Re: [lac-discuss-es] Alcance y Compromiso SC
[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: Alcance y Compromiso SC De: devtee@gmail.com queridos todos Sólo para corregir algunas de las inexactitudes en las alegaciones de Alberto: - Re: la propuesta CROPP para CROPP FY14 para Suriname, fue enviado a Alberto y Humberto y hubo un intercambio de correos electrónicos en este propuesta. También se discutió sobre las llamadas de conferencia con respecto a la Propuestas Cropp para Haití y República Dominicana. - Re: la propuesta CROPP para Haití, República Dominicana, el CROPP propuesta era, de hecho, la primera presentada ante dos viajeros José Arce y Javier Pallero para ir a Haití y República Dominicana. José y Javier trabajado con Alberto para completar los detalles de la propuesta. Después de Alberto aprobó la propuesta y la propuesta presentada a la CROPP RT, Alberto cambió de opinión y quería poner a otra persona viajero de Colombia (Philippe Boland) en lugar y cambiar el estructura de las propuestas.La primera propuesta fue recordado y tuve de dos llamadas de conferencia con Alberto y Humberto. Ver https://community.icann.org/x/bDbRAg https://community.icann.org/x/gjjRAg La propuesta de Suriname también se discutió en la segunda llamada. Después de más discusiones de correo electrónico que aclaran las propuestas, el resultado final decidieron por Alberto y Humberto era para dos viajeros, Alberto y Sylvia van a Haití y República Dominicana, que fue debidamente presentado nuevamente a CROPP RT. Así que para repetir, se consultó a la presidencia y la secretaría de LACRALO y sus aprobaciones obtenidas antes de cualquier propuesta Cropp se presentaron a la CROPP RT y luego a la ICANN GSE por sus aprobaciones. - Yo no asistí ICANN53 debido a la Gran Al-CROPP, asistí ICANN53 debido a la estrategia de ALC. Saludos cordiales, Dev Anand Teelucksingh El Lun, 11 de enero 2016 a las 8:17 AM, <asoto@ibero-americano.org> escribió:
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Subject: Re: Outreach and Engagement SC From: asoto@ibero-americano.org
Dear Alan, I am forced as President of LACRALO to get in Contact this topic. The insistence of the president of a Subcomitde ALAC (Scope and commitment SC) to make decisions that by law must be taken within LACRALO and ALS participation of its members, forcing me to it. Repeated explanations do not justify that decision. It has been cited comments of Alexander Pisanty YMOS as if they had been Plan approval generated in that consultation subcomitsin previously the document that already contbamos. Both the opinion of Alejandro as ma, were criticisms of such a document. A posteriori despite the wrong procedure, as a sign of goodwill and seeking peace in our region, gave the plan as accepted, despite our tena more specific details on the passes, according to the list I promptly present, and long before this Strategic Plan.The main detail was that must be taken into account as a priority, those countries that have the lower index of penetration of Internet, as a way to begin which requeran greater support and coordinate further action with GSE ICANN. Pedaclaraciones the President of Subcomiten our last meeting monthly; allno only insistien his mistake, but the confirmque Subcomitse part of that people will take over the implementacin of the plan, and in addition they were analyzed alternative program CROPP for its implementation by that Subcommittee. As synthesis of this particular issue: first an ALS presents a project is approved LACRALO consensus on leadership and then sends it to LACRALO CROPP approval to GSE program and beyond. Estn is spewing one attribution does not correspond, despite being pidipor mail and the last monthly meeting that they did not. Insistien also said subcomitestaba formed by members LACRALO, understanding that it mistakenly convalidaba such actions. The LACRALO has signed MOU with ICANN, giving us independence in decisions, to be taken within the scope of our region and in our regulatory scope of discussion, and not within a Subcomitde ALAC, although estintegrado by members of LACRALO. In the links who are listed in the mail below, you can see that the AFRALO similar program was approved by the members of AFRALO 21 September 2015; the APRALO by their leaders on July 3, 2015; he NARALO by Glenn McKnight 4l August 4, 2015; Dev the EURALO Anand Teelucksingh the 29 th September 2015; and also by LACRALO Dev Anand Teelucksingh 15 September 2015. At least for LACRALO is He has taken an attribution that does not belong. In the mail cited by the Chairman of the subcommittee, there are inconsistencies such as mail exchange for the proposed Carlton Samuels to go to Suriname; this one was presented by Dev Anand in Teelucksingh we held a meeting on the issue of Haity Dominica Republic.Was with such urgency that we had no time to present it to LACRALO and we define exceptionally Humberto in that meeting to not miss a CROPP trip. In the previous meeting at the last ICANN meeting in Buenos Aires, cited we agree and published the names of those travel to that meeting. The President of CROPP, Dev Anand Teelucksingh I publicdichos names, but the list omitien his own, since viajcon a vacancy of the program. By safeguarding our decisions, our region, and waiting avoid future problems, you have to apply well to the directive for that Subcommittee.
