>> We, the end users, who usually know (except
>  Rare >>
>  >>> Exceptions, which you name in your example) are three gTLDs
>  Or >>
>  More >>
>  >>> Characters and two-character ccTLD,
>  >>> A ccTLD default allows us to know which law governs users
>  About >>
>  >>> These domains, in terms of rights and obligations and gives us some
>  Type >>
>  Of >>
>  >>> Quiet as to how to manage with regard to this as
>  >>> Recognize to be clear rules.
>  >>> The use of two characters in a NgTLD may cause some
>  >> Kind of
>  >>> Confusion about this and put an "uncomfortable" place (to
> call
>  >>> Somehow) to Internet users.
>  >>> Table of ISO 3166? 2 -1 indicates that there are certain
>  Characters >>
>  >>> That were not used yet, but I believe these can be
>  >>> Used by countries or new territories at some point and not
>  Should >>
>  >>> Be delivered to anyone.
>  >>> Always remember has changed the world as after the fall of
>  Wall and >>
>  >>> As before and also have changed the map of the world, what I
>  I studied >>
>  >>> When I was a child is no longer the case and I have seen how countries
>  Called >>
>  Of >>
>  >>> Now call a form from another or other countries that formed today
>  Are >>
>  >>> Separate and distinct called, so that the table and further
>  Two >>
>  >>> Characters must be preserved for what it was created: a standard
>  >>> International that provides codes for the names of countries and
>  Other >>
>  >>> Administrative units to define domain names
>  Level >>
>  >>> Geographic superior and not to do business some entrepreneurs
>  With >>
>  >>> A little money in their pockets.
>  >>> I'm clear ... although this is quite complex.
>  >>> A dear friend hug
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> * Sergio Salinas Porto
>  >>> President Internauta Argentina
>  >>> Argentina Association of Internet Users
>  >>> <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar>
>  >>> FLUI American Federation of Internet Users
>  >>> <http://www.fuilatin.org>
>  >>> Facebook: I salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> &
>  >>> SergiosalinasII <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII>
>  >>> Twitter: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas>
>  >>> Google+: Sergio Salinas Porto
>  >>> <  https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts>
>  >>> Hangout: presidencia@internauta.org.ar
>  >>> <Hangout%3Apresidencia@internauta.org.ar> /
>  >>> Pixelhub: I salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto>
>  >>> Youtube: I salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto>
>  >>> Skype: internautaargentina
>  >>> Mobi: +54 9 223 5 215819 *
>  >>>
>  >>> * "We hope we can be disobedient, whenever we received orders
>  >>> Humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo
>  >>> Galeano *
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> On August 14, 2014, 18:26, Vanda Scartezini <vanda@uol.com.br>
>  >>> Wrote:
>  >>>
>  >>>> Let me understand. We're talking about according to their names
>  >> Domain.
>  >>>> CcTLDs and gTLDs and others are using. As here in Brazil
>  >> There are,
>  >>>> For example: @ .... bb.br for banks in Brazil. I do not think
>  >>> Allow
>  >>>> Others with relevant negotiations with the owner of the two
>  >>>> Characters, be different do that already occurs.To deny is to have a
>  Treatment >>
>  >>>> Miscellaneous in will market who dispute the same market,
>  That >>
>  Do not >>
>  >>>> Seems fair.
>  >>>> To me this is not the same as having .amazon or .patagonia and if
>  What >>
>  >>>> Same as having - and we or even our countries answered
>  >> -
>  >>>> Amazon.com or patagonia.com
>  >>>> It's a matter of being fair and have the same rule to all. Or
>  My >>
>  See >>
>  >>>> Obrigamos all who already use 2 characters ascii cancel
>  These >>
>  >>>> Names by level.
>  >>>> Appreciate if I am convinced of the contrary
>  >>>> Hugs
>  >>>>
>  >>>> Vanda Scartezini
>  >>>> Polo Consultores Associados
>  >>>> Av.Paulista 1159, 1004 cj
>  >>>> 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil
>  >>>> Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253
>  >>>> Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464
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>  >>>>
>  >>>>
>  >>>>
>  >>>>
>  >>>>
>  >>>>
>  >>>> On 8/12/14, 13:23, "Cristian Casas" <
> cristiancasas@hotmail.com>
>  >> Wrote:
>  >>>>
>  >>>>> We agree with Sergio Salinas Porto especially the suggestion
>  That >>
>  >>> The
>  >>>>> Vote is negative because on this and other topics
>  >>>>> Like we have stated several organizations LACRALO
>  With >>
>  >>>>> Regarding its relation ngtld and country codes or regions
>  >>>>> Geographical (cases. Patagonia .amazonas, .cba.y attached for the
>  Dispute >>
>  >>> By
>  >>>>> Misuse of the list of ISO 3166-MA in the case and .gs .fk).
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> Cristian Homes
>  >>>>> _______________________________________________
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Re: [lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-en] We agree with Sergio Salinas

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