Best regards
Alberto Soto
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Subject: Re: Outreach and Engagement SC From: devtee@gmail.com
Dear all
Just to clarify repeatedly:
- The call for people to join the commitment divulgaciny SC (O SC & E - https://community.icann.org/x/cqfbAQ)
(Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-July/012871.ht ml) and several people in LACRALO answered the call. The LACRALO Scope SC confirmed the commitment and ideas to the strategy, continuation, This strategy published for comment a list of LACRALO (Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/0134 80.html).
The Nicaraguan comments received were LACRALO list - Alejandro Pisanty -
http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/01351 3.html - Alberto Soto -
http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/01351 5.html
I will answer those comments - Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/01355 9.html - Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/01356 0.html
and the strategy updated based on comments received. By not have no more comments, the strategy was presented in https://community.icann.org/display/croppfy16/LACRALO+Outreach+Strategic+Pla n and members of ALC in divulgaciny commitment trying estn SC to meet that strategy.
One of the activities of the SC O & E is a calendar of events Possible track events at the regional level - the Outreach events calendar LAC ARE http://bitly.com/LAC-Outreach-Calendar If you are aware of the possible events that could be possible in disclosure events, please suggest that Bartlett Morgan bartlett.morgan@gmail.com or what JosArce josefranciscoarce@gmail.com This calendar can be updated.
Anyone in LACRALO ALS any representative who cares by the objectives of Outreach and Engagement SC are more than welcome to join the Outreach and Engagement SC sending an e-mail staff@atlarge.icann.org calls O & E have interpretation espaola given the presence of several people called estn LACRALO.Las open for anyone in At-Large to attend.
Outreach and Engagement SC wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/cqfbAQ Outreach and Engagement SC meetings: https://community.icann.org/x/2Ig3Ag transcripts of meetings. Outreach and Engagement SC Monthly reports:
https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+Subcommittee+on+Outreach+an Engagement d + + + Monthly Reports
It is unfortunate that people not following the estn LACRALO At-Large Working Group activities and therefore do not understand the Activities Working Group. Given that At-Large Working Groups are opportunities to join At-Large, I strongly suggest that At-Large activities of the Working Group is an agenda item of series LACRALO monthly calls in a similar manner to the Upgrading of policies.
Finally, I only to point out regarding Cropp applications, as representative CROPP Review Team and as a member of the then Scope SC, have worked with the Secretariat and chair THIN (Alberto Soto and Humberto Carrasco) and other representatives of LACRALO from the start CROPP. For instance:
- The conference call with Alberto, Sylvia, Humberto, Len, Fįtima, and Juan Rojas (like representative LACRALO CROPP) on April 9, 2014 re: Ideas for the trip Alberto Soto and Sylvia to go Republic Dominican Republic and Haiti https://community.icann.org/x/bDbRAg - The numerous electronic mails between Alberto Soto, Humberto Sylvia travel to the Dominican Republic and Haita from the vague ideas in a practical proposal that may be made under the Cropp guidelines (using 4 slots 5 trips) - The email messages with Alberto and Humberto to confirm CROPP other Carlton Samuels proposal to go to Suriname (using the fifth trip space). - The numerous electronic mails between the proposal and Alberto Soto Alfonso Acosta Diego Bastidas to go to Cuba to make the idea of \u200b\u200ba stumble on a practice that cumplicon CROPP guidelines. - LACRALO notified of the possibility of using the proposals to Cropp attend meetings of ICANN F2F ICANN53 in Buenos Aires, Argentina
(Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-May/012382.htm l) in which several people from LACRALO apply. - Have a call with Alberto Soto and Humberto Carrasco ( https://community.icann.org/x/lok0Aw) LACRALO applications for Alberto Soto and Humberto Carrasco choose Cropp proposals (which was to be sent Sergio Salinas Porto, Jos Salgueiro and Carlton Samuels) to the RT CROPP for travelers to ICANN53 attend.
In all these cases, the chair of LACRALO and the Secretariat were see before the applications were submitted to the ICANN CROPP RT and despusa GSE for their approvals. This has not changed.
Best regards,
Dev Anand Teelucksingh LAC co scope and commitment SC
The sea, December 22, 2015 at 4:05 pm, <asoto@ibero-americano.org> wrote:
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Subject: Outreach and Engagement SC From: asoto@ibero-americano.org
In the last monthly meeting the Chair of the Outreach and Engagement SC, Anand Teelucksingh, explained the workings of such subcomity Plan Strategic LACRALO.
Before that, one of our ALAC Members consultporque me recibiuna task of Dev: take care of a particular country to try capture an organization for subsequent certification as ALS. Le
It is the second time I make this comment. Tenamos generated and tested a Similar plan, but added an order of countries, based on the index of Internet penetration. That is, work with an inclusive character, start Indexes with more low passes and I aslo did.
With this Plan incorporla current ALS Haiti, the country with the lowest index in our region. And also ISOC Dominican Republic.
The Strategic Plan of LACRALO generated by the Outreach and Engagement siguiel not normally trmite of any plan to be approved by consensus. And this does not mean that it is correct, but the procedure It is incorrect.
In addition: The goal of the ALAC Subcomisin on extension and commitment It is developing both a strategy for At-Large to reach new members Potential community outreach, involve members ascomo new and existing. Once this strategy is developed, it will working with its members, the ALAC and RALO to ensure the strategy successfully implemented.
Estdesarrollada strategy, but it has not fulfilled the last paragraph: work with our RALO.
The same subcomitestrealizando the implementacin, which is not applicable, it must do our region.
At some point you asignarviajes by continuing with this program CROPP implementacin. This procedure is incorrect, it is to be treated within our region.ALS first, then approved by LACRALO, then CROPP the Commission of the GSE program and then.
The fact that several members of LACRALO subcomittenga; and either You can enroll at any time, it does not provide authority for the implementacin execution of the program, which must be made within LACRALO.
I ask Dev to make the appropriate changes, and start working in coordination with the leadership of LACRALO.
Best regards
Alberto Soto
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Gracias Dev. Estimados, sugiero que pierdan un poco de tiempo y lean las transcripciones y escuchen los audios, hay cosas muy , pero muy interesantes. Respecto de la propuesta para Surinam, de estas transcripciones se desprende que el día 14 de abril del 2014 aún no había sido presentada, y el evento estaba previsto para el 5 y 6 de Junio del mismo año, es decir no cumplía el plazo de ocho semanas previsto en el programa CROPP. Pedí aclaración de quien presentaba el pedido, y Dev respondió que él lo haría. Igualmente aceptamos con Humberto. También de estos links y de sus documentos agregados, se desprende que para Haití y República Dominicana estaba previsto que viajaran Sebastien Bacholet (por su dominio del francés) y yo propuse a Dev. Este dijo que no podría viajar por razones de no disponibilidad de tiempo, y se consensuó que iría Sylvia Herlen Leite. Luego, como Sebastien no pertenece a nuestra Región, el programa CROPP no permitía su asistencia. Busqué a alguien de nuestra Región y lo encontré, pero no fue aceptado. Dos integrantes se retiraron del grupo de trabajo, y Sylvia propuso que viajara el Presidente de LACRALO, como finalmente se definió. Respecto del viaje de Dev a ICANN Buenos Aires, el mismo nos solicitó a Humberto y a mí la autorización para utilizar una plaza. Al menos yo entendí que era una plaza de otro multistakeholder, pero si nos pedía autorización a nosotros, se convertía en otra plaza para LACRALO. Y Aceptamos. Si no era de LACRALO, no era necesaria nuestra autorización. No voy a volver sobre estos temas, hasta tanto tenga una respuesta del Chair de ALAC. Saludos cordiales -----Mensaje original----- De: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre de devtee@gmail.com Enviado el: miércoles, 20 de enero de 2016 1:57 Para: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Alcance y Compromiso SC [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: Alcance y Compromiso SC De: devtee@gmail.com queridos todos Sólo para corregir algunas de las inexactitudes en las alegaciones de Alberto: - Re: la propuesta CROPP para CROPP FY14 para Suriname, fue enviado a Alberto y Humberto y hubo un intercambio de correos electrónicos en este propuesta. También se discutió sobre las llamadas de conferencia con respecto a la Propuestas Cropp para Haití y República Dominicana. - Re: la propuesta CROPP para Haití, República Dominicana, el CROPP propuesta era, de hecho, la primera presentada ante dos viajeros José Arce y Javier Pallero para ir a Haití y República Dominicana. José y Javier trabajado con Alberto para completar los detalles de la propuesta. Después de Alberto aprobó la propuesta y la propuesta presentada a la CROPP RT, Alberto cambió de opinión y quería poner a otra persona viajero de Colombia (Philippe Boland) en lugar y cambiar el estructura de las propuestas.La primera propuesta fue recordado y tuve de dos llamadas de conferencia con Alberto y Humberto. Ver https://community.icann.org/x/bDbRAg https://community.icann.org/x/gjjRAg La propuesta de Suriname también se discutió en la segunda llamada. Después de más discusiones de correo electrónico que aclaran las propuestas, el resultado final decidieron por Alberto y Humberto era para dos viajeros, Alberto y Sylvia van a Haití y República Dominicana, que fue debidamente presentado nuevamente a CROPP RT. Así que para repetir, se consultó a la presidencia y la secretaría de LACRALO y sus aprobaciones obtenidas antes de cualquier propuesta Cropp se presentaron a la CROPP RT y luego a la ICANN GSE por sus aprobaciones. - Yo no asistí ICANN53 debido a la Gran Al-CROPP, asistí ICANN53 debido a la estrategia de ALC. Saludos cordiales, Dev Anand Teelucksingh El Lun, 11 de enero 2016 a las 8:17 AM, <asoto@ibero-americano.org> escribió:
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Subject: Re: Outreach and Engagement SC From: asoto@ibero-americano.org
Dear Alan, I am forced as President of LACRALO to get in Contact this topic. The insistence of the president of a Subcomitde ALAC (Scope and
commitment
SC) to make decisions that by law must be taken within LACRALO and ALS participation of its members, forcing me to it. Repeated explanations do not justify that decision. It has been cited comments of Alexander Pisanty YMOS as if they had been Plan approval generated in that consultation subcomitsin previously the document that already contbamos. Both the opinion of Alejandro as ma, were criticisms of such a document. A posteriori despite the wrong procedure, as a sign of goodwill and seeking peace in our region, gave the plan as accepted, despite our tena more specific details on the passes, according to the list I promptly present, and long before this Strategic Plan.The main detail was that must be taken into account as a priority, those countries that have the lower index of penetration of Internet, as a way to begin which requeran greater support and coordinate further action with GSE ICANN. Pedaclaraciones the President of Subcomiten our last meeting monthly; allno only insistien his mistake, but the confirmque Subcomitse part of that people will take over the implementacin of the plan, and in addition they were analyzed alternative program CROPP for its implementation by that Subcommittee. As synthesis of this particular issue: first an ALS presents a project is approved LACRALO consensus on leadership and then sends it to LACRALO CROPP approval to GSE program and beyond. Estn is spewing one attribution does not correspond, despite being pidipor mail and the last monthly meeting that they did not. Insistien also said subcomitestaba formed by members LACRALO, understanding that it mistakenly convalidaba such actions. The LACRALO has signed MOU with ICANN, giving us independence in decisions, to be taken within the scope of our region and in our regulatory scope of discussion, and not within a Subcomitde ALAC, although estintegrado by members of LACRALO. In the links who are listed in the mail below, you can see that the AFRALO similar program was approved by the members of AFRALO 21 September 2015; the APRALO by their leaders on July 3, 2015; he NARALO by Glenn McKnight 4l August 4, 2015; Dev the EURALO Anand Teelucksingh the 29 th September 2015; and also by LACRALO Dev Anand Teelucksingh 15 September 2015. At least for LACRALO is He has taken an attribution that does not belong. In the mail cited by the Chairman of the subcommittee, there are inconsistencies such as mail exchange for the proposed Carlton Samuels to go to Suriname; this one was presented by Dev Anand in Teelucksingh we held a meeting on the issue of Haity Dominica Republic.Was with such urgency that we had no time to present it to LACRALO and we define exceptionally Humberto in that meeting to not miss a CROPP trip. In the previous meeting at the last ICANN meeting in Buenos Aires, cited we agree and published the names of those travel to that meeting. The President of CROPP, Dev Anand Teelucksingh I publicdichos names, but the list omitien his own, since viajcon a vacancy of the program. By safeguarding our decisions, our region, and waiting avoid future problems, you have to apply well to the directive for that Subcommittee.
Best regards
Alberto Soto
-----Original message----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On behalf of devtee@gmail.com Posted on: Sunday, January 10, 2016 20:36 To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Outreach and Engagement SC
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Subject: Re: Outreach and Engagement SC From: devtee@gmail.com
Dear all
Just to clarify repeatedly:
- The call for people to join the commitment divulgaciny SC (O SC & E - https://community.icann.org/x/cqfbAQ)
(Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-July/012871.ht
ml) and several people in LACRALO answered the call. The LACRALO Scope SC confirmed the commitment and ideas to the strategy, continuation, This strategy published for comment a list of LACRALO
(Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/0134
80.html).
The Nicaraguan comments received were LACRALO list - Alejandro Pisanty -
http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/01351
3.html - Alberto Soto -
http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/01351
5.html
I will answer those comments -
Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/01355
9.html -
Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/01356
0.html
and the strategy updated based on comments received. By not have no more comments, the strategy was presented in
https://community.icann.org/display/croppfy16/LACRALO+Outreach+Strategic+Pla
n and members of ALC in divulgaciny commitment trying estn SC to meet that strategy.
One of the activities of the SC O & E is a calendar of events Possible track events at the regional level - the Outreach events calendar LAC ARE http://bitly.com/LAC-Outreach-Calendar If you are aware of the possible events that could be possible in disclosure events, please suggest that Bartlett Morgan bartlett.morgan@gmail.com or what JosArce josefranciscoarce@gmail.com This calendar can be updated.
Anyone in LACRALO ALS any representative who cares by the objectives of Outreach and Engagement SC are more than welcome to join the Outreach and Engagement SC sending an e-mail staff@atlarge.icann.org calls O & E have interpretation espaola given the presence of several people called estn LACRALO.Las open for anyone in At-Large to attend.
Outreach and Engagement SC wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/cqfbAQ Outreach and Engagement SC meetings: https://community.icann.org/x/2Ig3Ag transcripts of meetings. Outreach and Engagement SC Monthly reports:
https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+Subcommittee+on+Outreach+an
Engagement d + + + Monthly Reports
It is unfortunate that people not following the estn LACRALO At-Large Working Group activities and therefore do not understand the Activities Working Group. Given that At-Large Working Groups are opportunities to join At-Large, I strongly suggest that At-Large activities of the Working Group is an agenda item of series LACRALO monthly calls in a similar manner to the Upgrading of policies.
Finally, I only to point out regarding Cropp applications, as representative CROPP Review Team and as a member of the then Scope SC, have worked with the Secretariat and chair THIN (Alberto Soto and Humberto Carrasco) and other representatives of LACRALO from the start CROPP. For instance:
- The conference call with Alberto, Sylvia, Humberto, Len, Fįtima, and Juan Rojas (like representative LACRALO CROPP) on April 9, 2014 re: Ideas for the trip Alberto Soto and Sylvia to go Republic Dominican Republic and Haiti https://community.icann.org/x/bDbRAg - The numerous electronic mails between Alberto Soto, Humberto Sylvia travel to the Dominican Republic and Haita from the vague ideas in a practical proposal that may be made under the Cropp guidelines (using 4 slots 5 trips) - The email messages with Alberto and Humberto to confirm CROPP other Carlton Samuels proposal to go to Suriname (using the fifth trip space). - The numerous electronic mails between the proposal and Alberto Soto Alfonso Acosta Diego Bastidas to go to Cuba to make the idea of \u200b\u200ba stumble on a practice that cumplicon CROPP guidelines. - LACRALO notified of the possibility of using the proposals to Cropp attend meetings of ICANN F2F ICANN53 in Buenos Aires, Argentina
(Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-May/012382.htm
l) in which several people from LACRALO apply. - Have a call with Alberto Soto and Humberto Carrasco ( https://community.icann.org/x/lok0Aw) LACRALO applications for Alberto Soto and Humberto Carrasco choose Cropp proposals (which was to be sent Sergio Salinas Porto, Jos Salgueiro and Carlton Samuels) to the RT CROPP for travelers to ICANN53 attend.
In all these cases, the chair of LACRALO and the Secretariat were see before the applications were submitted to the ICANN CROPP RT and despusa GSE for their approvals. This has not changed.
Best regards,
Dev Anand Teelucksingh LAC co scope and commitment SC
The sea, December 22, 2015 at 4:05 pm, <asoto@ibero-americano.org> wrote:
[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]]
Subject: Outreach and Engagement SC From: asoto@ibero-americano.org
In the last monthly meeting the Chair of the Outreach and Engagement SC, Anand Teelucksingh, explained the workings of such subcomity Plan Strategic LACRALO.
Before that, one of our ALAC Members consultporque me recibiuna task of Dev: take care of a particular country to try capture an organization for subsequent certification as ALS. Le
It is the second time I make this comment. Tenamos generated and tested
a
Similar plan, but added an order of countries, based on the index of Internet penetration. That is, work with an inclusive character, start Indexes with more low passes and I aslo did.
With this Plan incorporla current ALS Haiti, the country with the lowest index in our region. And also ISOC Dominican Republic.
The Strategic Plan of LACRALO generated by the Outreach and Engagement siguiel not normally trmite of any plan to be approved by consensus. And this does not mean that it is correct, but the procedure It is incorrect.
In addition: The goal of the ALAC Subcomisin on extension and commitment It is developing both a strategy for At-Large to reach new members Potential community outreach, involve members ascomo new and existing. Once this strategy is developed, it will working with its members, the ALAC and RALO to ensure the strategy successfully implemented.
Estdesarrollada strategy, but it has not fulfilled the last paragraph: work with our RALO.
The same subcomitestrealizando the implementacin, which is not applicable, it must do our region.
At some point you asignarviajes by continuing with this program CROPP implementacin. This procedure is incorrect, it is to be treated within our region.ALS first, then approved by LACRALO, then CROPP the Commission of the GSE program and then.
The fact that several members of LACRALO subcomittenga; and either You can enroll at any time, it does not provide authority for the implementacin execution of the program, which must be made within LACRALO.
I ask Dev to make the appropriate changes, and start working in coordination with the leadership of LACRALO.
Best regards
Alberto Soto
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Estimados, Lo que relata Alberto es lo que ocurrió. Saludos Enviado desde mi iPhone
El 20-01-2016, a las 11:50 a.m., Alberto Soto <asoto@ibero-americano.org> escribió:
Gracias Dev. Estimados, sugiero que pierdan un poco de tiempo y lean las transcripciones y escuchen los audios, hay cosas muy , pero muy interesantes. Respecto de la propuesta para Surinam, de estas transcripciones se desprende que el día 14 de abril del 2014 aún no había sido presentada, y el evento estaba previsto para el 5 y 6 de Junio del mismo año, es decir no cumplía el plazo de ocho semanas previsto en el programa CROPP. Pedí aclaración de quien presentaba el pedido, y Dev respondió que él lo haría. Igualmente aceptamos con Humberto.
También de estos links y de sus documentos agregados, se desprende que para Haití y República Dominicana estaba previsto que viajaran Sebastien Bacholet (por su dominio del francés) y yo propuse a Dev. Este dijo que no podría viajar por razones de no disponibilidad de tiempo, y se consensuó que iría Sylvia Herlen Leite. Luego, como Sebastien no pertenece a nuestra Región, el programa CROPP no permitía su asistencia. Busqué a alguien de nuestra Región y lo encontré, pero no fue aceptado. Dos integrantes se retiraron del grupo de trabajo, y Sylvia propuso que viajara el Presidente de LACRALO, como finalmente se definió. Respecto del viaje de Dev a ICANN Buenos Aires, el mismo nos solicitó a Humberto y a mí la autorización para utilizar una plaza. Al menos yo entendí que era una plaza de otro multistakeholder, pero si nos pedía autorización a nosotros, se convertía en otra plaza para LACRALO. Y Aceptamos. Si no era de LACRALO, no era necesaria nuestra autorización.
No voy a volver sobre estos temas, hasta tanto tenga una respuesta del Chair de ALAC.
Saludos cordiales
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Asunto: Re: Alcance y Compromiso SC De: devtee@gmail.com
queridos todos
Sólo para corregir algunas de las inexactitudes en las alegaciones de Alberto:
- Re: la propuesta CROPP para CROPP FY14 para Suriname, fue enviado a Alberto y Humberto y hubo un intercambio de correos electrónicos en este propuesta. También se discutió sobre las llamadas de conferencia con respecto a la Propuestas Cropp para Haití y República Dominicana.
- Re: la propuesta CROPP para Haití, República Dominicana, el CROPP propuesta era, de hecho, la primera presentada ante dos viajeros José Arce y Javier Pallero para ir a Haití y República Dominicana. José y Javier trabajado con Alberto para completar los detalles de la propuesta.
Después de Alberto aprobó la propuesta y la propuesta presentada a la CROPP RT, Alberto cambió de opinión y quería poner a otra persona viajero de Colombia (Philippe Boland) en lugar y cambiar el estructura de las propuestas.La primera propuesta fue recordado y tuve de dos llamadas de conferencia con Alberto y Humberto. Ver https://community.icann.org/x/bDbRAg https://community.icann.org/x/gjjRAg La propuesta de Suriname también se discutió en la segunda llamada. Después de más discusiones de correo electrónico que aclaran las propuestas, el resultado final decidieron por Alberto y Humberto era para dos viajeros, Alberto y Sylvia van a Haití y República Dominicana, que fue debidamente presentado nuevamente a CROPP RT.
Así que para repetir, se consultó a la presidencia y la secretaría de LACRALO y sus aprobaciones obtenidas antes de cualquier propuesta Cropp se presentaron a la CROPP RT y luego a la ICANN GSE por sus aprobaciones.
- Yo no asistí ICANN53 debido a la Gran Al-CROPP, asistí ICANN53 debido a la estrategia de ALC.
Saludos cordiales,
Dev Anand Teelucksingh
El Lun, 11 de enero 2016 a las 8:17 AM, <asoto@ibero-americano.org> escribió:
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Subject: Re: Outreach and Engagement SC From: asoto@ibero-americano.org
Dear Alan, I am forced as President of LACRALO to get in Contact this topic. The insistence of the president of a Subcomitde ALAC (Scope and
commitment
SC) to make decisions that by law must be taken within LACRALO and ALS participation of its members, forcing me to it. Repeated explanations do not justify that decision. It has been cited comments of Alexander Pisanty YMOS as if they had been Plan approval generated in that consultation subcomitsin previously the document that already contbamos. Both the opinion of Alejandro as ma, were criticisms of such a document. A posteriori despite the wrong procedure, as a sign of goodwill and seeking peace in our region, gave the plan as accepted, despite our tena more specific details on the passes, according to the list I promptly present, and long before this Strategic Plan.The main detail was that must be taken into account as a priority, those countries that have the lower index of penetration of Internet, as a way to begin which requeran greater support and coordinate further action with GSE ICANN. Pedaclaraciones the President of Subcomiten our last meeting monthly; allno only insistien his mistake, but the confirmque Subcomitse part of that people will take over the implementacin of the plan, and in addition they were analyzed alternative program CROPP for its implementation by that Subcommittee. As synthesis of this particular issue: first an ALS presents a project is approved LACRALO consensus on leadership and then sends it to LACRALO CROPP approval to GSE program and beyond. Estn is spewing one attribution does not correspond, despite being pidipor mail and the last monthly meeting that they did not. Insistien also said subcomitestaba formed by members LACRALO, understanding that it mistakenly convalidaba such actions. The LACRALO has signed MOU with ICANN, giving us independence in decisions, to be taken within the scope of our region and in our regulatory scope of discussion, and not within a Subcomitde ALAC, although estintegrado by members of LACRALO. In the links who are listed in the mail below, you can see that the AFRALO similar program was approved by the members of AFRALO 21 September 2015; the APRALO by their leaders on July 3, 2015; he NARALO by Glenn McKnight 4l August 4, 2015; Dev the EURALO Anand Teelucksingh the 29 th September 2015; and also by LACRALO Dev Anand Teelucksingh 15 September 2015. At least for LACRALO is He has taken an attribution that does not belong. In the mail cited by the Chairman of the subcommittee, there are inconsistencies such as mail exchange for the proposed Carlton Samuels to go to Suriname; this one was presented by Dev Anand in Teelucksingh we held a meeting on the issue of Haity Dominica Republic.Was with such urgency that we had no time to present it to LACRALO and we define exceptionally Humberto in that meeting to not miss a CROPP trip. In the previous meeting at the last ICANN meeting in Buenos Aires, cited we agree and published the names of those travel to that meeting. The President of CROPP, Dev Anand Teelucksingh I publicdichos names, but the list omitien his own, since viajcon a vacancy of the program. By safeguarding our decisions, our region, and waiting avoid future problems, you have to apply well to the directive for that Subcommittee.
Best regards
Alberto Soto
-----Original message----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On behalf of devtee@gmail.com Posted on: Sunday, January 10, 2016 20:36 To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Outreach and Engagement SC
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Subject: Re: Outreach and Engagement SC From: devtee@gmail.com
Dear all
Just to clarify repeatedly:
- The call for people to join the commitment divulgaciny SC (O SC & E - https://community.icann.org/x/cqfbAQ) (Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-July/012871.ht ml) and several people in LACRALO answered the call. The LACRALO Scope SC confirmed the commitment and ideas to the strategy, continuation, This strategy published for comment a list of LACRALO (Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/0134 80.html).
The Nicaraguan comments received were LACRALO list - Alejandro Pisanty - http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/01351 3.html - Alberto Soto - http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/01351 5.html
I will answer those comments - Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/01355 9.html - Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/01356 0.html
and the strategy updated based on comments received. By not have no more comments, the strategy was presented in https://community.icann.org/display/croppfy16/LACRALO+Outreach+Strategic+Pla n and members of ALC in divulgaciny commitment trying estn SC to meet that strategy.
One of the activities of the SC O & E is a calendar of events Possible track events at the regional level - the Outreach events calendar LAC ARE http://bitly.com/LAC-Outreach-Calendar If you are aware of the possible events that could be possible in disclosure events, please suggest that Bartlett Morgan bartlett.morgan@gmail.com or what JosArce josefranciscoarce@gmail.com This calendar can be updated.
Anyone in LACRALO ALS any representative who cares by the objectives of Outreach and Engagement SC are more than welcome to join the Outreach and Engagement SC sending an e-mail staff@atlarge.icann.org calls O & E have interpretation espaola given the presence of several people called estn LACRALO.Las open for anyone in At-Large to attend.
Outreach and Engagement SC wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/cqfbAQ Outreach and Engagement SC meetings: https://community.icann.org/x/2Ig3Ag transcripts of meetings. Outreach and Engagement SC Monthly reports: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+Subcommittee+on+Outreach+an Engagement d + + + Monthly Reports
It is unfortunate that people not following the estn LACRALO At-Large Working Group activities and therefore do not understand the Activities Working Group. Given that At-Large Working Groups are opportunities to join At-Large, I strongly suggest that At-Large activities of the Working Group is an agenda item of series LACRALO monthly calls in a similar manner to the Upgrading of policies.
Finally, I only to point out regarding Cropp applications, as representative CROPP Review Team and as a member of the then Scope SC, have worked with the Secretariat and chair THIN (Alberto Soto and Humberto Carrasco) and other representatives of LACRALO from the start CROPP. For instance:
- The conference call with Alberto, Sylvia, Humberto, Len, Fįtima, and Juan Rojas (like representative LACRALO CROPP) on April 9, 2014 re: Ideas for the trip Alberto Soto and Sylvia to go Republic Dominican Republic and Haiti https://community.icann.org/x/bDbRAg - The numerous electronic mails between Alberto Soto, Humberto Sylvia travel to the Dominican Republic and Haita from the vague ideas in a practical proposal that may be made under the Cropp guidelines (using 4 slots 5 trips) - The email messages with Alberto and Humberto to confirm CROPP other Carlton Samuels proposal to go to Suriname (using the fifth trip space). - The numerous electronic mails between the proposal and Alberto Soto Alfonso Acosta Diego Bastidas to go to Cuba to make the idea of \u200b\u200ba stumble on a practice that cumplicon CROPP guidelines. - LACRALO notified of the possibility of using the proposals to Cropp attend meetings of ICANN F2F ICANN53 in Buenos Aires, Argentina (Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-May/012382.htm l) in which several people from LACRALO apply. - Have a call with Alberto Soto and Humberto Carrasco ( https://community.icann.org/x/lok0Aw) LACRALO applications for Alberto Soto and Humberto Carrasco choose Cropp proposals (which was to be sent Sergio Salinas Porto, Jos Salgueiro and Carlton Samuels) to the RT CROPP for travelers to ICANN53 attend.
In all these cases, the chair of LACRALO and the Secretariat were see before the applications were submitted to the ICANN CROPP RT and despusa GSE for their approvals. This has not changed.
Best regards,
Dev Anand Teelucksingh LAC co scope and commitment SC
The sea, December 22, 2015 at 4:05 pm, <asoto@ibero-americano.org> wrote:
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Subject: Outreach and Engagement SC From: asoto@ibero-americano.org
In the last monthly meeting the Chair of the Outreach and Engagement SC, Anand Teelucksingh, explained the workings of such subcomity Plan Strategic LACRALO.
Before that, one of our ALAC Members consultporque me recibiuna task of Dev: take care of a particular country to try capture an organization for subsequent certification as ALS. Le
It is the second time I make this comment. Tenamos generated and tested
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Similar plan, but added an order of countries, based on the index of Internet penetration. That is, work with an inclusive character, start Indexes with more low passes and I aslo did.
With this Plan incorporla current ALS Haiti, the country with the lowest index in our region. And also ISOC Dominican Republic.
The Strategic Plan of LACRALO generated by the Outreach and Engagement siguiel not normally trmite of any plan to be approved by consensus. And this does not mean that it is correct, but the procedure It is incorrect.
In addition: The goal of the ALAC Subcomisin on extension and commitment It is developing both a strategy for At-Large to reach new members Potential community outreach, involve members ascomo new and existing. Once this strategy is developed, it will working with its members, the ALAC and RALO to ensure the strategy successfully implemented.
Estdesarrollada strategy, but it has not fulfilled the last paragraph: work with our RALO.
The same subcomitestrealizando the implementacin, which is not applicable, it must do our region.
At some point you asignarviajes by continuing with this program CROPP implementacin. This procedure is incorrect, it is to be treated within our region.ALS first, then approved by LACRALO, then CROPP the Commission of the GSE program and then.
The fact that several members of LACRALO subcomittenga; and either You can enroll at any time, it does not provide authority for the implementacin execution of the program, which must be made within LACRALO.
I ask Dev to make the appropriate changes, and start working in coordination with the leadership of LACRALO.
Best regards
Alberto Soto
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